FNAF Secret of the Mimic

0:10 Hello and welcome to Plug In for player Four. I am your host executive, Ethan. This is manager Mark. This is manager Mark. What am I? Business bus boy Brandon. No, no, You're businessman, Brandon. What do you mean? Businessman Brandon. OK, that that that's. Fine. We call you BB for short. MMM. Now you're demoted to self checkout clerk. Have fun. What beep beep? You did it wrong. What the fuck you demoted? Throw the potato. Sir, I think you double skinned this son of a bitch. What? The fuck was that, you son of a bitch?

0:56 Bitch.

1:00 I told you guys before we started recording, I can do pretty good voices. Not 5 minutes ago he was doing the My muscle man, my ma. It's so good. I'm going to have a fucking headache.

1:17 Good. Anyway, what have we been up to recently? Void Crew. Yes. Void Crew, More Atlas trials. I just put void crew on my wish list. Fuck. You. I'm going to buy a sand dude. It's fun. Me. You. Gunners. That's what I we're going to be Gunners. You Gunners? Yes, yes. I could use another gunner, I do pretty. Well, we need more Dhaka.

1:45 I'm an engineer running around like a chicken with its head cut off underneath the ship. Oh God, I feel bad every time he's got to get out of the ship while I'm firing at shit. Isn't there also like an exploration aspect? So kinda, yeah, kinda you, you could do Eva type stuff like there's objectives where you have to get out of the ship. OK. And into a facility for oh that's. A pizza sorry for for my mom, my mom. But yeah, no, you have to get outside the ship, go to into different facilities that do objectives like collect data and stuff.

2:23 Or for me as an engineer, I have to get out into the hull and pair hull breaches while we're under fire. And the game sometimes, like, oh, personnel lock, let's lock onto this lowly engineer outside the ship. Yeah. So I'm carrying behind Brandon's guns and I'm like, Brandon, save me. Yeah, your toolbox. Over your shoulder wrenching hand, you're just like must fix. Oh, and you you can burn to death from the thrusters. There's two that's awesome. So you have to watch. And you also got to be careful on how you know you open the airlock and.

3:00 Because you can shut the atmosphere for the ship too. Like literally it is pretty detailed. It's a detailed. That's awesome actually. It's so fucking fun. Dude. That I'm dealing with electrical problems where it's like if I hit the wrong key I get shocked. Oh, Jesus. OK, freaking out inside the ship will pray it's like. Oh, it's fucking fun. Jack's piloting, he's having a good time, he's getting out, doing Eva stuff and I'm just trying to keep the ship alive and. Still blue sky, please do this. Exactly.

3:36 I'm loading up the Bissell pod for Jack to use in the pilot's seat. I'm trying to keep Braden's battery swapped. I'm trying to deal with electrical problems and hull breaches. I'm trying to keep the engine trim from the fucking ruining our engine capabilities. I'm trying to keep thrusters charge. I'm being a fucking busy Molly downer to the ship. It's it can be a little overwhelming, yeah, but like for me. No, that sounds like what Mark was just describing. That sounds like fun. Yes, it is like there's times where I've got to swap my battery myself because he just doesn't have time.

4:12 Yeah, you know, so I got to get out real quick. We're getting fired on fucking ships. Lighten up, Red and shit. You know, I think you'd have a good time with. Her, you'd have a great time. See the rogue like aspect? I'm like, that speaks to me, yes. That's why I was telling Brandon to Jacob like Ethan would fucking love this game because it's if it's so many different archetypes that he just likes. It's also funny when at least I think it's funny when the one time we lost. So you get like an outside view of the ship and it's like sitting there.

4:45 And so that's just funny as fuck. And then we get talked about on the news when we get back to the hub. That's awesome. These guys suck, yes. It does happen, quite literally. They they say we suck like I'm not bullshitting. That's awesome. And that's a. Miracle that three people can somehow figure out how to work a spaceship together in a matter of minutes. Oh. That, that, that talking shit. It's so good you would have fun. All right, maybe we're no now, maybe we are playing this tonight. Fuck your calm down guys.

5:27 Sorry. I should convince someone to get it now. Yeah, it's. It's like 6. It is. Yes, it goes up to six players. It does, yeah.

5:37 I saw we can do allergic ship type now.

5:42 His face. I love this cake. I do. Man if you could see his face like jump scare on the screen or something Oh my God. Yeah, you look like a fucking blow up though. What? Do we? His jaw drops. It's like the the mask or the the the jaw drops to the floor and the tongue rolls out.

6:09 I just pop out of his head with the oh kiss out Salitha.

6:17 What were you doing before I die?

6:21 I I have been playing Secret of the Mimic and oh boy do I have a lot to talk about this game, both good and bad. A liar. I I wouldn't say so. I heard that. Did you hear that? Did. It feel good though. Yeah, it didn't hurt. That's good. You have to be careful man. You're pushing 30. No, fuck you. It's OK Mr. Grams, you're almost to your view. They have been playing Secret of the Mimic and yes, initially it was a lot of bad, but I've actually like kind of come around on it. Not fully. There's still parts of it where it's just.

6:58 This is sounding a lot like hostage syndrome. No, not really. No, I actually, I actually enjoy what the game did. Like now that I've 'cause this is going to be a major spoiler episode because this is going to be all about Secret of the Mimic, I really want to talk about this game. So if you guys don't want spoilers, now is the time to kind of back out. Yeah, this is This episode is going to be all spoilers. But you know, it's almost been out for a year. It will be a year in June. Fair. I thought it was six months, really a year.

7:29 It's gonna in June. Oh, in June. OK, so it's been. Six months now, OK. Wait a minute. Wait a minute, wait a mimic. I mean it's funny when like you initially start the game, shut the fuck up when you initially. Like you get by. When you initially start the game, you get inside the building, you know, and they're all like, now it's time to explore. Like, you're ready. Like, yeah, it's like it's time to open the door. That's just how this game is going to be. Like the power shuts down and everything.

8:09 It's like, oh great, that's how this game is going to be. I will. Pull up on the classic tropes. I will say I do love how they kind of use animatronics, what they were meant to be for, not just for scary stuff in this game. Yeah, like they use animatronics to be like, oh, yeah, this one plays the drums. This one, you know, they all move dancing, whatever. Like, Yeah, even like the what? Miss Helpful or whatever her name is Miss Helper. So there's miss. So Miss Helpful and Mr. Helpful. Yeah, I mean either of them, but like especially miss helpful like they're just like moving around talking like hey, you stick your data diver and then like talk to them with whatever permissions you have and they're like, hey, I see you're a security personnel, you should help with customer relations and all that kind of stuff while we try to fix the elevator.

9:11 I just want to put it out. I like the one at the end of the game that I've seen you replay multiple times trying to complete the game. I've done 6 playthroughs so far. I like just at the end where he's like, yeah, let's run through the statistics. Yeah, project over.

9:30 You have. Over 11 missed lone people. You have 22 court summons only, 22 only. Don't worry, you got this. Don't lose hope. Yeah, I kind of want to go like through the game from like the start to the end, though, like just to have like a linear progression, like, I mean like so far. What are your thoughts on this guy's? I mean especially you Mark, you haven't, I assume you haven't like really seen much or. I've I've seen you play through parts of it. I've seen you speed. Run it, yes. And speed run loosely because there's like 40 minute speed run.

