FNAF Secret of the Mimic

0:10 Hello and welcome to Plug In for player Four.

0:12 I am your host executive, Ethan. This is manager Mark.

0:17 This is manager Mark. What am I?

0:22 Business bus boy Brandon. No, no, You're businessman,

0:25 Brandon. What do you mean?

0:27 Businessman Brandon. OK, that that that's.

0:31 Fine. We call you BB for short.

0:34 MMM. Now you're demoted to self

0:37 checkout clerk. Have fun.

0:40 What beep beep? You did it wrong.

0:44 What the fuck you demoted? Throw the potato.

0:48 Sir, I think you double skinned this son of a bitch.

0:50 What? The fuck was that, you son of a

0:56 bitch? Bitch.

1:00 I told you guys before we started recording, I can do

1:03 pretty good voices. Not 5 minutes ago he was doing

1:05 the My muscle man, my ma. It's so good.

1:12 I'm going to have a fucking headache.

1:17 Good. Anyway, what have we been up to

1:20 recently? Void Crew.

1:24 Yes. Void Crew, More Atlas trials.

1:26 I just put void crew on my wish list.

1:29 Fuck. You.

1:30 I'm going to buy a sand dude. It's fun.

1:32 Me. You.

1:33 Gunners. That's what I we're going to be

1:35 Gunners. You Gunners?

1:37 Yes, yes. I could use another gunner, I do

1:41 pretty. Well, we need more Dhaka.

1:45 I'm an engineer running around like a chicken with its head cut

1:48 off underneath the ship. Oh God, I feel bad every time

1:50 he's got to get out of the ship while I'm firing at shit.

1:53 Isn't there also like an exploration aspect?

1:56 So kinda, yeah, kinda you, you could do Eva type stuff like

2:00 there's objectives where you have to get out of the ship.

2:03 OK. And into a facility for oh

2:09 that's. A pizza sorry for for my mom, my

2:14 mom. But yeah, no, you have to get

2:16 outside the ship, go to into different facilities that do

2:20 objectives like collect data and stuff.

2:23 Or for me as an engineer, I have to get out into the hull and

2:27 pair hull breaches while we're under fire.

2:31 And the game sometimes, like, oh, personnel lock, let's lock

2:35 onto this lowly engineer outside the ship.

2:38 Yeah. So I'm carrying behind Brandon's

2:41 guns and I'm like, Brandon, save me.

2:44 Yeah, your toolbox. Over your shoulder wrenching

2:46 hand, you're just like must fix. Oh, and you you can burn to

2:51 death from the thrusters. There's two that's awesome.

2:54 So you have to watch. And you also got to be careful

2:57 on how you know you open the airlock and.

3:00 Because you can shut the atmosphere for the ship too.

3:03 Like literally it is pretty detailed.

3:05 It's a detailed. That's awesome actually.

3:07 It's so fucking fun. Dude.

3:10 That I'm dealing with electrical problems where it's like if I

3:13 hit the wrong key I get shocked. Oh, Jesus.

3:16 OK, freaking out inside the ship will pray it's like.

3:21 Oh, it's fucking fun. Jack's piloting, he's having a

3:24 good time, he's getting out, doing Eva stuff and I'm just

3:29 trying to keep the ship alive and.

3:31 Still blue sky, please do this. Exactly.

3:36 I'm loading up the Bissell pod for Jack to use in the pilot's

3:39 seat. I'm trying to keep Braden's

3:41 battery swapped. I'm trying to deal with

3:44 electrical problems and hull breaches.

3:46 I'm trying to keep the engine trim from the fucking ruining

3:50 our engine capabilities. I'm trying to keep thrusters

3:53 charge. I'm being a fucking busy Molly

3:56 downer to the ship. It's it can be a little

3:59 overwhelming, yeah, but like for me.

4:03 No, that sounds like what Mark was just describing.

4:05 That sounds like fun. Yes, it is like there's times

4:08 where I've got to swap my battery myself because he just

4:11 doesn't have time. Yeah, you know, so I got to get

4:13 out real quick. We're getting fired on fucking

4:15 ships. Lighten up, Red and shit.

4:17 You know, I think you'd have a good time with.

4:20 Her, you'd have a great time. See the rogue like aspect?

4:23 I'm like, that speaks to me, yes.

4:27 That's why I was telling Brandon to Jacob like Ethan would

4:30 fucking love this game because it's if it's so many different

4:33 archetypes that he just likes. It's also funny when at least I

4:38 think it's funny when the one time we lost.

4:41 So you get like an outside view of the ship and it's like

4:44 sitting there. And so that's just funny as

4:48 fuck. And then we get talked about on

4:51 the news when we get back to the hub.

4:54 That's awesome. These guys suck, yes.

4:57 It does happen, quite literally. They they say we suck like I'm

5:03 not bullshitting. That's awesome.

5:05 And that's a. Miracle that three people can

5:08 somehow figure out how to work a spaceship together in a matter

5:11 of minutes. Oh.

5:12 That, that, that talking shit. It's so good you would have fun.

5:19 All right, maybe we're no now, maybe we are playing this

5:22 tonight. Fuck your calm down guys.

5:27 Sorry. I should convince someone to get

5:29 it now. Yeah, it's.

5:31 It's like 6. It is.

5:32 Yes, it goes up to six players. It does, yeah.

5:37 I saw we can do allergic ship type now.

5:42 His face. I love this cake.

5:46 I do. Man if you could see his face

5:49 like jump scare on the screen or something Oh my God.

5:52 Yeah, you look like a fucking blow up though.

5:56 What? Do we?

5:58 His jaw drops. It's like the the mask or the

6:02 the the jaw drops to the floor and the tongue rolls out.

6:09 I just pop out of his head with the oh kiss out Salitha.

6:17 What were you doing before I die?

6:21 I I have been playing Secret of the Mimic and oh boy do I have a

6:26 lot to talk about this game, both good and bad.

6:29 A liar. I I wouldn't say so.

6:34 I heard that. Did you hear that?

6:37 Did. It feel good though.

6:40 Yeah, it didn't hurt. That's good.

6:42 You have to be careful man. You're pushing 30.

6:44 No, fuck you. It's OK Mr. Grams, you're almost

6:49 to your view. They have been playing Secret of

6:51 the Mimic and yes, initially it was a lot of bad, but I've

6:53 actually like kind of come around on it.

6:55 Not fully. There's still parts of it where

6:57 it's just. This is sounding a lot like

7:01 hostage syndrome. No, not really.

7:03 No, I actually, I actually enjoy what the game did.

7:06 Like now that I've 'cause this is going to be a major spoiler

7:10 episode because this is going to be all about Secret of the

7:13 Mimic, I really want to talk about this game.

7:17 So if you guys don't want spoilers, now is the time to

7:20 kind of back out. Yeah, this is This episode is

7:22 going to be all spoilers. But you know, it's almost been

7:25 out for a year. It will be a year in June.

7:27 Fair. I thought it was six months,

7:28 really a year. It's gonna in June.

7:31 Oh, in June. OK, so it's been.

7:32 Six months now, OK. Wait a minute.

7:35 Wait a minute, wait a mimic. I mean it's funny when like you

7:41 initially start the game, shut the fuck up when you initially.

7:47 Like you get by. When you initially start the

7:51 game, you get inside the building, you know, and they're

7:53 all like, now it's time to explore.

7:56 Like, you're ready. Like, yeah, it's like it's time

8:01 to open the door. That's just how this game is

8:07 going to be. Like the power shuts down and

8:08 everything. It's like, oh great, that's how

8:12 this game is going to be. I will.

8:20 Pull up on the classic tropes. I will say I do love how they

8:26 kind of use animatronics, what they were meant to be for, not

8:31 just for scary stuff in this game.

8:33 Yeah, like they use animatronics to be like, oh, yeah, this one

8:36 plays the drums. This one, you know, they all

8:38 move dancing, whatever. Like, Yeah, even like the what?

8:42 Miss Helpful or whatever her name is Miss Helper.

8:45 So there's miss. So Miss Helpful and Mr. Helpful.

8:49 Yeah, I mean either of them, but like especially miss helpful

8:52 like they're just like moving around talking like hey, you

8:56 stick your data diver and then like talk to them with whatever

9:01 permissions you have and they're like, hey, I see you're a

9:03 security personnel, you should help with customer relations and

9:07 all that kind of stuff while we try to fix the elevator.

9:11 I just want to put it out. I like the one at the end of the

9:13 game that I've seen you replay multiple times trying to

9:16 complete the game. I've done 6 playthroughs so far.

9:20 I like just at the end where he's like, yeah, let's run

9:23 through the statistics. Yeah, project over.

9:30 You have. Over 11 missed lone people.

9:36 You have 22 court summons only, 22 only.

9:40 Don't worry, you got this. Don't lose hope.

9:46 Yeah, I kind of want to go like through the game from like the

9:49 start to the end, though, like just to have like a linear

9:51 progression, like, I mean like so far.

9:54 What are your thoughts on this guy's?

9:55 I mean especially you Mark, you haven't, I assume you haven't

9:58 like really seen much or. I've I've seen you play through

10:01 parts of it. I've seen you speed.

10:03 Run it, yes. And speed run loosely because

10:06 there's like 40 minute speed run.

10:08 So I've seen yeah, yeah. But like, I've like speed ran

10:11 out of the game was intended to be played, Yeah, in like 2 1/2

10:15 hours, yeah. Yeah, it's pretty.

10:16 It's pretty short, Yeah. Which originally I wasn't like

10:20 too big of a fan of because like, oh, it's short.

10:22 Like, yeah, this game is $40. It's you know, if you if you

10:26 literally just if, if you know what you're doing and you play

10:29 the game as intended, you can literally get through this game

10:32 like two 2 1/2 hours depending on the ending.

10:34 It's like yes, 40 bucks. I play for two hours.

10:38 But you're really not because you're still exploring the

10:40 mechanics, exploring the area, you know, you don't know where

10:43 to go. It's like we're like, how to

10:46 deal with the mimic just yet. Like you, you're still figuring

10:49 everything out. Yeah.

10:50 So you're you're. While collecting any

10:52 collectibles or listening to any audio tapes or whatever, reading

10:55 the mail as you go along the way?

10:58 Yeah. Yeah, I, I want to say as

11:01 somebody who's not really played the games, but I'm kind of

11:05 familiar with the progression of how the games evolved over time.

11:10 Yes, I'm, I'm very confused on the pivot from how traditional

11:16 you would view the genre with just how you're sitting at your

11:19 desk and you're monitoring the screens.

11:25 You're just keeping them away from you and managing your power

11:29 towards for, for me, what was a sudden shift was security breach

11:34 with now there's an actual linear narrative and you're not

11:39 at the desk. You're kind of running around

11:41 kind of like it's an adventure game, open world exploration

11:46 type crap. Well that's the thing, you can

11:48 only realistically do the same. You are locked in place so many

11:53 times. Granted, there was like hundreds

11:56 of clones. Yeah, clones, whether they were

11:59 good or bad, like candies or one of my favorites, Popeye.

12:05 No Pop goes, Pop goes. Yeah, pop goes was one of my

12:07 favorites. Like no matter what it is like

12:10 good or bad or just like there was hundreds of them.

12:12 Like what is the? Period of the market.

12:15 No, I mean, like I said, there was good and bad ones.

12:17 Like for another one, for example, is one night at

12:19 Flumpty's that's like, oh, that's so that's one of the best

12:22 ones. I just I will say for one night

12:25 at Flumpty's there was some controversial information about

12:30 the developer. No.

12:32 So just, you know. But that doesn't take away from

12:36 the fact that one night at Flumpty's is fucking great.

12:39 Yes and I am so mad that because they put the bevel the Beaver in

12:44 the owl from the first and second games together to make

12:46 the bee vowel. Because they both use toilets.

12:49 One stands out of urinal 1 is in the toilet.

12:51 They could have called it the bowel.

12:54 That is so. Fucking I know, such a missed

12:58 opportunity. I guess from my perspective of

13:03 Five Nights at Freddy's, I'm more the like, I like the

13:07 traditional, like you're sitting at the desk doing like the

13:11 cameras and it's like you're managing your power, you know?

13:15 It's just a new age of games. It was a new.

13:18 We're in the steel wool era, yeah.

13:19 Yes, we're not in the Scott era anymore.

13:22 No, yeah. Well.

13:24 I mean, that's the progression of franchises.

13:27 You have to adapt or die. And it as much as it's like, OK,

13:32 it is adapting, it's just I don't play the game.

13:35 So seeing content from both is like a huge jump.

13:41 Oh yeah, it's. Not having like the background

13:44 knowledge that you guys have on what's going on.

13:46 I mean, my thing is that like while I do like the traditional

13:49 sit down, like I like 1/2 and kind of ultimate custom night,

13:57 like I've dabbled in pretty much everyone but Pizzeria SIM and.

14:01 Did you play 4? For a little bit I did not play

14:05 for long because I did. I just couldn't, can't handle

14:08 like how quiet everything was. But then the jump scares were

14:12 loud as shit. It was I I can't do it loud.

14:15 I know when when Scott released the 4th game, yeah there was a

14:20 problem with the breathing of the animatronics being too quiet

14:27 and then the like you said the jump scare is like Jesus fucking

14:30 Christ. I know he put out a patch I

14:33 think like a day later or something.

14:34 I mean, I played this over on Game Pass, so this was not this

14:38 was, this was not initial launch.

14:40 OK. So yeah.

14:41 For sure. Well, because that's a

14:43 persisting issue then. It's just, that's the thing with

14:46 that game, you like it, that that in particular will force

14:50 you to wear headphones. Yes, because you have to listen

14:53 for things even the tiniest like audio clues like the game will

14:56 tell you everything you need to know.

14:58 Yes, if if you know what the clues are, even if it's like the

15:02 the animatronics moving around, shuffling like getting into the

15:05 closet, yes, it's like it's just that, but then like the the

15:08 screens are just so loud in comparison because you are

15:10 really like. You really listen.

15:13 Yeah. And then like, since you're so

15:15 focused on listening, you get what?

15:17 And you're like, whoa. And that's, and I think that

15:21 like, that's the whole point of it, Yeah.

15:23 If like, you fucked up, you fucked up.

15:25 And it was, it was just too scary for that reason, 'cause I

15:28 was dedicating all my brain power to listening that like.

15:31 And you're also like. Like I don't know, like hyper

15:34 focus. Hyper focus and also anxious as

15:36 shit because you don't know you know.

15:38 Is Bonnie at this door? Yeah.

15:42 I prefer one and two. Yeah, one and two.

15:48 Those are my favorites out of the.

15:50 One, if you there's a. There's a coffin arrow.

15:54 Yeah, there's a video, excuse me, on YouTube from, I believe

16:00 his name is Scruffy. You went over in great detail

16:04 the audio of the first FNAF. Yeah, we kind of talked about

16:09 that before. Jesus Christ.

16:11 Yeah, there's a lot like. Perfect.

16:13 It was, although. Sorry, go on.

16:17 I love that again, you had the audio cues and shit, like in the

16:22 office when you're off the cameras, you can actually hear

16:24 Chica in the kitchen. Yeah.

16:26 Which then tells you, OK, so she's in the kitchen, I don't

16:29 have to check the camera for a second.

16:30 Yeah, no, no more worrying about her like.

16:32 You're yeah, bouncing everything, you know, and and

16:39 that I would say that game still to this day is scary.

16:45 No, no, for sure. The first one is, I mean this.

16:47 I feel like the second one is scary for its own reason.

16:49 Like there's so many animatronics, but also just the

16:52 way the animatronics are portrayed is kind of dumb.

16:56 But I do want to get back to this.

16:57 I want to kind of want to talk about the other games in

17:00 relation to Secret of the Mimic at the end.

17:02 But like going back to the Secret of the Mimic, like you're

17:06 starting to go around this area that you like, this kind of main

17:11 area, like the main office that you talk to, to dispatch about.

17:15 Yeah, because you're you've been up for 36 hours at least, which

17:20 is like, that's kind of what like emergency services people

17:24 deal with. Yeah, if you're used to that,

17:26 you're used to it. But like.

17:28 Even then, like. Yeah, it can take a toll.

17:30 You can. So he so this guy's dead tired

17:33 and every single time he talks, he's like, man, I, I can't, I

17:37 can't do this. I need sleep like this is using

17:43 no man, you got this. You can.

17:45 You don't work for that $25.00 gift card, which actually

17:49 somebody did the math and 1979 to today that would be $111.00

17:56 gift card, which doesn't sound too bad now does.

17:59 It doesn't sound that bad, but at the same time.

18:02 You have to deal with a fucking. 36 hours come on end to end.

18:07 But it's a gift card, you can spend it anywhere.

18:09 And then you also have to to get that gift card, you have to try

18:12 to not get mangled by the mimic. But also, dispatch who's talking

18:18 to you is the mimic. Yes.

18:20 So you're not getting like that $25.00 gift card.

18:22 It's not happening. Yeah.

18:24 But yeah, like then and then, like, you know, you're starting

18:28 to walk around, you figure out your first encounter with the

18:31 Mimi can get past him. And I will say this is my

18:35 problem with the game is that this is mascot horror.

18:39 Yes. This is what Five Nights at

18:40 Freddy's is. It's just mascot horror.

18:42 Yes, Yes. The mimic is kind of the mascot

18:45 of the game. Technically there's Jackie,

18:47 still a mimic, but still a mimic.

18:49 Yeah, there's the mimic uses so many different costumes.

18:54 I feel like it just doesn't have an identity.

18:56 I know it is the mimic, like the mimic has an identity of itself,

19:00 but it using the costumes and you not really seeing the mimic

19:03 in his pure form. Just I me personally, I don't

19:08 recognize it as the mimic and it just doesn't seem like there is

19:12 a mascot. It's just a bunch of mishmash

19:14 characters. Which, yeah, in in that aspect,

19:18 yeah. Yeah.

19:19 Cuz honestly it would have been kind of nice to see the mimic in

19:22 its form with no costume. I mean, you do in in certain

19:25 parts of the game, but. It should have been.

19:27 More This is at the end, yeah. That's the thing, I think it

19:30 should have been more. Right, that's what I'm saying.