10:08 So I've seen yeah, yeah. But like, I've like speed ran out of the game was intended to be played, Yeah, in like 2 1/2 hours, yeah. Yeah, it's pretty. It's pretty short, Yeah. Which originally I wasn't like too big of a fan of because like, oh, it's short. Like, yeah, this game is $40. It's you know, if you if you literally just if, if you know what you're doing and you play the game as intended, you can literally get through this game like two 2 1/2 hours depending on the ending. It's like yes, 40 bucks.

10:35 I play for two hours. But you're really not because you're still exploring the mechanics, exploring the area, you know, you don't know where to go. It's like we're like, how to deal with the mimic just yet. Like you, you're still figuring everything out. Yeah. So you're you're. While collecting any collectibles or listening to any audio tapes or whatever, reading the mail as you go along the way? Yeah. Yeah, I, I want to say as somebody who's not really played the games, but I'm kind of familiar with the progression of how the games evolved over time.

11:10 Yes, I'm, I'm very confused on the pivot from how traditional you would view the genre with just how you're sitting at your desk and you're monitoring the screens. You're just keeping them away from you and managing your power towards for, for me, what was a sudden shift was security breach with now there's an actual linear narrative and you're not at the desk. You're kind of running around kind of like it's an adventure game, open world exploration type crap. Well that's the thing, you can only realistically do the same.

11:51 You are locked in place so many times. Granted, there was like hundreds of clones. Yeah, clones, whether they were good or bad, like candies or one of my favorites, Popeye. No Pop goes, Pop goes. Yeah, pop goes was one of my favorites. Like no matter what it is like good or bad or just like there was hundreds of them. Like what is the? Period of the market. No, I mean, like I said, there was good and bad ones. Like for another one, for example, is one night at Flumpty's that's like, oh, that's so that's one of the best ones.

12:22 I just I will say for one night at Flumpty's there was some controversial information about the developer. No. So just, you know. But that doesn't take away from the fact that one night at Flumpty's is fucking great. Yes and I am so mad that because they put the bevel the Beaver in the owl from the first and second games together to make the bee vowel. Because they both use toilets. One stands out of urinal 1 is in the toilet. They could have called it the bowel. That is so. Fucking I know, such a missed opportunity.

12:59 I guess from my perspective of Five Nights at Freddy's, I'm more the like, I like the traditional, like you're sitting at the desk doing like the cameras and it's like you're managing your power, you know? It's just a new age of games. It was a new. We're in the steel wool era, yeah. Yes, we're not in the Scott era anymore. No, yeah. Well. I mean, that's the progression of franchises. You have to adapt or die. And it as much as it's like, OK, it is adapting, it's just I don't play the game. So seeing content from both is like a huge jump.

13:41 Oh yeah, it's. Not having like the background knowledge that you guys have on what's going on. I mean, my thing is that like while I do like the traditional sit down, like I like 1/2 and kind of ultimate custom night, like I've dabbled in pretty much everyone but Pizzeria SIM and. Did you play 4? For a little bit I did not play for long because I did. I just couldn't, can't handle like how quiet everything was. But then the jump scares were loud as shit. It was I I can't do it loud. I know when when Scott released the 4th game, yeah there was a problem with the breathing of the animatronics being too quiet and then the like you said the jump scare is like Jesus fucking Christ.

14:31 I know he put out a patch I think like a day later or something. I mean, I played this over on Game Pass, so this was not this was, this was not initial launch. OK. So yeah. For sure. Well, because that's a persisting issue then. It's just, that's the thing with that game, you like it, that that in particular will force you to wear headphones. Yes, because you have to listen for things even the tiniest like audio clues like the game will tell you everything you need to know. Yes, if if you know what the clues are, even if it's like the the animatronics moving around, shuffling like getting into the closet, yes, it's like it's just that, but then like the the screens are just so loud in comparison because you are really like.

15:11 You really listen. Yeah. And then like, since you're so focused on listening, you get what? And you're like, whoa. And that's, and I think that like, that's the whole point of it, Yeah. If like, you fucked up, you fucked up. And it was, it was just too scary for that reason, 'cause I was dedicating all my brain power to listening that like. And you're also like. Like I don't know, like hyper focus. Hyper focus and also anxious as shit because you don't know you know. Is Bonnie at this door? Yeah.

15:42 I prefer one and two. Yeah, one and two. Those are my favorites out of the. One, if you there's a. There's a coffin arrow. Yeah, there's a video, excuse me, on YouTube from, I believe his name is Scruffy. You went over in great detail the audio of the first FNAF. Yeah, we kind of talked about that before. Jesus Christ. Yeah, there's a lot like. Perfect. It was, although. Sorry, go on. I love that again, you had the audio cues and shit, like in the office when you're off the cameras, you can actually hear Chica in the kitchen.

16:26 Yeah. Which then tells you, OK, so she's in the kitchen, I don't have to check the camera for a second. Yeah, no, no more worrying about her like. You're yeah, bouncing everything, you know, and and that I would say that game still to this day is scary. No, no, for sure. The first one is, I mean this. I feel like the second one is scary for its own reason. Like there's so many animatronics, but also just the way the animatronics are portrayed is kind of dumb. But I do want to get back to this. I want to kind of want to talk about the other games in relation to Secret of the Mimic at the end.

17:02 But like going back to the Secret of the Mimic, like you're starting to go around this area that you like, this kind of main area, like the main office that you talk to, to dispatch about. Yeah, because you're you've been up for 36 hours at least, which is like, that's kind of what like emergency services people deal with. Yeah, if you're used to that, you're used to it. But like. Even then, like. Yeah, it can take a toll. You can. So he so this guy's dead tired and every single time he talks, he's like, man, I, I can't, I can't do this.

17:39 I need sleep like this is using no man, you got this. You can. You don't work for that $25.00 gift card, which actually somebody did the math and 1979 to today that would be $111.00 gift card, which doesn't sound too bad now does. It doesn't sound that bad, but at the same time. You have to deal with a fucking. 36 hours come on end to end. But it's a gift card, you can spend it anywhere. And then you also have to to get that gift card, you have to try to not get mangled by the mimic. But also, dispatch who's talking to you is the mimic.

18:19 Yes. So you're not getting like that $25.00 gift card. It's not happening. Yeah. But yeah, like then and then, like, you know, you're starting to walk around, you figure out your first encounter with the Mimi can get past him. And I will say this is my problem with the game is that this is mascot horror. Yes. This is what Five Nights at Freddy's is. It's just mascot horror. Yes, Yes. The mimic is kind of the mascot of the game. Technically there's Jackie, still a mimic, but still a mimic. Yeah, there's the mimic uses so many different costumes.

18:54 I feel like it just doesn't have an identity. I know it is the mimic, like the mimic has an identity of itself, but it using the costumes and you not really seeing the mimic in his pure form. Just I me personally, I don't recognize it as the mimic and it just doesn't seem like there is a mascot. It's just a bunch of mishmash characters. Which, yeah, in in that aspect, yeah. Yeah. Cuz honestly it would have been kind of nice to see the mimic in its form with no costume. I mean, you do in in certain parts of the game, but.