19:34 Cuz just just the mimic itself, it just the endoskeleton, that

19:37 fucking thing's creepy as shit. It is and that's what I would

19:40 love to see more is like cuz again, you just, you get to see

19:43 more of the characters that it's portraying because it, it can in

19:50 the game, it says when it gets into a suit, it takes the

19:54 personality of that suit. Granted, there's so many

19:58 different small characters that it takes over.

20:01 Like not like the big chasing characters, but like the small

20:03 characters that it just doesn't really talk or it just makes

20:06 sounds really. Oh yeah.

20:10 Then you get to Jackie and it's like, Oh my God, who wants you a

20:12 birthday hug and like all that kind of stuff.

20:15 And like, this is like kind of the first boss of the game and.

20:20 Fuck it. Jackie, honestly, it's, it's

20:23 cool because like, the Mimic is strong.

20:25 It is strong and durable as hell.

20:28 But yeah, Jackie's arms are just so long and loose that it

20:32 doesn't know how to control it. Yep.

20:35 Yeah, that that just made that. That just would look so fucking

20:38 weird, you know? Right, Because the mimic does

20:41 not have stretchy arms and this, God, that would be so fucking

20:44 awkward. I'm trying to do that running

20:47 after you on like those catwalks or whatever, you know?

20:49 But The thing is, Jackie doesn't have legs, so it has to solely

20:53 rely on it's really long arms. And as you're running you just

20:56 see the arms next to you and shit.

20:58 Oh my God. Which it's funny because I've

21:01 watched some videos on. The third person perspective.

21:06 What you don't see? Yeah.

21:08 And I wanna watch those. They're not as close as you

21:11 think they. Are.

21:12 No, not at all. It's just the illusion.

21:14 That's usually what those kind of games do.

21:18 Trust me, I've kind of learned that with a certain character

21:21 that I'm gonna get to cuz I fucking hate them.

21:25 I know which one are you talking about FC playing against but.

21:28 But yeah, I, I love, I also just love how like you have to use

21:30 the data diver to like upgrade your permissions to get to other

21:34 areas in the game. Like that's just such a cool

21:36 concept for. Me, it adds like a sort of like

21:39 Alien vibe to it. Like I'm not, I'm not talking

21:44 like like Alien. Oh, it's, it's Aliens.

21:47 I'm talking about like Alien the franchise with the old tech.

21:51 Yes. Like like, like it feels very

21:53 seventies, 80s. Esque.

21:55 Well, that's because like it. Yeah, I.

21:56 Know, I know it takes place at that.

21:58 Point. Yeah, and like you.

21:59 It it feels like it fits in with with that sort of aesthetic.

22:03 Yeah. I mean, it's just all these like

22:04 it's these big bulky machines. Big bulky hard plastic grey

22:09 white machine. You have to work with and like

22:12 even even you see that little screen pop up for like, Oh yeah,

22:15 you do this to upgrade your permission and it's just the

22:18 most janky piece of shit ever. And it's like you get like 4

22:23 frames a second. It's like, oh man, that's great.

22:26 And like what our parents dealt with.

22:29 And like when you plug in the data diver and turn it whatnot,

22:32 it's like. Yep.

22:34 Like the the loading bar is just so uneven and everything and it

22:37 just takes forever. And even opening a door, closing

22:40 a door, it's like, come on, come on, he's after me.

22:43 Close. The door.

22:44 Oh Yep Yep, like that shit sucks.

22:48 Just the semi reliable technology.

22:51 Yeah. But I I kind of got a like a

22:57 kick out of I guess like towards the the like true ending.

23:01 I guess where you're, you go into like kind of a replica or

23:05 like a like work in progress like Freddy's.

23:10 Yeah, I do want to get to that. I was going to say, like going

23:15 to the next bus is probably my favorite is Big Top.

23:20 And like, this is another like, Music Man kind of character.

23:23 And it's just like his Jingle when he's like happy La, La La,

23:28 like, oh, give me your ticket tickets, please.

23:31 And it like the lights are on the mannequin server.

23:34 But like just like the way he's like not attacking you and like

23:37 the music is super fast and whatnot.

23:39 You play a game and it's like, all right, cool, you got a

23:41 ticket now go spin that wheel powers down.

23:44 There's like all the music slowed down and there's a

23:47 totally different tone. And he's like looking around,

23:49 scanning the area for you. And it's like, man.

23:53 And like just how big he is, the way he looks, how he's like just

23:58 portrayed and everything like his multiple arms, just like

24:01 every music man does. And it's just how he's portrayed

24:05 is just fucking perfect. I love the fact that like the

24:09 his teeth, like his mouth is like the the way he plays the

24:12 music. Yes, you know, he he was he he's

24:17 cool. I just that section for me was

24:20 highly annoying but that's probably honestly that's on me

24:25 and not necessarily the game. I would say I think the game I

24:30 maybe I just didn't pay attention, but I feel like the

24:32 game could have done a better job at explaining what you're

24:35 supposed to do. Yes.

24:37 Cuz I had to look up what I'm supposed to do.

24:40 Yeah, once I completed the first game, I'm like, I can't play any

24:43 more games. I can't spin this wheel.

24:44 What am I supposed to do? Yep, You're supposed to go

24:47 around back to that flux. I'm not mean that flux, but like

24:51 that liquid thing, pull the lever and then like try to do it

24:55 in time before big Top scares you.

25:00 And like I'm just like, what do I do?

25:02 Yeah. Do I do anything?

25:04 Do I just have to like press a button?

25:08 No, you literally have to like go sneak around all the way

25:10 around and then get there, do the whole thing and then you can

25:13 play another game. Repeat that like 3 fucking

25:15 times, which was kind of annoying but it's like getting

25:19 that phase shift between he's all nice and dandy and he's like

25:23 after you is like. What's?

25:25 Pretty cool. It's perfect.

25:27 Like, yeah, I I think that was probably my problem was that the

25:30 game really didn't tell you. No, this is what you need to do.

25:33 It did not. And I'm like, OK.

25:37 Yeah, I was kind of pissed at that too.

25:40 But no, I I do like the way that they did big top.

25:44 He's just and he just overall his appearance and everything

25:48 was just cool as shit. Oh my God, you.

25:50 Know and his chase, you know, is pretty cool too.

25:52 It's just it's just randomized. And it's short.

25:56 It is short, like the the first part is randomized and it's kind

25:59 of annoying because like you get up to the top or the roof and

26:03 then go inside and then he chases you down a stairwell.

26:07 But then you get into like the offices kind of area and like

26:11 just he'll block certain ways or certain doors will be closed and

26:14 it's randomized even I'm dead, I think.

26:17 And it's just so annoying because like, want you one

26:21 playthrough or time you can go one way and another playthrough

26:24 or time you can go a different way.

26:26 And it's like, well, which way can I go?

26:28 And then he stomps his hand down and like, oh, can't you actually

26:30 go that way? And then you really got to

26:32 figure out where you're supposed to go because the door next to

26:34 you is blocked. And it's like, well, what are I

26:36 got? Jump scare?

26:37 Yep. No, I just I think from when I I

26:43 watched 8 bit Ryan play. Yeah, this and the thing he

26:48 brought up about Big Top was all of that build up with him for

26:53 kind of little was kind of upsetting.

26:56 I know. I wish I got to see you so much

26:58 more of Big Top he was. He's just such an interesting

27:01 character. Yes, it I think they could have

27:05 done better with him with just when he's outside of that area

27:10 that you first see him. Yeah, like, I mean, you saw him

27:14 jump across these pillars on the roof and you're like, what the

27:18 hell is he doing? Yeah, that, that was pretty

27:20 cool. I'm not gonna.

27:21 Fuck, that was just. Sees mother fucker.

27:23 Oh shit, it's so fucking close. To you he does, and he doesn't

27:28 like grab you and squeeze you to death like a crushed can.

27:31 He's like. No, he just gets real close,

27:33 like, hey, what's up? Is that him like an Ant with

27:40 sorry, a person with a magnifying glass looking at an

27:42 Ant? Tickets please.

27:44 Tickets please. See that?

27:46 That's how you make you make them your friend.

27:48 You just give them the ticket. Yeah, be like, thank you.

27:50 Goes up, back up. Well, the funny part is like

27:56 there's a point where you're walking on the roof and like a

28:00 ticket just like flutters down from the ceiling and it's just

28:02 like, oh, no, he's back. I don't think he's gonna accept

28:08 this ticket. He picked it up.

28:10 It's past that point. Yeah, he's best.

28:14 No, I that was probably one of the the best thing in Secret of

28:22 the Mimic was with Big. Top.

28:23 I did not like Jackie. I loved Big Top.

28:26 Yeah, Jackie's. I feel like Jackie was wasted

28:29 potential. Yeah.

28:31 There's only so much you can do with long arms.

28:34 Yes. Person like, generic long like,

28:36 generic stretchy person like. Yeah, well.

28:38 What about? What about the nurse?

28:42 It's I don't hate it like Jackie and I don't love it like Big

28:45 Tub. OK, but it's still pretty good.

28:47 I mean, I will say, what do you think of Big Tub Mark?

28:50 Like you just seen him because you've seen him a couple.

28:52 Times. I've seen him a couple times.