19:26 It should have been. More This is at the end, yeah. That's the thing, I think it should have been more. Right, that's what I'm saying. Cuz just just the mimic itself, it just the endoskeleton, that fucking thing's creepy as shit. It is and that's what I would love to see more is like cuz again, you just, you get to see more of the characters that it's portraying because it, it can in the game, it says when it gets into a suit, it takes the personality of that suit. Granted, there's so many different small characters that it takes over.

20:01 Like not like the big chasing characters, but like the small characters that it just doesn't really talk or it just makes sounds really. Oh yeah. Then you get to Jackie and it's like, Oh my God, who wants you a birthday hug and like all that kind of stuff. And like, this is like kind of the first boss of the game and. Fuck it. Jackie, honestly, it's, it's cool because like, the Mimic is strong. It is strong and durable as hell. But yeah, Jackie's arms are just so long and loose that it doesn't know how to control it.

20:33 Yep. Yeah, that that just made that. That just would look so fucking weird, you know? Right, Because the mimic does not have stretchy arms and this, God, that would be so fucking awkward. I'm trying to do that running after you on like those catwalks or whatever, you know? But The thing is, Jackie doesn't have legs, so it has to solely rely on it's really long arms. And as you're running you just see the arms next to you and shit. Oh my God. Which it's funny because I've watched some videos on. The third person perspective.

21:06 What you don't see? Yeah. And I wanna watch those. They're not as close as you think they. Are. No, not at all. It's just the illusion. That's usually what those kind of games do. Trust me, I've kind of learned that with a certain character that I'm gonna get to cuz I fucking hate them. I know which one are you talking about FC playing against but. But yeah, I, I love, I also just love how like you have to use the data diver to like upgrade your permissions to get to other areas in the game. Like that's just such a cool concept for.

21:37 Me, it adds like a sort of like Alien vibe to it. Like I'm not, I'm not talking like like Alien. Oh, it's, it's Aliens. I'm talking about like Alien the franchise with the old tech. Yes. Like like, like it feels very seventies, 80s. Esque. Well, that's because like it. Yeah, I. Know, I know it takes place at that. Point. Yeah, and like you. It it feels like it fits in with with that sort of aesthetic. Yeah. I mean, it's just all these like it's these big bulky machines. Big bulky hard plastic grey white machine.

22:10 You have to work with and like even even you see that little screen pop up for like, Oh yeah, you do this to upgrade your permission and it's just the most janky piece of shit ever. And it's like you get like 4 frames a second. It's like, oh man, that's great. And like what our parents dealt with. And like when you plug in the data diver and turn it whatnot, it's like. Yep. Like the the loading bar is just so uneven and everything and it just takes forever. And even opening a door, closing a door, it's like, come on, come on, he's after me.

22:43 Close. The door. Oh Yep Yep, like that shit sucks. Just the semi reliable technology. Yeah. But I I kind of got a like a kick out of I guess like towards the the like true ending. I guess where you're, you go into like kind of a replica or like a like work in progress like Freddy's. Yeah, I do want to get to that. I was going to say, like going to the next bus is probably my favorite is Big Top. And like, this is another like, Music Man kind of character. And it's just like his Jingle when he's like happy La, La La, like, oh, give me your ticket tickets, please.

23:31 And it like the lights are on the mannequin server. But like just like the way he's like not attacking you and like the music is super fast and whatnot. You play a game and it's like, all right, cool, you got a ticket now go spin that wheel powers down. There's like all the music slowed down and there's a totally different tone. And he's like looking around, scanning the area for you. And it's like, man. And like just how big he is, the way he looks, how he's like just portrayed and everything like his multiple arms, just like every music man does.

24:02 And it's just how he's portrayed is just fucking perfect. I love the fact that like the his teeth, like his mouth is like the the way he plays the music. Yes, you know, he he was he he's cool. I just that section for me was highly annoying but that's probably honestly that's on me and not necessarily the game. I would say I think the game I maybe I just didn't pay attention, but I feel like the game could have done a better job at explaining what you're supposed to do. Yes. Cuz I had to look up what I'm supposed to do.

24:40 Yeah, once I completed the first game, I'm like, I can't play any more games. I can't spin this wheel. What am I supposed to do? Yep, You're supposed to go around back to that flux. I'm not mean that flux, but like that liquid thing, pull the lever and then like try to do it in time before big Top scares you. And like I'm just like, what do I do? Yeah. Do I do anything? Do I just have to like press a button? No, you literally have to like go sneak around all the way around and then get there, do the whole thing and then you can play another game.

25:14 Repeat that like 3 fucking times, which was kind of annoying but it's like getting that phase shift between he's all nice and dandy and he's like after you is like. What's? Pretty cool. It's perfect. Like, yeah, I I think that was probably my problem was that the game really didn't tell you. No, this is what you need to do. It did not. And I'm like, OK. Yeah, I was kind of pissed at that too. But no, I I do like the way that they did big top. He's just and he just overall his appearance and everything was just cool as shit.

25:49 Oh my God, you. Know and his chase, you know, is pretty cool too. It's just it's just randomized. And it's short. It is short, like the the first part is randomized and it's kind of annoying because like you get up to the top or the roof and then go inside and then he chases you down a stairwell. But then you get into like the offices kind of area and like just he'll block certain ways or certain doors will be closed and it's randomized even I'm dead, I think. And it's just so annoying because like, want you one playthrough or time you can go one way and another playthrough or time you can go a different way.

26:26 And it's like, well, which way can I go? And then he stomps his hand down and like, oh, can't you actually go that way? And then you really got to figure out where you're supposed to go because the door next to you is blocked. And it's like, well, what are I got? Jump scare? Yep. No, I just I think from when I I watched 8 bit Ryan play. Yeah, this and the thing he brought up about Big Top was all of that build up with him for kind of little was kind of upsetting. I know. I wish I got to see you so much more of Big Top he was.

26:59 He's just such an interesting character. Yes, it I think they could have done better with him with just when he's outside of that area that you first see him. Yeah, like, I mean, you saw him jump across these pillars on the roof and you're like, what the hell is he doing? Yeah, that, that was pretty cool. I'm not gonna. Fuck, that was just. Sees mother fucker. Oh shit, it's so fucking close. To you he does, and he doesn't like grab you and squeeze you to death like a crushed can. He's like. No, he just gets real close, like, hey, what's up?

27:36 Is that him like an Ant with sorry, a person with a magnifying glass looking at an Ant? Tickets please. Tickets please. See that? That's how you make you make them your friend. You just give them the ticket. Yeah, be like, thank you. Goes up, back up. Well, the funny part is like there's a point where you're walking on the roof and like a ticket just like flutters down from the ceiling and it's just like, oh, no, he's back. I don't think he's gonna accept this ticket. He picked it up. It's past that point.

28:12 Yeah, he's best. No, I that was probably one of the the best thing in Secret of the Mimic was with Big. Top. I did not like Jackie. I loved Big Top. Yeah, Jackie's. I feel like Jackie was wasted potential. Yeah. There's only so much you can do with long arms. Yes. Person like, generic long like, generic stretchy person like. Yeah, well. What about? What about the nurse?