28:54 I really wish you could see more of him though.

28:57 Right? Like especially in the elevator.

28:59 I think, yeah, I think that's the big problem because like you

29:02 eventually do see him and he gets like super close to his

29:05 upside down climbing, but then everything falls and crashes,

29:07 yes. Yeah.

29:10 Like even during that, you don't get any opportunities to be able

29:13 to look up and see him. You're just focused so much on

29:15 the levers. You don't get to see any of the

29:17 characters really. I mean, yet Dolly is probably

29:20 the one you get to see the most, yes?

29:23 But even like what? The game is named after the

29:26 mimic, yeah, and you barely see him.

29:30 Well, Jackie, that's the mimic. Big Top, that's the mimic Dolly,

29:34 that's the mimic. Like it is the mimic because.

29:37 Or even even even with like a like you've mentioned the

29:42 Fazbear sort of like section, not even seeing any more like

29:49 the the series named characters and like prototype stages.

29:53 You really don't. I mean, the most the character

29:55 get to see the most is Chica, which is fine.

29:58 That's fine, yeah. But Chica, yeah.

30:01 Because, you know, you go through the section with Dolly

30:04 and I'm not gonna like Glaze over this thing, but it's

30:06 actually like really cool. I have to like how she's like

30:09 walking around and everything. I mean, first you have to build

30:11 the suit and like, that's an OK section.

30:15 I yeah, I really don't like the play.

30:17 It's just you have to like actively play and you know, it's

30:20 just, you just shoot things and you're just standing there not

30:22 really doing much. And if you die, you have to

30:25 restart the whole thing over again.

30:29 Granted, just not too hard. But then you get to the section

30:31 with Dolly because she's like, Oh well, oh, we seem to you seem

30:34 to have a foreign object inside of you and you have to scoop

30:37 that out of you and bleach you and turning into paste.

30:41 Like dear God. There are 4000 other tickets

30:47 ahead of you. Luckily, there's 4625 other

30:50 things ahead of you all. Right.

30:52 Bye. OK, I'm gone.

30:55 Yeah. And then like, you know, you

30:56 have, you have to like walk around this like really like

30:59 tight area trying to find all these cubes you have to put in

31:02 the dispenser or whatever. Yes.

31:07 And then that whole, that whole thing with her being in like

31:10 lava, like getting out, like literally like burning the wall

31:14 to get out. I'm like.

31:15 That was kind of. Jesus, that was kind of cool.

31:18 Yeah, OK, there's a That's a strong motherfucker.

31:22 If it is mad. If you can dunk them in lava and

31:25 they don't die. Yeah, no, like I like I said

31:28 before, I just, I I wanted to see the mimic more without

31:33 costumes. Yes.

31:34 That's what I meant. No, I get.

31:36 Mimic is there. I get you, but you don't see it

31:39 as the mimic, you see it as Dolly because it takes the

31:42 personality of what it's inside. So me being the person I am,

31:49 that's me associating Dolly with Dolly, not the mimic.

31:56 Even even if it would give you more of an indication that this

31:59 is something else inside of the suit.

32:03 I mean it. I mean it.

32:04 Well, it kind of it kind of does because the the eyes.

32:07 True. Yeah, the eyes, I mean, a lot of

32:09 the a lot of the Google bosses as people call them in this

32:13 game, which are, you know, like Dolly, Jackie, whatever, you

32:19 don't get to see the mimics eyes.

32:20 There's a lot of other areas where you do get, oh excuse me,

32:24 see the mimics eyes? Yeah, like Jackie.

32:27 You can see his eyes. Yeah, when she starts to get

32:30 broken up, yes. But no, I wanted to see more of

32:34 the just the mimic itself and yeah it's endoskeleton form cuz

32:38 that now that's fucking creepy. I wanna see it because of how

32:43 strong and durable it is. It's like you, you are a frame.

32:49 You wonder. You can't.

32:51 You shouldn't be that strong. Because not even the the later

32:57 animatronics like Freddie Bonnie Chica, they're nowhere near as

33:00 durable as him. Don't.

33:01 God no. I mean, you saw how they got

33:04 off. Well, in like the second game,

33:06 you know, they got tore up because they had their

33:09 technology ripped out. And I mean, that's because of,

33:11 you know, people. But like, yeah no, the Mimic is

33:16 strong as fuck. It's like, it's just like why?

33:18 Why is this endoskeleton so? Strong, yeah.

33:23 I don't know if they ever say if you're looking online, what it's

33:29 made of it. Has to be like vibranium myself.

33:33 It's just something that's stronger than steel, which that

33:37 doesn't. I don't think that.

33:38 Exists. I don't think so.

33:41 I don't know what could be stronger.

33:43 Well, there are things, but there's nothing as like

33:46 economically viable. Yeah.

33:48 OK. That's definitely the thing.

33:50 Like it also really just depends on how different strength is.

33:56 So there's tensile strength, there's compressive strength,

33:59 there's just different ways that something could be strong.

34:03 This has all of it. Yeah.

34:06 This literally has all of it. He was able to punch a door down

34:10 with its bare fist in its mimic form.

34:15 And like you said it, it didn't fucking melt.

34:17 No it didn't. Like what the fuck?

34:21 Like what? Like lava was, you could see

34:25 lava dripping off it and cooling off on the ground below.

34:27 And it's just like, how are you moving right now?

34:31 How is your circuitry not destroyed?

34:34 The fucking. Terminator couldn't last in

34:37 lava. No, it could.

34:39 What the fuck I? Gave you a thumbs up shot

34:43 though. But not it's.

34:47 It's just, it's wild. How?

34:48 Yeah, it's just like, that's the one thing that doesn't make

34:51 sense to me, is like, yeah, I think his name is Edwin.

34:54 Edwin. Edwin built this machine and

34:56 he's like, yeah, I'm not able to replicate this.

34:59 I don't know what you want me to do.

35:00 I cannot do it. This can be done a second time.

35:03 Yes. And it just, it plays God.

35:07 It just plays God. He, he like, I mean, it was

35:11 revolutionary for the time, but it's like, my guy, you made

35:15 something that can mimic anything and then you're asked

35:18 the size. And I understand he was upset

35:20 because his kid got killed. That I understand completely

35:23 100%. But you beat the fucking

35:25 animatronic with a goddamn metal pipe.

35:28 What do? You think it was going to do,

35:31 you know? Like I'm a mimic for a reason.

35:33 And then now it's like, Oh well, I guess that's OK to do punch

35:37 like. I best stick like my dad after 5

35:40 bottles of beer. Like my thing is where does it

35:43 get this power from? Because there there can't be one

35:47 power supply because it can't remove that without powering

35:50 down, it can't replace that. I don't know if there if if

35:54 there's some type of like recharge mode this thing has.

35:59 Maybe. Shuts down.

36:00 Been alive for six hours. And also alive for another 60

36:04 years. Yeah, that's true.

36:05 So I mean, I mean video game logic.

36:09 Yeah. But but it makes you think like

36:11 how? Because eventually you've got a

36:13 power. The things got to power down.

36:15 Yeah, no, for sure. You know.

36:17 He's got to just like just cut heap of trash on the floor.

36:20 Yeah, no, that'd be funny, the things coming after you and you

36:22 just see it slowly go down it's eyes turn off fucking falls over

36:29 funny. Yeah, bitch.

36:33 Nah, I I that that's honestly a really good question that

36:36 that's. I mean, I'm sure it's explained

36:38 on the book Remnant. It's Remnant.

36:39 I'm sure it's explained in the books, but like.

36:42 Oh that's right, there are books on the Mimic isn't?

36:44 There's books on everything, I believe.

36:46 Yeah, The Mimic, there's books on Into the Pit.

36:49 There's. I know there's the twisted ones

36:51 which are like kind of separate. I wouldn't know.

36:54 All I just know is that like a lot of these newer games are

36:58 based off the books. Yes, but going back to the

37:01 secret of the mimic where we at Dolly.

37:04 So what's what was the next section?

37:06 I think it was Chica. You're in like Chica, the horses

37:10 are rolling around on rollerblades and everything.

37:13 That was actually pretty cool. I liked the the two sections I

37:15 like the most was the one where Chico's on rollerblades and he

37:18 had to like, go around collecting these, like two

37:21 pieces. Yeah.

37:22 And the one where you had to like, sneak around Big Top.

37:25 Yes. I just liked how you had to like

37:27 there was an active threat in the center of the room or, you

37:29 know, whatever. Moving around.

37:31 Like there was an active threat moving around.

37:33 You had a lot of space, but if you messed up, you're done.

37:36 Yes. Like.

37:38 Yeah, like it was a as a fair challenge.

37:42 Yeah, because the next section with Chica is you're in the

37:45 offices. Yes.

37:46 And you have the width for one person in an animatronic suit,

37:52 there's not much space to move around.

37:54 And if you're caught, you are you're.

37:55 Oh, you're. Fucked.

37:56 They're they're, yeah. Now it is very claustrophobic.

38:00 That's this guy. A warm, warm and cozy.

38:09 Before you know you're going to start hearing snoring, yeah.

38:12 This man EBBB is going to go Betty Bay on and to let me read

38:17 you a bedtime story. Goodbye me.