28:42 It's I don't hate it like Jackie and I don't love it like Big Tub. OK, but it's still pretty good. I mean, I will say, what do you think of Big Tub Mark? Like you just seen him because you've seen him a couple. Times. I've seen him a couple times. I really wish you could see more of him though. Right? Like especially in the elevator. I think, yeah, I think that's the big problem because like you eventually do see him and he gets like super close to his upside down climbing, but then everything falls and crashes, yes.

29:08 Yeah. Like even during that, you don't get any opportunities to be able to look up and see him. You're just focused so much on the levers. You don't get to see any of the characters really. I mean, yet Dolly is probably the one you get to see the most, yes? But even like what? The game is named after the mimic, yeah, and you barely see him. Well, Jackie, that's the mimic. Big Top, that's the mimic Dolly, that's the mimic. Like it is the mimic because. Or even even even with like a like you've mentioned the Fazbear sort of like section, not even seeing any more like the the series named characters and like prototype stages.

29:53 You really don't. I mean, the most the character get to see the most is Chica, which is fine. That's fine, yeah. But Chica, yeah. Because, you know, you go through the section with Dolly and I'm not gonna like Glaze over this thing, but it's actually like really cool. I have to like how she's like walking around and everything. I mean, first you have to build the suit and like, that's an OK section. I yeah, I really don't like the play. It's just you have to like actively play and you know, it's just, you just shoot things and you're just standing there not really doing much.

30:23 And if you die, you have to restart the whole thing over again. Granted, just not too hard. But then you get to the section with Dolly because she's like, Oh well, oh, we seem to you seem to have a foreign object inside of you and you have to scoop that out of you and bleach you and turning into paste. Like dear God. There are 4000 other tickets ahead of you. Luckily, there's 4625 other things ahead of you all. Right. Bye. OK, I'm gone. Yeah. And then like, you know, you have, you have to like walk around this like really like tight area trying to find all these cubes you have to put in the dispenser or whatever.

31:04 Yes. And then that whole, that whole thing with her being in like lava, like getting out, like literally like burning the wall to get out. I'm like. That was kind of. Jesus, that was kind of cool. Yeah, OK, there's a That's a strong motherfucker. If it is mad. If you can dunk them in lava and they don't die. Yeah, no, like I like I said before, I just, I I wanted to see the mimic more without costumes. Yes. That's what I meant. No, I get. Mimic is there. I get you, but you don't see it as the mimic, you see it as Dolly because it takes the personality of what it's inside.

31:45 So me being the person I am, that's me associating Dolly with Dolly, not the mimic.

31:56 Even even if it would give you more of an indication that this is something else inside of the suit. I mean it. I mean it. Well, it kind of it kind of does because the the eyes. True. Yeah, the eyes, I mean, a lot of the a lot of the Google bosses as people call them in this game, which are, you know, like Dolly, Jackie, whatever, you don't get to see the mimics eyes. There's a lot of other areas where you do get, oh excuse me, see the mimics eyes? Yeah, like Jackie. You can see his eyes. Yeah, when she starts to get broken up, yes.

32:31 But no, I wanted to see more of the just the mimic itself and yeah it's endoskeleton form cuz that now that's fucking creepy. I wanna see it because of how strong and durable it is. It's like you, you are a frame. You wonder. You can't. You shouldn't be that strong. Because not even the the later animatronics like Freddie Bonnie Chica, they're nowhere near as durable as him. Don't. God no. I mean, you saw how they got off. Well, in like the second game, you know, they got tore up because they had their technology ripped out.

33:10 And I mean, that's because of, you know, people. But like, yeah no, the Mimic is strong as fuck. It's like, it's just like why? Why is this endoskeleton so? Strong, yeah. I don't know if they ever say if you're looking online, what it's made of it. Has to be like vibranium myself. It's just something that's stronger than steel, which that doesn't. I don't think that. Exists. I don't think so. I don't know what could be stronger. Well, there are things, but there's nothing as like economically viable.

33:47 Yeah. OK. That's definitely the thing. Like it also really just depends on how different strength is. So there's tensile strength, there's compressive strength, there's just different ways that something could be strong. This has all of it. Yeah. This literally has all of it. He was able to punch a door down with its bare fist in its mimic form.

34:15 And like you said it, it didn't fucking melt. No it didn't. Like what the fuck? Like what? Like lava was, you could see lava dripping off it and cooling off on the ground below. And it's just like, how are you moving right now? How is your circuitry not destroyed? The fucking. Terminator couldn't last in lava. No, it could. What the fuck I? Gave you a thumbs up shot though. But not it's. It's just, it's wild. How? Yeah, it's just like, that's the one thing that doesn't make sense to me, is like, yeah, I think his name is Edwin.

34:54 Edwin. Edwin built this machine and he's like, yeah, I'm not able to replicate this. I don't know what you want me to do. I cannot do it. This can be done a second time. Yes. And it just, it plays God. It just plays God. He, he like, I mean, it was revolutionary for the time, but it's like, my guy, you made something that can mimic anything and then you're asked the size. And I understand he was upset because his kid got killed. That I understand completely 100%. But you beat the fucking animatronic with a goddamn metal pipe.

35:28 What do? You think it was going to do, you know? Like I'm a mimic for a reason. And then now it's like, Oh well, I guess that's OK to do punch like. I best stick like my dad after 5 bottles of beer. Like my thing is where does it get this power from? Because there there can't be one power supply because it can't remove that without powering down, it can't replace that. I don't know if there if if there's some type of like recharge mode this thing has. Maybe. Shuts down. Been alive for six hours.

36:02 And also alive for another 60 years. Yeah, that's true. So I mean, I mean video game logic. Yeah. But but it makes you think like how? Because eventually you've got a power. The things got to power down. Yeah, no, for sure. You know. He's got to just like just cut heap of trash on the floor. Yeah, no, that'd be funny, the things coming after you and you just see it slowly go down it's eyes turn off fucking falls over funny. Yeah, bitch.

36:33 Nah, I I that that's honestly a really good question that that's. I mean, I'm sure it's explained on the book Remnant. It's Remnant. I'm sure it's explained in the books, but like. Oh that's right, there are books on the Mimic isn't? There's books on everything, I believe. Yeah, The Mimic, there's books on Into the Pit. There's. I know there's the twisted ones which are like kind of separate. I wouldn't know. All I just know is that like a lot of these newer games are based off the books. Yes, but going back to the secret of the mimic where we at Dolly.

37:04 So what's what was the next section? I think it was Chica. You're in like Chica, the horses are rolling around on rollerblades and everything. That was actually pretty cool. I liked the the two sections I like the most was the one where Chico's on rollerblades and he had to like, go around collecting these, like two pieces. Yeah. And the one where you had to like, sneak around Big Top. Yes. I just liked how you had to like there was an active threat in the center of the room or, you know, whatever.