38:21 Hugs, new. Hugs new.

38:27 But I mean, Chica wasn't really anything to write home about.

38:29 It was really cool that you got to see Chica and like kind of

38:32 like a as a stuffed suit instead of like a like a hard shell just

38:38 kind of deal. Yeah, it was like a complete,

38:41 like, you could tell it was still Chica, but like, as soon

38:44 as you saw her, yes, that's Chica.

38:47 Fuck, I got to run because she burst out of the crate and

38:50 everything. But like, you just see her and

38:51 you're like, man, that's actually a pretty cool, you

38:55 know, rendition of her being in the 1980s, seventies.

38:59 Yeah, yeah. There's something with Chica I

39:02 remember, like I don't know if it was like like the game

39:06 glitched out or something, but you can actually have it where I

39:11 don't know if it's if you get into the room too early like by

39:14 just like hacking the game or whatever, that Chica will

39:17 despawn so she won't actually come out of the crate or

39:21 something. It'll just bust open.

39:24 You can also accidentally unload the level or that section if you

39:30 because I think the way that the the game works is when you leave

39:34 a section. Yeah.

39:35 It unloads. It unloads and there was

39:38 somebody I was watching that did that.

39:40 Did you just see Chica fall this?

39:42 Void probably some like kind of like Tera 8 bit or whatever.

39:46 Eight. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

39:49 It was like a. Has like the four bars yeah, the

39:53 four colored bars yes. I think that's like Tera 8 bit

39:55 or something. Yes he he tries to glitch the

39:59 game out hardcore. Yeah, and he finds out.

40:01 And he also finds like, like different genres of games, like

40:07 their development or, you know, like stuff that's cut.

40:11 It was just, it was just funny to see Chica just falling in the

40:13 vault. There's still a lot I want to

40:16 like watch people like I definitely want to watch Astro

40:18 Astro Spiff play it. Like I do love Markiplier, but

40:21 like Astro Spiff, I feel like it doesn't matter the game.

40:25 He plays a lot of FNAF but it doesn't matter the game.

40:27 He puts a lot of energy into this like but not too much.

40:29 He's not like over the top, yes. And like I said, with

40:35 Markiplier, he, you know, he's like after finishing it, like

40:39 it's not him, it's not for him. Well, no, actually, when he

40:43 finished it, he was like, I, I like the direction that they

40:45 took. I like this.

40:46 Really. Yeah.

40:47 No, actually at the end he was like, I like this game.

40:49 I like the direction they took. Oh, that it was is completely

40:54 opposite of what you think. But I want to talk about the

41:00 next the next area you get to because you get the admin

41:03 permissions and then you finally see Chica chasing you down the

41:06 hallway and like, oh God, close the door.

41:07 Oh yeah, right, right, right. So oh, yeah, you also have like,

41:13 the goodbye show, which is pretty funny.

41:15 And like, Big Top again comes back and chases you.

41:18 It's like, how many times I'm going to see this man before

41:20 he's destroyed Like, which I'm glad he brought.

41:23 They brought him back. It's pretty cool.

41:25 But then you get to the White Tiger section.

41:28 Oh. Oh, that.

41:30 Section This is a section he. Hates.

41:31 I hate this section. So much.

41:34 This I do. This section is.

41:36 Bad because sometimes the tigers like all right, you've been,

41:41 you've been in the shadows long enough, die.

41:43 And other times, like I'll give you a couple more seconds to run

41:46 over to that light or the light, like as you're running towards

41:49 the light, the light turns off and you're only safe in the

41:52 lights. Yes.

41:53 And it's just like, it's just kind of random, kind of not, but

41:57 kind of random, unlike how the lights operate.

41:59 It's like, can we can we have like some form of whatever?

42:03 Yeah. And there was a time where, like

42:05 I was running towards a place, the light turned off and I'm

42:07 like, well, I'm just dead. So I just stood in the darkness

42:10 and he teleports faster and faster until he eventually just

42:13 kills you. And sometimes he just kills you

42:16 fast when he teleports, like just early on.

42:18 And I was like, pick a time. Like, yeah, but yeah, he like, I

42:23 just stood there and he was like, teleport, teleport,

42:25 teleport, teleport just around me.

42:27 And I'm like, you're not killing me.

42:28 What is happening? And then, like, dead.

42:31 I mean, that took way too long to kill me because he was

42:34 literally like, left side, right side, front, like back behind

42:36 me. I'm like, oh fuck, right.

42:38 Fuck. Oh yeah, I remember.

42:40 That no, you don't remember that because I didn't do that.

42:42 I did that on another discord. You did that.

42:45 Yeah, I'm going to have to show you guys because it's so fucking

42:48 stupid if he does it again. Like I'm like, that was the time

42:51 where I'm just like, OK, I figured out your AI kind of.

42:54 You're less, you're way less scary.

42:56 It's more so the area that gives me anxiety because I could just

43:00 die on one run and another one I could just fly right through it.

43:04 Yeah, see, I don't, I don't like that where there's no fucking

43:07 consistency with the. AI and that's what gives me

43:10 anxiety it's like am I going to make it through this time or am

43:13 I going to die and it's like and.

43:15 That's just that's frustrating. It is very, I mean especially

43:21 like because you also like see him a couple times throughout

43:24 the game before this, you have like 2 encounters or whatever

43:27 yes. And it's just like well, he

43:29 doesn't do anything. He just like looks at you.

43:30 He's like poof, like what's up? Hey poof, how you doing?

43:35 You got games on your phone? God.

43:39 My farts on the floor. Yeah, I fucking I fucking hate

43:47 that section so much. Yeah, I didn't like watching AP

43:53 and Ryan do it. I like, I don't like this

43:56 section. This is not new.

43:58 I did not like playing this section.

44:00 To this day I've done 6 play throughs.

44:04 I have not done this alone. I have always had streamed it

44:08 and had somebody watch it because fuck that section.

44:13 It gives me so much anxiety. Yeah, now that's I, I don't know

44:19 at at this point I'm going to continue my playthrough because

44:22 I, I know how everything. Is at this point, I mean that's

44:25 fine like I'm not. I will say it sucks having to do

44:28 6 playthroughs this I'm going to get to why I've done 6 play

44:32 because this game, it's not built well for 100%, which as

44:40 you guys should know, I am a achievement hunter.

44:43 Yeah, this game kind of makes you want to put a achievement

44:45 hunting on the back burner and just play games for fun.

44:50 Honestly, probably a good thing. Take.

44:51 A little break from. It I'm going to get more into

44:53 that later, but like, yeah. And just now we're going to get

44:57 to where what we've been talking about kind of a lot is when you

45:01 do the. I think the Canon ending is

45:04 called Yeah, because. Because if you were to leave

45:06 now, it's 4:00 AM. Yes.

45:09 And you're like, wait a minute, No, these games end at six.

45:11 Yeah, wait a minute, this is wrong.

45:13 And then by the time you get into the the FNAF one location

45:16 and you get like inside the whatever, it's 5:00 AM.

45:21 Yes. So that's a pretty cool detail.

45:23 It's like, wait, the the game's ending, you look at the clock,

45:26 it's 4 P 4:00 AM. And it's just like, no, no,

45:29 there's still more time. This is this is wrong.

45:32 And if you were to go for that ending, like the 4:00 AM ending,

45:35 it's it's like, all right, yeah. Give give me back your data to

45:39 everyone. You can.

45:39 You can feel free to go. Your truck is right there.

45:42 That's not where I parked my truck.

45:45 Why is my truck there? Why is my truck in the garage?

45:50 It's outside. That's not my truck.

45:57 And that's when you it was that when you figure out that

46:01 dispatch was not actually dispatch.

46:03 You find that out like 2:00 AM actually, okay because it's like

46:08 hey, how you doing? Yeah, but then the actual

46:11 dispatch is like, what the fuck? Yeah.

46:14 We've been trying to reach you for hours.

46:16 We're terminating your. We've been trying to reach you

46:19 for your cars extended warranty. And then you and they give the

46:23 literally they gave the mimic the fucking data driver.

46:25 Yeah. And then now the dispatch, like,

46:27 what the fuck man, would you put that, you know, we're docking

46:30 your payers or some, Yeah. It's like I gave it to you.

46:33 You were talking to me. Our lawyers are going to reach

46:35 out to you very soon. Yeah, that he just dies, so it

46:38 doesn't matter anyway. Yeah, those lawyers reached out

46:42 very quickly. But yeah, if you go the other

46:44 way and you go to the F1 location, it's really cool.

46:47 I think it's called the Amalgam, in which it talks like it talks

46:55 like Big Top, Jackie and Dolly. I believe there might be another

47:02 character in there, but I can't tell.

47:06 The thing is that there is no White Tiger in there because I

47:09 mean, White Tiger doesn't talk, but like White Tiger appears and

47:13 is gone. That's how he operates.

47:15 He doesn't move. Yes.

47:19 Doesn't move, he doesn't talk. It's.

47:20 So, like, who the fuck is White Tiger?

47:22 Yeah. Is it the mimic or is it

47:23 something else? Anyway, you get into this to

47:26 this, like, old fun application. You have all these, like,

47:28 security cameras. Dispatch is still talking to you

47:30 like, this is the wrong choice, buddy, you're gonna die.