37:30 Moving around. Like there was an active threat moving around. You had a lot of space, but if you messed up, you're done. Yes. Like. Yeah, like it was a as a fair challenge. Yeah, because the next section with Chica is you're in the offices. Yes. And you have the width for one person in an animatronic suit, there's not much space to move around. And if you're caught, you are you're. Oh, you're. Fucked. They're they're, yeah. Now it is very claustrophobic. That's this guy. A warm, warm and cozy. Before you know you're going to start hearing snoring, yeah.

38:12 This man EBBB is going to go Betty Bay on and to let me read you a bedtime story. Goodbye me. Hugs, new. Hugs new.

38:27 But I mean, Chica wasn't really anything to write home about. It was really cool that you got to see Chica and like kind of like a as a stuffed suit instead of like a like a hard shell just kind of deal. Yeah, it was like a complete, like, you could tell it was still Chica, but like, as soon as you saw her, yes, that's Chica. Fuck, I got to run because she burst out of the crate and everything. But like, you just see her and you're like, man, that's actually a pretty cool, you know, rendition of her being in the 1980s, seventies.

38:59 Yeah, yeah. There's something with Chica I remember, like I don't know if it was like like the game glitched out or something, but you can actually have it where I don't know if it's if you get into the room too early like by just like hacking the game or whatever, that Chica will despawn so she won't actually come out of the crate or something. It'll just bust open. You can also accidentally unload the level or that section if you because I think the way that the the game works is when you leave a section.

39:35 Yeah. It unloads. It unloads and there was somebody I was watching that did that. Did you just see Chica fall this? Void probably some like kind of like Tera 8 bit or whatever. Eight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like a. Has like the four bars yeah, the four colored bars yes. I think that's like Tera 8 bit or something. Yes he he tries to glitch the game out hardcore. Yeah, and he finds out. And he also finds like, like different genres of games, like their development or, you know, like stuff that's cut.

40:11 It was just, it was just funny to see Chica just falling in the vault. There's still a lot I want to like watch people like I definitely want to watch Astro Astro Spiff play it. Like I do love Markiplier, but like Astro Spiff, I feel like it doesn't matter the game. He plays a lot of FNAF but it doesn't matter the game. He puts a lot of energy into this like but not too much. He's not like over the top, yes. And like I said, with Markiplier, he, you know, he's like after finishing it, like it's not him, it's not for him.

40:41 Well, no, actually, when he finished it, he was like, I, I like the direction that they took. I like this. Really. Yeah. No, actually at the end he was like, I like this game. I like the direction they took. Oh, that it was is completely opposite of what you think. But I want to talk about the next the next area you get to because you get the admin permissions and then you finally see Chica chasing you down the hallway and like, oh God, close the door. Oh yeah, right, right, right. So oh, yeah, you also have like, the goodbye show, which is pretty funny.

41:15 And like, Big Top again comes back and chases you. It's like, how many times I'm going to see this man before he's destroyed Like, which I'm glad he brought. They brought him back. It's pretty cool. But then you get to the White Tiger section. Oh. Oh, that. Section This is a section he. Hates. I hate this section. So much. This I do. This section is. Bad because sometimes the tigers like all right, you've been, you've been in the shadows long enough, die. And other times, like I'll give you a couple more seconds to run over to that light or the light, like as you're running towards the light, the light turns off and you're only safe in the lights.

41:52 Yes. And it's just like, it's just kind of random, kind of not, but kind of random, unlike how the lights operate. It's like, can we can we have like some form of whatever? Yeah. And there was a time where, like I was running towards a place, the light turned off and I'm like, well, I'm just dead. So I just stood in the darkness and he teleports faster and faster until he eventually just kills you. And sometimes he just kills you fast when he teleports, like just early on. And I was like, pick a time.

42:20 Like, yeah, but yeah, he like, I just stood there and he was like, teleport, teleport, teleport, teleport just around me. And I'm like, you're not killing me. What is happening? And then, like, dead. I mean, that took way too long to kill me because he was literally like, left side, right side, front, like back behind me. I'm like, oh fuck, right. Fuck. Oh yeah, I remember. That no, you don't remember that because I didn't do that. I did that on another discord. You did that. Yeah, I'm going to have to show you guys because it's so fucking stupid if he does it again.

42:49 Like I'm like, that was the time where I'm just like, OK, I figured out your AI kind of. You're less, you're way less scary. It's more so the area that gives me anxiety because I could just die on one run and another one I could just fly right through it. Yeah, see, I don't, I don't like that where there's no fucking consistency with the. AI and that's what gives me anxiety it's like am I going to make it through this time or am I going to die and it's like and. That's just that's frustrating. It is very, I mean especially like because you also like see him a couple times throughout the game before this, you have like 2 encounters or whatever yes.

43:27 And it's just like well, he doesn't do anything. He just like looks at you. He's like poof, like what's up? Hey poof, how you doing? You got games on your phone? God. My farts on the floor. Yeah, I fucking I fucking hate that section so much. Yeah, I didn't like watching AP and Ryan do it. I like, I don't like this section. This is not new. I did not like playing this section. To this day I've done 6 play throughs. I have not done this alone. I have always had streamed it and had somebody watch it because fuck that section.

44:13 It gives me so much anxiety. Yeah, now that's I, I don't know at at this point I'm going to continue my playthrough because I, I know how everything. Is at this point, I mean that's fine like I'm not. I will say it sucks having to do 6 playthroughs this I'm going to get to why I've done 6 play because this game, it's not built well for 100%, which as you guys should know, I am a achievement hunter. Yeah, this game kind of makes you want to put a achievement hunting on the back burner and just play games for fun.

44:50 Honestly, probably a good thing. Take. A little break from. It I'm going to get more into that later, but like, yeah. And just now we're going to get to where what we've been talking about kind of a lot is when you do the. I think the Canon ending is called Yeah, because. Because if you were to leave now, it's 4:00 AM. Yes. And you're like, wait a minute, No, these games end at six. Yeah, wait a minute, this is wrong. And then by the time you get into the the FNAF one location and you get like inside the whatever, it's 5:00 AM.

45:21 Yes. So that's a pretty cool detail. It's like, wait, the the game's ending, you look at the clock, it's 4 P 4:00 AM. And it's just like, no, no, there's still more time. This is this is wrong. And if you were to go for that ending, like the 4:00 AM ending, it's it's like, all right, yeah. Give give me back your data to everyone. You can. You can feel free to go. Your truck is right there. That's not where I parked my truck. Why is my truck there? Why is my truck in the garage? It's outside. That's not my truck.

45:57 And that's when you it was that when you figure out that dispatch was not actually dispatch. You find that out like 2:00 AM actually, okay because it's like hey, how you doing? Yeah, but then the actual dispatch is like, what the fuck? Yeah. We've been trying to reach you for hours. We're terminating your. We've been trying to reach you for your cars extended warranty. And then you and they give the literally they gave the mimic the fucking data driver. Yeah. And then now the dispatch, like, what the fuck man, would you put that, you know, we're docking your payers or some, Yeah.

46:32 It's like I gave it to you. You were talking to me. Our lawyers are going to reach out to you very soon. Yeah, that he just dies, so it doesn't matter anyway. Yeah, those lawyers reached out very quickly. But yeah, if you go the other way and you go to the F1 location, it's really cool. I think it's called the Amalgam, in which it talks like it talks like Big Top, Jackie and Dolly. I believe there might be another character in there, but I can't tell. The thing is that there is no White Tiger in there because I mean, White Tiger doesn't talk, but like White Tiger appears and is gone.

47:13 That's how he operates. He doesn't move. Yes. Doesn't move, he doesn't talk. It's. So, like, who the fuck is White Tiger? Yeah. Is it the mimic or is it something else? Anyway, you get into this to this, like, old fun application. You have all these, like, security cameras. Dispatch is still talking to you like, this is the wrong choice, buddy, you're gonna die. It doesn't matter where you go. The mimic will hunt you down. You made a mistake coming here. Yeah. But no, I like it was just cool to see that kind of work in part progress.

47:47 Kind of like version of. The person right. No, Yeah, for sure. It's like. Because you saw the you literally saw Bonnie, Freddie and Chica up on stage. Just, you know, they're very, very early in progress. Yeah, I mean, but then you also have the two side characters that you like are suits. Yes, that's like who are these guys? Yeah, one kind of has like a foxy like mouth, like the just like the way the teeth look. Which could be a very early version of Foxy. But other than that, it really doesn't look like that.

48:22 And then there's also Bub over there in the other corner. Yeah, and then there's also, I forget which ending it is, but you get stuffed in one of the suits. I didn't see that ending. So I can't remember if it's. If it's something particular you have to do, I'll have to look this up, but you kind of similar to the way Help wanted did it where you got like stuffed in the Freddie suit and you see, oh, was that fucking rabbit guy or whatever. Like trap glitch trap. Yeah. So that was kind of similar to this in In Secret of the Mimic.

49:08 You were back in that location again, but you like had the the view of where that Freddie was on stage. It's really weird. I gotta look it up and see if I can find it. I thought you saw. I thought I saw you getting that ending once or twice. No, I've never. I've only gotten 3 endings. So that one, I believe that one is like bad like it's. Of. Course, like, you know, yeah.

49:39 But it was interesting to see that it was like you fucked up. I had no, I just, I thought there was only three endings. And I mean that and that might not be maybe it's not considered an ending. I don't, I don't know. I don't know if it's like special or something. Yeah, but I'm do a little bit more research. But I do remember that. And that was pretty cool. I think that actually happened to 8 bit Ryan, if I'm mistaken.

50:05 So we'll we'll we'll figure that out, right. But it was cool. Getting getting it back to a little bit. Then you get to the house, which is kind of a cool section because you get to see more of the amalgam as well as there's two different ends here. But the the first one is that like you're you haven't gotten all the collectibles, you haven't done moon.exe, you haven't like done that to get to the I'm not even sure what ending that's called or what they call that ending, but like the kind of the mimic ending, I'll call it.

50:41 But you get to the true ending where like you eventually get all the tapes, you get to the code to the door and everything. You get upstairs and be like, oh, what's the surveillance about? Is every single screen in the entire like Murph what? Murray's costume. Yeah, manner. Then like, you know, you look at that and you're like, wait a minute, something's behind me. And there it is, the mimic. You finally get to see the mimic in its mimic form. Yes, this is the mimic. Did you did you do the ending with shutting down the mimic?

51:23 I did, yes. OK, I thought that was kind of cool. It is cool, but I was confused by it because like the, the screen fades to black because like the, the mimic is like trying to be like, do you know the next part of the story? And I was like, yes, that's right. The rabbits, the rabbits were chasing each other around and around the tree, going in circles, having fun. What about the next part of the story? And like you have to like press the buttons and everything and like eventually like because like how it like goes into a small guy and like that was that was cute.

51:52 It was cute. It was cute and like it would be like, what's the next? It's part of the something like it grows. Again. Yeah, to a human sized person and. Then he eventually goes to bed. Yeah, which? Is that's. Which is talking like David and Edwin and via or whatever is like. Yeah, and. The that's kind of fucked up, but like what I'm confused by is yeah, it goes to bed, whatever. Like with this white tiger doll, it's like the screen fades to black and you are standing there. You can't move. It's like, what?

52:26 What's the outcome? So that outcome, I know that one, I don't want to say it's a, it's a a good ending, I guess. I guess it's a good ending, but not Canon. Yeah, can't be because security reach ruin. Yes. So that would be where you were successful in turning the thing off. And I guess that's really it. Like it's just not a, like I said, a Canon true ending. Yeah, it's just like ACI guess a secret ending. Yeah, probably a secret ending. It's like a secret. You have to like you have to go through moon.exe and then you get like what like the glitched or something like that data driver access.

53:15 Yes. And that carries through the profiles too, because I did the moon ending inside that code door room. You can't go outside of it once you go into it. So great. I have to do another playthrough and that's what led to my fifth one and I'm like, oh, so if I have the glitched, I can just plug it in and go right to the ending, right? No, you still have to get all the accesses Yes, that glitch is or whatever it is that moon is just for the broken whatever doors inside the house to get because there's 6 rooms with that bar thing with six different tapes.

54:06 Yes, in each of them. You have to get the tapes into that so you can get that ending. And then also was not explained and I didn't know you could do this. You have to take the white tiger doll out and place it on the pedestal because you put all the things in the storage. So that way you can use all of them inside moon.exe to get, you know, to the end. So there's really no point to take the collectibles out. Yeah, the tools you can take out, which because that tells you like, oh, go under tools, get the get the crank right at the very beginning of the game.

54:43 You are never told that you can take out a collectible and then you have to take because I had to look that up too, just like with Big Top. Like what do I do with Big Top? They were I I think the developers were assuming you would have known that, which can't do that and assume. No you can't. And some clues and shit. Yeah. I mean, had I been told that like I had to take out that I could take out collectibles? Because I think I even tried once, but I just couldn't. Because, you know, you get into that room, there's like the whatever on the wall that like tells you what the story is.

55:16 And then there's the pedestal. And like the book with all the buttons you have to push but the pedestal is glowing with a paw. Yeah. You have to place that tiger there.

55:27 Yeah. I that's, I think, yeah, they, they, the developers could have done better on that. But yeah, that's funny. That's pretty much going through the whole game and it's just like, I kind of adore this game. I kind of don't. There's the part where I just don't see it as Five Nights at Freddy's. It's This is the Mimic. This isn't Freddy's. No, this is a totally different. Granted, it's all about the mimic, but like, yeah, you see pirate Foxy, you see Roxy for a little bit as a puppet, you see. You definitely see Chica and then kind of Fredbear as a suit and Spring Trap as a suit, but that's like not really a thing that's like just.

56:14 That's something different. Yeah, as well as what you said, like the early stages of everything, that's pretty cool. But like for the majority of the game, this isn't fun. F. Yeah, it's, it's, it's it's own thing, I guess you could say. Like it's not truly a Five Nights at Fred. It's. Not like I can see security breach because you still have Chica and Freddie and like they're they're everywhere. Every you look at the trash cans, they're there. You look at Bonnie bowl like Freddie, like like Freddie's fazzer blast.