47:34 It doesn't matter where you go. The mimic will hunt you down.

47:39 You made a mistake coming here. Yeah.

47:42 But no, I like it was just cool to see that kind of work in part

47:46 progress. Kind of like version of.

47:49 The person right. No, Yeah, for sure.

47:51 It's like. Because you saw the you

47:53 literally saw Bonnie, Freddie and Chica up on stage.

47:58 Just, you know, they're very, very early in progress.

48:03 Yeah, I mean, but then you also have the two side characters

48:06 that you like are suits. Yes, that's like who are these

48:10 guys? Yeah, one kind of has like a

48:13 foxy like mouth, like the just like the way the teeth look.

48:17 Which could be a very early version of Foxy.

48:21 But other than that, it really doesn't look like that.

48:22 And then there's also Bub over there in the other corner.

48:25 Yeah, and then there's also, I forget which ending it is, but

48:31 you get stuffed in one of the suits.

48:33 I didn't see that ending. So I can't remember if it's.

48:40 If it's something particular you have to do, I'll have to look

48:44 this up, but you kind of similar to the way Help wanted did it

48:52 where you got like stuffed in the Freddie suit and you see,

48:56 oh, was that fucking rabbit guy or whatever.

49:00 Like trap glitch trap. Yeah.

49:02 So that was kind of similar to this in In Secret of the Mimic.

49:08 You were back in that location again, but you like had the the

49:12 view of where that Freddie was on stage.

49:17 It's really weird. I gotta look it up and see if I

49:20 can find it. I thought you saw.

49:23 I thought I saw you getting that ending once or twice.

49:26 No, I've never. I've only gotten 3 endings.

49:30 So that one, I believe that one is like bad like it's.

49:35 Of. Course, like, you know, yeah.

49:39 But it was interesting to see that it was like you fucked up.

49:43 I had no, I just, I thought there was only three endings.

49:47 And I mean that and that might not be maybe it's not considered

49:50 an ending. I don't, I don't know.

49:52 I don't know if it's like special or something.

49:54 Yeah, but I'm do a little bit more research.

49:57 But I do remember that. And that was pretty cool.

49:59 I think that actually happened to 8 bit Ryan, if I'm mistaken.

50:05 So we'll we'll we'll figure that out, right.

50:08 But it was cool. Getting getting it back to a

50:11 little bit. Then you get to the house, which

50:14 is kind of a cool section because you get to see more of

50:17 the amalgam as well as there's two different ends here.

50:25 But the the first one is that like you're you haven't gotten

50:29 all the collectibles, you haven't done moon.exe, you

50:31 haven't like done that to get to the I'm not even sure what

50:36 ending that's called or what they call that ending, but like

50:39 the kind of the mimic ending, I'll call it.

50:41 But you get to the true ending where like you eventually get

50:46 all the tapes, you get to the code to the door and everything.

50:49 You get upstairs and be like, oh, what's the surveillance

50:51 about? Is every single screen in the

50:53 entire like Murph what? Murray's costume.

50:58 Yeah, manner. Then like, you know, you look at

51:05 that and you're like, wait a minute, something's behind me.

51:08 And there it is, the mimic. You finally get to see the mimic

51:11 in its mimic form. Yes, this is the mimic.

51:17 Did you did you do the ending with shutting down the mimic?

51:23 I did, yes. OK, I thought that was kind of

51:26 cool. It is cool, but I was confused

51:29 by it because like the, the screen fades to black because

51:32 like the, the mimic is like trying to be like, do you know

51:34 the next part of the story? And I was like, yes, that's

51:37 right. The rabbits, the rabbits were

51:39 chasing each other around and around the tree, going in

51:42 circles, having fun. What about the next part of the

51:45 story? And like you have to like press

51:47 the buttons and everything and like eventually like because

51:49 like how it like goes into a small guy and like that was that

51:52 was cute. It was cute.

51:54 It was cute and like it would be like, what's the next?

51:57 It's part of the something like it grows.

51:59 Again. Yeah, to a human sized person

52:02 and. Then he eventually goes to bed.

52:07 Yeah, which? Is that's.

52:09 Which is talking like David and Edwin and via or whatever is

52:12 like. Yeah, and.

52:14 The that's kind of fucked up, but like what I'm confused by is

52:18 yeah, it goes to bed, whatever. Like with this white tiger doll,

52:21 it's like the screen fades to black and you are standing

52:24 there. You can't move.

52:25 It's like, what? What's the outcome?

52:30 So that outcome, I know that one, I don't want to say it's a,

52:38 it's a a good ending, I guess. I guess it's a good ending, but

52:41 not Canon. Yeah, can't be because security

52:45 reach ruin. Yes.

52:47 So that would be where you were successful in turning the thing

52:52 off. And I guess that's really it.

52:57 Like it's just not a, like I said, a Canon true ending.

53:02 Yeah, it's just like ACI guess a secret ending.

53:06 Yeah, probably a secret ending. It's like a secret.

53:08 You have to like you have to go through moon.exe and then you

53:11 get like what like the glitched or something like that data

53:14 driver access. Yes.

53:16 And that carries through the profiles too, because I did the

53:20 moon ending inside that code door room.

53:25 You can't go outside of it once you go into it.

53:28 So great. I have to do another playthrough

53:32 and that's what led to my fifth one and I'm like, oh, so if I

53:39 have the glitched, I can just plug it in and go right to the

53:42 ending, right? No, you still have to get all

53:44 the accesses Yes, that glitch is or whatever it is that moon is

53:51 just for the broken whatever doors inside the house to get

53:59 because there's 6 rooms with that bar thing with six

54:06 different tapes. Yes, in each of them.

54:08 You have to get the tapes into that so you can get that ending.

54:12 And then also was not explained and I didn't know you could do

54:16 this. You have to take the white tiger

54:19 doll out and place it on the pedestal because you put all the

54:24 things in the storage. So that way you can use all of

54:27 them inside moon.exe to get, you know, to the end.

54:33 So there's really no point to take the collectibles out.

54:35 Yeah, the tools you can take out, which because that tells

54:38 you like, oh, go under tools, get the get the crank right at

54:42 the very beginning of the game. You are never told that you can

54:45 take out a collectible and then you have to take because I had

54:50 to look that up too, just like with Big Top.

54:52 Like what do I do with Big Top? They were I I think the

54:55 developers were assuming you would have known that, which

54:57 can't do that and assume. No you can't.

55:01 And some clues and shit. Yeah.

55:02 I mean, had I been told that like I had to take out that I

55:06 could take out collectibles? Because I think I even tried

55:08 once, but I just couldn't. Because, you know, you get into

55:12 that room, there's like the whatever on the wall that like

55:14 tells you what the story is. And then there's the pedestal.

55:18 And like the book with all the buttons you have to push but the

55:20 pedestal is glowing with a paw. Yeah.

55:23 You have to place that tiger there.

55:27 Yeah. I that's, I think, yeah, they,

55:32 they, the developers could have done better on that.

55:33 But yeah, that's funny. That's pretty much going through

55:35 the whole game and it's just like, I kind of adore this game.

55:39 I kind of don't. There's the part where I just

55:43 don't see it as Five Nights at Freddy's.

55:45 It's This is the Mimic. This isn't Freddy's.

55:49 No, this is a totally different. Granted, it's all about the

55:52 mimic, but like, yeah, you see pirate Foxy, you see Roxy for a

55:55 little bit as a puppet, you see. You definitely see Chica and

56:07 then kind of Fredbear as a suit and Spring Trap as a suit, but

56:11 that's like not really a thing that's like just.

56:14 That's something different. Yeah, as well as what you said,

56:17 like the early stages of everything, that's pretty cool.

56:19 But like for the majority of the game, this isn't fun.

56:23 F. Yeah, it's, it's, it's it's own

56:26 thing, I guess you could say. Like it's not truly a Five

56:30 Nights at Fred. It's.

56:31 Not like I can see security breach because you still have

56:34 Chica and Freddie and like they're they're everywhere.

56:38 Every you look at the trash cans, they're there.

56:40 You look at Bonnie bowl like Freddie, like like Freddie's

56:44 fazzer blast. You have Chica jazzercise, mazer

56:47 size, whatever, like it's everything is themed of there

56:49 ever. You cannot miss the fact that it

56:52 is There is Freddy, there is Chica, there's Foxy, Whatever.

56:55 You can't miss that. That is a that is a Freddy's

56:58 game. But there is nothing relatively

57:01 in this game that just tells you, hey, this is a Five Nights

57:04 at Freddy's game. I mean, like, what are your

57:06 thoughts on this mark? Like because it really doesn't

57:08 scream Freddy's to me. It doesn't.

57:10 And I made the comment to you. I'd said this is less of like

57:13 Five Nights at Freddy's and more like Fun Night at Fazbear's or

57:17 something. You're not wrong.

57:19 Because it's one night and it's only.

57:23 I mean that that is the new generation of steel wall.

57:26 Yeah. Yeah, call it Five Nights at

57:31 Freddy's. There should be 5 nights.

57:34 I mean. God damn it.

57:35 I could definitely see them doing something like, oh, we

57:39 have a system like Resident Evil where we're telling multiple

57:44 stories at the same time. That could be something that

57:47 they could do to really just kind of pin it out.

57:50 I guess, but like the the comment that I made back to you

57:55 after you said like fun, fun, whatever at Fredbear or whatever

57:58 he said, my comment back to you, Mark, was this isn't Five Nights

58:02 at Freddy's, this is FNAF. Yeah, there's the.

58:05 Distinction 'cause it's it's yeah 'cause it's.

58:08 It's known now as more FNAF. Yeah, 'cause there there are,

58:13 There isn't five nights, it's funnaf, but there's not five

58:17 nights, no. Fun nights.

58:20 I like, I I'm optimistic. It's like to see what's next.

58:27 Yeah, because I mean, given all of the bullshit with Security

58:31 Breach and Mimic. Yeah, there was a.

58:34 Steel wool has been doing fine. They're they're.

58:37 Learning, I will say compared to Security Breach, I do.

58:41 I adore Security Breach, but I do think that Mimic was a step

58:45 in the right direction. I think they definitely brought

58:49 back the horror because that's what was missing.

58:52 And as much as I hate horror, but like I.

58:55 It's supposed to be a horror. Game it is.

58:57 It's supposed to be scary and I like as much as I hate the the

59:00 white tiger section. I'm like.

59:03 This feels this. Yeah, this is not only horror,

59:08 but it's also psychological horror in this aspect only

59:11 because it's like this is there's this mysterious

59:13 character that can teleport and use lights at his will.

59:17 Yeah. Which is.

59:18 Which I guess isn't too far off. Like I guess FNAF 5 minutes of

59:22 Freddy's could be considered in some way psychological horror.

59:28 Yeah. Yeah.

59:29 Especially the first game like you were saying with all the

59:31 audio shit, all the audio game like there's fake audio and that

59:35 doesn't red hair anything to do with Freddy or the any of the

59:39 four animatronics. Yeah, no.

59:40 It's just there to creep you out.

59:42 And it's like, wow, that's cool. It makes you think because when

59:46 you think about if you take away, if you strip Five Nights

59:49 at Freddy's, like all of it's horror, all that stuff.

59:53 It's a resource management game. Yes, that is what it is.

59:58 But it's just it's. You know, also got this horror

1:00:01 based. Yeah.

1:00:02 But. It's mechanically it is a

1:00:04 resource. Management, it is supposed.

1:00:05 It's supposed to be dark, it's supposed to be dingy.

1:00:08 There's supposed to be something going on in the background that

1:00:10 you don't know about. Yeah.

1:00:11 Security Breach really didn't have that.

1:00:14 It's just like, no, oh, Vanny, it's Vanessa and Bunny together.

1:00:20 It's like, what are what are we doing?

1:00:21 Yeah, everyone can guess. That yeah, I could definitely

1:00:25 say that security breach, kind of no pun intended breach this

1:00:30 sort of identity of the game trying to do something new.

1:00:36 I mean which, and again, I do agree, I think that Secret of

1:00:41 the Mimic does do that identity a bit better because it it has

1:00:46 much more of a narrow focus. And there's also Ruin, which

1:00:52 really did turn up the horror. It did, it did, but I just

1:00:57 didn't like the linearity of ruin.

1:00:59 That's what, yeah, it was kind of a 180 from security breach.

1:01:02 'Cause it's like you can really only play it once.

1:01:05 Yeah, security bridge. You can just fuck around.

1:01:08 And I love that. It's it to me, it's a sandbox

1:01:11 and I fucking love that. Yeah, and it's, and I just.

1:01:14 I love, I love the. Glam rocks.

1:01:18 I know dude if they if they put mimic like the horror of of

1:01:23 mimic with the. Aesthetic.

1:01:26 Of yeah, the aesthetic of the Pizza Plex, it would be fucking.

1:01:32 With the Glamorax, it would be fucking.

1:01:34 Perfect. And I just, I love, I love

1:01:37 Freddy so much. Oh my God, yeah.

1:01:39 I am truly sorry. Stop, stop.

1:01:43 It's OK. It's it's just a magnet.

1:01:46 It's just a. It's a.

1:01:47 It's a it's. Your eyes.

1:01:48 So sorry. Also with and we have hit time

1:01:53 by the way, one thing I wanted to say, playing a little bit of

1:01:56 help on it too. There is a mini game where you

1:02:00 fix glam rock Freddie and he's still just as funny.

1:02:05 Because I love when because there's a hot and cold mechanic.

1:02:09 And it. Makes it too hot or too cold.

1:02:11 And it's just, it's funny when he gets too hot, you know, he's

1:02:14 like, man, is it just me or is it getting hot?

1:02:18 You know, I'm like. OK or or it gets called his

1:02:22 freeze engineer that like. Security breach had a charm.

1:02:29 It really did, yeah. I think it's because, you know,

1:02:32 it's set in the future of like 20-30, which is the most

1:02:36 believable date is 2030. Yes.

1:02:39 It just like with these advanced energy, because there's here's

1:02:43 another thing, the original games are all about haunted

1:02:47 children, like haunted animatronics of dead children

1:02:50 and serial killers and all this kind of shit.

1:02:52 This one is just the the new era, the steel wool era is just.

1:02:59 These are sentient. Robots.

1:03:02 Beings or you know, we're. Yeah, robots at this point.

1:03:04 Like, yes, these are their own. These aren't children.

1:03:07 Nothing. But I forgot where it's going

1:03:13 with us. Oh well.

1:03:16 And I like just to also say like, I still love, even though

1:03:20 it's sad. With Roxy.

1:03:22 Yeah. With what was her name?

1:03:24 What was the girl's name? I.

1:03:25 Forgot. Oh, Cassandra.

1:03:27 No. Cassie.

1:03:28 Cassie. Cassie.

1:03:30 You know, like the fact that Roxy knew that was Cassie.

1:03:34 Yeah, You know, and. Because it's like, it's a higher

1:03:36 pitch, you know, obviously a girl's voice is like, get up,

1:03:38 get away from me. And it's like, oh, sorry, bye,

1:03:40 bye. I cuz.

1:03:45 She can't see. Yeah, she can't see.

1:03:47 She can hear, but she can't see. And the fact that Roxy actually

1:03:52 wasn't dead and was fighting off the mimic, which was pretty

1:03:55 badass. Michael like that made me really

1:04:00 like Roxy a little more because I mean, I even felt bad for the

1:04:05 character just because she's got such self esteem issues.

1:04:08 Oh my God. Robot.

1:04:10 I know cuz she's all like look at me, I'm the best as she's

1:04:15 like walking around but then like she gets destroyed.

1:04:17 She's like. Will you still like me?

1:04:20 And that's. Am I pretty is like damn she

1:04:24 just got depressed and. Then you got Chico who who wants

1:04:27 pizza? You know I gotta.

1:04:29 Shut my face. Eating shit and then Gator guy

1:04:35 whatever. Just being a Dick.

1:04:36 I don't care about. I don't care about.

1:04:37 I don't. I want my Bonnie back.

1:04:40 I just don't like Bonnie back or not replace him with literally

1:04:44 anybody else cuz like he he has the typical like 70s or whatever

1:04:50 rock star yes attitude yes. Yeah.

1:04:55 Yeah, but like after a show, break your guitar.

1:04:58 Like party rock, whatever. Be like Rock'n'roll or whatever.

1:05:02 Like I just, I wanted, I wanted to see how Bonnie would have

1:05:06 been as a glam rock. Now he is technically there.

1:05:12 It's just he's. He's off like you can actually

1:05:15 find him off off the beaten path.

1:05:20 Like there's like AI think you have to use a, a camera like

1:05:25 hack or whatever, but he's actually behind I think Bonnie

1:05:28 Bowl and he's like tore up and shit.

1:05:32 And I'm like, I am really sad now cuz I don't know.

1:05:37 Bonnie would have been cool. You did have a cool.

1:05:38 Design. I won't.

1:05:39 That's why. I'm like get rid of the Gator.

1:05:43 But I will say the only thing that is funny about Monty is

1:05:46 when he sees you and you just hear behind you.

1:05:49 Hey little guy that killed that makes me laugh.

1:05:56 Every time, my God. But no, it's security.

1:06:01 Rage is definitely a fun game. It's just there was no horror.

1:06:04 Again, I'm fine with that. I'm not a horror person, but

1:06:06 like, I understand why it's Five Nights at Freddy's.

1:06:08 People want horror in their horror game.

1:06:11 And they expect that. In their mascot horror game.

1:06:15 Yeah, you can't, can't get away from that.

1:06:17 No, they had the mascot but not the horror.

1:06:20 In Mimic they had the horror but not the mascot.

1:06:23 So now let's. Again, I'm the two.

1:06:25 Again, I can, you know, this is my opinion.

1:06:28 I can understand that is the mascot.

1:06:32 And you know, like big top Jackie, whatever.

1:06:34 Like, I mean, especially Jackie was supposed to be the face.

1:06:37 But like it's just there's to me, there's no mascot.

1:06:40 Yeah, there's so many mascots that there's no mascots.

1:06:43 And then? And also like.

1:06:46 It just doesn't have an identity.