56:45 You have Chica jazzercise, mazer size, whatever, like it's everything is themed of there ever. You cannot miss the fact that it is There is Freddy, there is Chica, there's Foxy, Whatever. You can't miss that. That is a that is a Freddy's game. But there is nothing relatively in this game that just tells you, hey, this is a Five Nights at Freddy's game. I mean, like, what are your thoughts on this mark? Like because it really doesn't scream Freddy's to me. It doesn't. And I made the comment to you.

57:11 I'd said this is less of like Five Nights at Freddy's and more like Fun Night at Fazbear's or something. You're not wrong. Because it's one night and it's only. I mean that that is the new generation of steel wall. Yeah. Yeah, call it Five Nights at Freddy's. There should be 5 nights. I mean. God damn it. I could definitely see them doing something like, oh, we have a system like Resident Evil where we're telling multiple stories at the same time. That could be something that they could do to really just kind of pin it out.

57:50 I guess, but like the the comment that I made back to you after you said like fun, fun, whatever at Fredbear or whatever he said, my comment back to you, Mark, was this isn't Five Nights at Freddy's, this is FNAF. Yeah, there's the. Distinction 'cause it's it's yeah 'cause it's. It's known now as more FNAF. Yeah, 'cause there there are, There isn't five nights, it's funnaf, but there's not five nights, no. Fun nights. I like, I I'm optimistic. It's like to see what's next. Yeah, because I mean, given all of the bullshit with Security Breach and Mimic.

58:32 Yeah, there was a. Steel wool has been doing fine. They're they're. Learning, I will say compared to Security Breach, I do. I adore Security Breach, but I do think that Mimic was a step in the right direction. I think they definitely brought back the horror because that's what was missing. And as much as I hate horror, but like I. It's supposed to be a horror. Game it is. It's supposed to be scary and I like as much as I hate the the white tiger section. I'm like. This feels this. Yeah, this is not only horror, but it's also psychological horror in this aspect only because it's like this is there's this mysterious character that can teleport and use lights at his will.

59:17 Yeah. Which is. Which I guess isn't too far off. Like I guess FNAF 5 minutes of Freddy's could be considered in some way psychological horror. Yeah. Yeah. Especially the first game like you were saying with all the audio shit, all the audio game like there's fake audio and that doesn't red hair anything to do with Freddy or the any of the four animatronics. Yeah, no. It's just there to creep you out. And it's like, wow, that's cool. It makes you think because when you think about if you take away, if you strip Five Nights at Freddy's, like all of it's horror, all that stuff.

59:53 It's a resource management game. Yes, that is what it is. But it's just it's. You know, also got this horror based. Yeah. But. It's mechanically it is a resource. Management, it is supposed. It's supposed to be dark, it's supposed to be dingy. There's supposed to be something going on in the background that you don't know about. Yeah. Security Breach really didn't have that. It's just like, no, oh, Vanny, it's Vanessa and Bunny together. It's like, what are what are we doing? Yeah, everyone can guess.

1:00:23 That yeah, I could definitely say that security breach, kind of no pun intended breach this sort of identity of the game trying to do something new. I mean which, and again, I do agree, I think that Secret of the Mimic does do that identity a bit better because it it has much more of a narrow focus. And there's also Ruin, which really did turn up the horror. It did, it did, but I just didn't like the linearity of ruin. That's what, yeah, it was kind of a 180 from security breach. 'Cause it's like you can really only play it once.

1:01:05 Yeah, security bridge. You can just fuck around. And I love that. It's it to me, it's a sandbox and I fucking love that. Yeah, and it's, and I just. I love, I love the. Glam rocks. I know dude if they if they put mimic like the horror of of mimic with the. Aesthetic. Of yeah, the aesthetic of the Pizza Plex, it would be fucking. With the Glamorax, it would be fucking. Perfect. And I just, I love, I love Freddy so much. Oh my God, yeah. I am truly sorry. Stop, stop. It's OK. It's it's just a magnet.

1:01:46 It's just a. It's a. It's a it's. Your eyes. So sorry. Also with and we have hit time by the way, one thing I wanted to say, playing a little bit of help on it too. There is a mini game where you fix glam rock Freddie and he's still just as funny. Because I love when because there's a hot and cold mechanic. And it. Makes it too hot or too cold. And it's just, it's funny when he gets too hot, you know, he's like, man, is it just me or is it getting hot? You know, I'm like. OK or or it gets called his freeze engineer that like.

1:02:25 Security breach had a charm. It really did, yeah. I think it's because, you know, it's set in the future of like 20-30, which is the most believable date is 2030. Yes. It just like with these advanced energy, because there's here's another thing, the original games are all about haunted children, like haunted animatronics of dead children and serial killers and all this kind of shit. This one is just the the new era, the steel wool era is just. These are sentient. Robots. Beings or you know, we're.

1:03:03 Yeah, robots at this point. Like, yes, these are their own. These aren't children. Nothing. But I forgot where it's going with us. Oh well.

1:03:16 And I like just to also say like, I still love, even though it's sad. With Roxy. Yeah. With what was her name? What was the girl's name? I. Forgot. Oh, Cassandra. No. Cassie. Cassie. Cassie. You know, like the fact that Roxy knew that was Cassie. Yeah, You know, and. Because it's like, it's a higher pitch, you know, obviously a girl's voice is like, get up, get away from me. And it's like, oh, sorry, bye, bye. I cuz. She can't see. Yeah, she can't see. She can hear, but she can't see. And the fact that Roxy actually wasn't dead and was fighting off the mimic, which was pretty badass.

1:03:56 Michael like that made me really like Roxy a little more because I mean, I even felt bad for the character just because she's got such self esteem issues. Oh my God. Robot. I know cuz she's all like look at me, I'm the best as she's like walking around but then like she gets destroyed. She's like. Will you still like me? And that's. Am I pretty is like damn she just got depressed and. Then you got Chico who who wants pizza? You know I gotta. Shut my face. Eating shit and then Gator guy whatever.

1:04:35 Just being a Dick. I don't care about. I don't care about. I don't. I want my Bonnie back. I just don't like Bonnie back or not replace him with literally anybody else cuz like he he has the typical like 70s or whatever rock star yes attitude yes. Yeah. Yeah, but like after a show, break your guitar. Like party rock, whatever. Be like Rock'n'roll or whatever. Like I just, I wanted, I wanted to see how Bonnie would have been as a glam rock. Now he is technically there. It's just he's. He's off like you can actually find him off off the beaten path.

1:05:20 Like there's like AI think you have to use a, a camera like hack or whatever, but he's actually behind I think Bonnie Bowl and he's like tore up and shit. And I'm like, I am really sad now cuz I don't know. Bonnie would have been cool. You did have a cool. Design. I won't. That's why. I'm like get rid of the Gator. But I will say the only thing that is funny about Monty is when he sees you and you just hear behind you. Hey little guy that killed that makes me laugh. Every time, my God. But no, it's security.

1:06:01 Rage is definitely a fun game. It's just there was no horror. Again, I'm fine with that. I'm not a horror person, but like, I understand why it's Five Nights at Freddy's. People want horror in their horror game. And they expect that. In their mascot horror game. Yeah, you can't, can't get away from that. No, they had the mascot but not the horror. In Mimic they had the horror but not the mascot. So now let's. Again, I'm the two. Again, I can, you know, this is my opinion. I can understand that is the mascot.