1:06:47 And what beats, like, beating with, like, that horse here?

1:06:50 But when I see Five Nights at Freddy's, I'm kind of expecting

1:06:55 to see Freddy at some point. Yeah, now I know there was a big

1:06:58 mask, I know, but that doesn't really count.

1:07:01 I know. That's what I was going to say

1:07:02 too. It's like, yeah, I mean, like,

1:07:05 you see Chica or you see Pirate Fox.

1:07:08 Sorry, puppet Foxy. But that's not Foxy, that's a

1:07:10 puppet. That's a puppet.

1:07:11 Yeah, granted it was early Foxy, but it's still like fuck, if you

1:07:15 can make chica into a suit, you can make the rest of them into a

1:07:18 suit. If I see a fucking huge ass

1:07:20 Freddie mask that you know is Freddie, you can look at it.

1:07:24 Where is he? Like, I don't know, I, I just,

1:07:28 it just feels like it. Yeah.

1:07:29 It doesn't have. Identity.

1:07:30 You would need to have Freddie to exist before you make a big

1:07:34 Freddie mask. Let's be honest, yeah?

1:07:37 Like you would. Yes.

1:07:39 You would need to create the character before you create a

1:07:42 bigger version of it. Like you need to have a drawing

1:07:46 somewhere, you need to have an animatronic, or like you know in

1:07:48 this universe you need to have an animatronic first.

1:07:50 That even makes me more mad. The design is there, where is.

1:07:56 He I like. I do love Five Nights at

1:07:59 Freddy's. I've been a fan since it came

1:08:01 out. Yes, ever since it came out when

1:08:03 I was in high school. Exactly.

1:08:04 No, I was my we. Were in middle school.

1:08:07 I was in high school. When I came back, I was my

1:08:10 junior year. Yeah.

1:08:13 God. I know how time.

1:08:14 Flies, I think they like pumped the first four games just like

1:08:17 pump pump the first four games in like what, 2 years?

1:08:20 Not even. And they you know, and besides

1:08:23 like 3, like 3 was not well received but.

1:08:27 There it was more of a lore game.

1:08:29 That's looking back. And I mean, but all of them were

1:08:34 decent games. The fact that they came out so

1:08:36 quickly, I mean, I give Scott credit.

1:08:38 He knew what he was doing. He did and.

1:08:40 He did a great fucking job. Like I still remember when

1:08:45 fucking everybody knows Markiplier's video of the first

1:08:48 FNAF. I remember.

1:08:49 Saying that for the first. Time I know that was the that

1:08:52 was like that was the first FNAF video I watched and I like I

1:08:56 was, it sounds stupid, but like, you know, me being a 14 year old

1:09:00 or whatever, I was like in my room and like if it was if it

1:09:05 was like past 12:00 AM, I'm like, I can't leave my room.

1:09:08 Yeah. Freddy's gonna get me.

1:09:11 I'm gonna die. And then like 6:00 happened.

1:09:13 I'm like, I can pee. Oh, that no.

1:09:19 And I think we should go. I'm sure people have had the

1:09:25 similar experience but it's just so fucking funny.

1:09:28 I can pee. And and that's the another thing

1:09:33 to add before we we end the uncanniness of the first couple

1:09:41 FNAF games. Yeah, that's also kind of lost.

1:09:45 I would say 1-2 and three, not so much 4, but yeah.

1:09:48 So much 4/4. I didn't hate it.

1:09:51 I thought it was. I thought it was a fine game.

1:09:53 No, it's a great Mechanically, it's a great game.

1:09:55 But seeing the animatronics that scary.

1:10:00 They are they. Sorry.

1:10:02 Go on. They're not scary.

1:10:05 I like their designs. Though their designs are great.

1:10:08 Because they're supposed to be nightmares.

1:10:09 They're supposed to be like a dream state, kind of like.

1:10:11 But that's where the uncanniness went away.

1:10:15 That's what's really creepy is the uncanny like.

1:10:18 Yeah, really. Should not be alive.

1:10:21 I think it peeked at like toy Bonnie, because toy Bonnie.

1:10:24 Creepy motherfucker. Yeah, I like his eyes and just

1:10:28 like looking at you and I'm like.

1:10:31 Fucking. As he like appears in your

1:10:33 office. With her chica, Jesus Christ her

1:10:38 in front of you in the desk. I'm like.

1:10:44 Oh my God. But but yeah, I think I think

1:10:47 we're on that day here. This is this has been a good

1:10:49 discussion on secular memory. I mean, going to the game, but

1:10:52 like, I just wanted to kind of get my thoughts on it.

1:10:55 Like just not Freddy's is my opinion.

1:10:59 Yeah, it's the subtitle Secret of the Mimic.

1:11:03 Yeah, you just X out the front, yeah.

1:11:07 It's much more of a spin off. It kind of feels well.

1:11:10 Yeah, I can see it. I just hope that they put the

1:11:15 horror, the horror of Mimic and the, you know, the mascot of

1:11:18 security whimsy together. Yeah.

1:11:21 The whimsy. Jesus Christ, I would love to

1:11:23 see that. Like, it's scary.

1:11:25 But then there's times they're like, oh, hey, buddy.

1:11:27 Sorry. Yeah.

1:11:28 Oh hey buddy. Truly you I'm.

1:11:31 Waving at you. Also to add, still kind of

1:11:37 ticked off that FNAF Plus did not become a thing.

1:11:44 Five Nights at Freddy's Plus was a It was a fan game, but it was

1:11:47 part of the. That initiative.

1:11:52 It looked good. OK, it was going to tell a a

1:11:58 retelling of the first game, but more gritty.

1:12:02 The animatronics were a hell of a lot scarier, but also still

1:12:07 had the uncanny. So if you haven't seen this,

1:12:10 look up the animatronics, you'll see what I mean.

1:12:14 It was really weird to see Freddie with pants though.

1:12:18 There's like Patrick Starr, like, nothing on top, just

1:12:21 pants. Oh, I think you can't look.

1:12:27 At Smokey the Bear. Kind of yeah, kind of cuz the

1:12:30 best, cuz Freddie also had the best.

1:12:32 But no, it got it got, I don't want to say quietly cancelled.

1:12:37 It got cancelled because of the developer.

1:12:42 There were a lot of controversial things.

1:12:46 Nothing that's like, I want to say awful.

1:12:50 It's been, it's been a while since this happened, but it was

1:12:54 shut down by Scott and, you know, took it off Steam like it

1:12:59 didn't come out yet, but they took the Steam page down and

1:13:01 everything and it's gone. You don't see anything of it.

1:13:05 And the only thing that's a remnant of it is the there were

1:13:09 some developers that made a clone of it, which actually is

1:13:12 pretty good, but it's not what it was going to be because there

1:13:17 were VHS style like videos of this game.

1:13:21 Production was great. This sucked.

1:13:25 When I got cancelled I was pissed.

1:13:27 I'm like, why couldn't you be better?

1:13:30 I will say, have you seen, have you seen FNAF in real time?

1:13:36 Yes, where you have to survive five nights at Freddy's for six

1:13:41 hours. Actually, yeah, there's actually

1:13:44 6 real life hours. And during the.

1:13:48 Five real nights. Well, one.

1:13:50 One night. Well, yeah, and it was funny

1:13:52 because like the the animatronic AI could vary wildly like.

1:13:58 There's an episode. It could be like, it could be

1:14:02 like Chica, like 4:00 AM. It could be AI to zero to 15

1:14:06 randomly and sometimes you can just roll the fucking cosmic

1:14:09 dice on a zero and the AI just shuts down and doesn't do

1:14:14 anything for an hour. It's like or the age, at least

1:14:16 as far as I know. Like last I heard like the AI

1:14:18 just breaks and it's like Yep Bonnie and Chica are down.

1:14:21 But then like an hour passes. Like next hour I was like

1:14:24 bonnies active again. You're still dead.

1:14:26 And like, I mean, that was a cool concept.

1:14:29 You know. Like actual 6 real life it's.

1:14:32 Just you need to have sausage. You can't just like sit at the

1:14:35 desk and like, look at the animatronics for six hours.

1:14:37 That's what makes the game so palpable to palpable to play.

1:14:41 Yeah, is the fact that you're not there for six hours?

1:14:44 No, no, I think it's like. The first game is 10 minutes.

1:14:48 It's like 10 minutes a night or. Something.

1:14:50 But then they got, then they got slowly down to like 4 1/2.

1:14:53 Yeah, Yeah. But anyway, I'm gonna close the

1:14:55 discussion here. That was a pretty long episode,

1:14:59 which I mean, I feel like my episodes are always the longest.

1:15:02 This one had a lot of session. Very content rich.

1:15:05 It is. It was.

1:15:06 Yeah. And a nice mark yawn.

1:15:09 And a nice fart chair. Yeah, I got very warm and that's

1:15:13 cooling on. We had my we had my guest

1:15:15 manager Mark and businessman Brandon.

1:15:20 I've been executive Ethan and we're you are free to unplug

1:15:25 from this podcast. Go about your day and have fun.

1:15:27 Tell us what you thought of The Secret of the Mimic and or just

1:15:31 Five Nights at Freddy's in general and we'll see you in the

1:15:36 next episode. Bye everybody.