1:06:32 And you know, like big top Jackie, whatever. Like, I mean, especially Jackie was supposed to be the face. But like it's just there's to me, there's no mascot. Yeah, there's so many mascots that there's no mascots. And then? And also like. It just doesn't have an identity. And what beats, like, beating with, like, that horse here? But when I see Five Nights at Freddy's, I'm kind of expecting to see Freddy at some point. Yeah, now I know there was a big mask, I know, but that doesn't really count.

1:07:01 I know. That's what I was going to say too. It's like, yeah, I mean, like, you see Chica or you see Pirate Fox. Sorry, puppet Foxy. But that's not Foxy, that's a puppet. That's a puppet. Yeah, granted it was early Foxy, but it's still like fuck, if you can make chica into a suit, you can make the rest of them into a suit. If I see a fucking huge ass Freddie mask that you know is Freddie, you can look at it. Where is he? Like, I don't know, I, I just, it just feels like it. Yeah. It doesn't have.

1:07:30 Identity. You would need to have Freddie to exist before you make a big Freddie mask. Let's be honest, yeah? Like you would. Yes. You would need to create the character before you create a bigger version of it. Like you need to have a drawing somewhere, you need to have an animatronic, or like you know in this universe you need to have an animatronic first. That even makes me more mad. The design is there, where is. He I like. I do love Five Nights at Freddy's. I've been a fan since it came out.

1:08:01 Yes, ever since it came out when I was in high school. Exactly. No, I was my we. Were in middle school. I was in high school. When I came back, I was my junior year. Yeah. God. I know how time. Flies, I think they like pumped the first four games just like pump pump the first four games in like what, 2 years? Not even. And they you know, and besides like 3, like 3 was not well received but. There it was more of a lore game. That's looking back. And I mean, but all of them were decent games. The fact that they came out so quickly, I mean, I give Scott credit.

1:08:38 He knew what he was doing. He did and. He did a great fucking job. Like I still remember when fucking everybody knows Markiplier's video of the first FNAF. I remember. Saying that for the first. Time I know that was the that was like that was the first FNAF video I watched and I like I was, it sounds stupid, but like, you know, me being a 14 year old or whatever, I was like in my room and like if it was if it was like past 12:00 AM, I'm like, I can't leave my room. Yeah. Freddy's gonna get me. I'm gonna die.

1:09:12 And then like 6:00 happened. I'm like, I can pee. Oh, that no. And I think we should go. I'm sure people have had the similar experience but it's just so fucking funny. I can pee. And and that's the another thing to add before we we end the uncanniness of the first couple FNAF games. Yeah, that's also kind of lost. I would say 1-2 and three, not so much 4, but yeah. So much 4/4. I didn't hate it. I thought it was. I thought it was a fine game. No, it's a great Mechanically, it's a great game. But seeing the animatronics that scary.

1:10:00 They are they. Sorry. Go on. They're not scary. I like their designs. Though their designs are great. Because they're supposed to be nightmares. They're supposed to be like a dream state, kind of like. But that's where the uncanniness went away. That's what's really creepy is the uncanny like. Yeah, really. Should not be alive. I think it peeked at like toy Bonnie, because toy Bonnie. Creepy motherfucker. Yeah, I like his eyes and just like looking at you and I'm like. Fucking. As he like appears in your office.

1:10:34 With her chica, Jesus Christ her in front of you in the desk. I'm like. Oh my God. But but yeah, I think I think we're on that day here. This is this has been a good discussion on secular memory. I mean, going to the game, but like, I just wanted to kind of get my thoughts on it. Like just not Freddy's is my opinion. Yeah, it's the subtitle Secret of the Mimic. Yeah, you just X out the front, yeah. It's much more of a spin off. It kind of feels well. Yeah, I can see it. I just hope that they put the horror, the horror of Mimic and the, you know, the mascot of security whimsy together.

1:11:20 Yeah. The whimsy. Jesus Christ, I would love to see that. Like, it's scary. But then there's times they're like, oh, hey, buddy. Sorry. Yeah. Oh hey buddy. Truly you I'm. Waving at you. Also to add, still kind of ticked off that FNAF Plus did not become a thing. Five Nights at Freddy's Plus was a It was a fan game, but it was part of the. That initiative.

1:11:52 It looked good. OK, it was going to tell a a retelling of the first game, but more gritty. The animatronics were a hell of a lot scarier, but also still had the uncanny. So if you haven't seen this, look up the animatronics, you'll see what I mean. It was really weird to see Freddie with pants though.

1:12:18 There's like Patrick Starr, like, nothing on top, just pants. Oh, I think you can't look. At Smokey the Bear. Kind of yeah, kind of cuz the best, cuz Freddie also had the best. But no, it got it got, I don't want to say quietly cancelled. It got cancelled because of the developer.

1:12:42 There were a lot of controversial things. Nothing that's like, I want to say awful. It's been, it's been a while since this happened, but it was shut down by Scott and, you know, took it off Steam like it didn't come out yet, but they took the Steam page down and everything and it's gone. You don't see anything of it. And the only thing that's a remnant of it is the there were some developers that made a clone of it, which actually is pretty good, but it's not what it was going to be because there were VHS style like videos of this game.

1:13:21 Production was great. This sucked. When I got cancelled I was pissed. I'm like, why couldn't you be better? I will say, have you seen, have you seen FNAF in real time?

1:13:36 Yes, where you have to survive five nights at Freddy's for six hours. Actually, yeah, there's actually 6 real life hours. And during the. Five real nights. Well, one. One night. Well, yeah, and it was funny because like the the animatronic AI could vary wildly like. There's an episode. It could be like, it could be like Chica, like 4:00 AM. It could be AI to zero to 15 randomly and sometimes you can just roll the fucking cosmic dice on a zero and the AI just shuts down and doesn't do anything for an hour.

1:14:15 It's like or the age, at least as far as I know. Like last I heard like the AI just breaks and it's like Yep Bonnie and Chica are down. But then like an hour passes. Like next hour I was like bonnies active again. You're still dead. And like, I mean, that was a cool concept. You know. Like actual 6 real life it's. Just you need to have sausage. You can't just like sit at the desk and like, look at the animatronics for six hours. That's what makes the game so palpable to palpable to play. Yeah, is the fact that you're not there for six hours?

1:14:44 No, no, I think it's like. The first game is 10 minutes. It's like 10 minutes a night or. Something. But then they got, then they got slowly down to like 4 1/2. Yeah, Yeah. But anyway, I'm gonna close the discussion here. That was a pretty long episode, which I mean, I feel like my episodes are always the longest. This one had a lot of session. Very content rich. It is. It was. Yeah. And a nice mark yawn. And a nice fart chair. Yeah, I got very warm and that's cooling on. We had my we had my guest manager Mark and businessman Brandon.

1:15:20 I've been executive Ethan and we're you are free to unplug from this podcast. Go about your day and have fun. Tell us what you thought of The Secret of the Mimic and or just Five Nights at Freddy's in general and we'll see you in the next episode. Bye everybody.