Christmas Memories

0:02 Hey guys, and welcome back to Plug In for Player 4. Merry Christmas. Holy shit, it's Christmas, Ethan, say it. Hi.

0:12 That's not what I was so. Don't worry, I got it. You want me to say it? Yeah, I want you to say it. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. He said it, Mark, I'm going to put you in timeout. Fuck you, I I gave you what you wanted. This is what the people asked for. Merry Christmas, this is not what they fucking asked for. Merry Christmas. Merry. Christmas, it's just a week away. Merry. Christmas.

0:51 All right, Yeah, that that that's that cool. All right. Merry Christmas. Oh, God. Now he's in a perpetual loop.

1:00 Get out of here. Do that. No, no Christmas, no Christmas for you. I thought it was. I'm getting conflicted. Thoughts. Me too bad, me too well. What has we been doing? We've been at least me and Mark wizard with a gun. We're going to beat it finally. It's only took like a year and then you know, if the first half of the year we didn't touch it at all.

1:41 Yes, you guys got to get on that man. It's almost the end of the year. I know, I know. I have a feeling it's not going to happen just because the end of the game is so hard. Yeah. We're just like the the time crunch now, you know, with, you know, all the other people visiting and. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, let's. See what you guys can do. But we shall see, and then we're going to move on to Generation 0. OK, very good.

2:26 What about you, Mark? Yeah. What you been that was aggressive? What what you been up to? Well, well, I think Ethan kind of explained that pretty well. Playing wasn't able to go with him. I'm playing games with Emma here. Hi, baby.

2:50 What was that? That was Emma. My inner. Turmoil. So you're not listening to Mark, That's Emma I. Don't. Think you do? Who am I? What about the listeners? They don't know who I am. Yeah, they don't. Yeah. They do. Whose fault is that? She was on for Halloween. They don't remember. You do know. Oh, yeah. He's my wife, Emma. That's my wife. My wife. My. Wife. My wife. I hate all of you, no. You, don't you? Don't worry Grant, I hate you more. There it is. Hey, I hate. You too. I got you. Don't worry about it.

3:43 So that's Christmas. What's? Christmas. What's Christmas? It's Christmas, Jake is Merry Christmas, you filthy animal. Prep the change, you filthy animal. Well, before we continue for the listeners at home, we're not doing the usual recording here. We'll usually record. We are doing a good old over the Internet cause weather, yeah. Ohio snow. Yep. Yeah. So we're. Different than sorry here. So we're doing this so then you guys can have an episode. The grind is really. Humanity. All the humanity. Oh no, won't someone think of the children?

4:43 Oh no. I don't know about that, but sure, sure, we'll go with that. Well, yes, today Christmas, or specifically Christmas memories. Wow, Christmas. It's just two weeks away. Christmas. Oh my goodness, Can you believe it? It's almost. Now he fucking does it my guy. We are 5 minutes in. And six. Days. What? What? Wait, what? I didn't hear that shit. As of this recording. Oh. We're six days away. Yes. Wow, Christmas just six days away. I swear to God, car. By car. By car, yes. Christmas memories. Just literally self-explanatory, similar to Halloween, but I'm sure all of it, yes, Mark, all of so all of us, I'm sure have some type of memories of some kind.

6:03 Back in my day. Oh, oh, Oh no. I don't know about you guys, but I have very good and very bad Christmas memories. Mine are good to me. Mine are about the same. Yeah, good to. I have lots of melancholy memories of times gone by. Jesus well. Don't depress the viewers here. Supposed to be Holly jolly, not humbug. I'll show you humbug. Oh OK, this is how it get cancelled.

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7:22 See, there it is. There's life. How about you, Mark? How about you share one of your favorite Christmas memories? I want to defer to somebody else first. Come in all right while go. So. I remember get away. I remember as a kid, we used to always go to both my grandparents, but my dad's side especially, like it was there was a lot of kids there. And by kids, I mean like from my grandparents. And so the Christmas tree was always. Packed. Like it was more Christmas presents than than I've ever seen in my entire life.

8:09 Every every year it felt like. But there was one year in particular where me and my brother were just like opening up our gifts or whatever. Like we opened up all our gifts and then all of a sudden my dad and I think my uncle slide out this giant Christmas present. Like holy crap, who is that for? And I I hear this is for Ethan and my brother and my eyes are just like what it like this was a huge present. It was like TV size. Holy shit. I. Me and my brother start ripping it open and it was an air hockey table.

8:51 It was like. One of the coolest, Mark, you know what the what the IRA hockey table looks like it was in the basement for. Yeah. No, it it was in the basement for. Yeah, I got that for Christmas. I'm just like, watch. My mind was infinitely blown.

9:10 Just whoa. Yeah. 'Cause I'm like, there's no way such a big present was for me. I mean it was for both me and my brother, but still. Like there was just no way it was for a kid. It was impossible at my age to wrap my brain around that. And still. To. This. Day it remains one of my like favorite Christmas memories ever.

9:37 That's awesome. That's pretty the amount of use, the amount of use that we got out of the Iraqi, we beat the shit out of that. We we didn't just. Play air hockey with it either we used this fortifications for nerf wars at some point. Did we? I know we had a like a like a basket down there with blankets in and at one point. I thought. We used this part of the fortifications we might have. There was also like the. What was? It the fucking. Step. Two tub of toys that we had and we would take the lid and use that as well.

10:16 Yeah. When? When? We do those nerve fights, that half of the basement, it was unfair. Yeah, I know there was. You had you had fucking the trenches on one side and no man's land on the others. That's. Cool there. Was a tactical disparity. We tried to make it fair, but it just was. It just was not fair. It. Was like storming the fucking Alamo. Anyway yeah me like me and my brother and whoever else played that like beat the we would. How me and my brother played is we would slam the disc as hard as we possibly could and it would like probably 5 * a game.

11:08 Like upwards of five times it would fly off the table because of how hard we were. It was flat until it wasn't. It was gone because of how hard we were hitting it. And we do the same thing with foosball. There was a foosball table at at a beach house we had. We would do the exact same shit. And what's funny with the foosball table, if you hit it hard, it would go right into the goal. Jesus, I know this. Is like not Christmas Eve but like the my girlfriend at one point was like well you just do this and slam it as hard as possible and it went right in and we both died of laughter instantly because my point proven.

11:48 See it works.

11:52 Whose? Ball is the sport of strength.

11:58 Oh God. Yeah, biggest gift I ever received as a child in terms of size. Holy shit. That's pretty lit. Ain't go lie. Fucking air hockey man. Yes. It was fucking lit. As the. Cool kids say yeah fucking.

12:24 Yeah, fucking so you. Yeah. Oh, wait a minute. Go.

12:32 What about one of you guys, huh? What do you Emma? You got anything? My memories are very skewed. A lot of my happiest memories were kind of ruined by poor memories. Oh, I. Suppose the most funniest memory I have in recent times is my grandmother and you. I'm sure the viewers don't know this, but my husband and my father share the same name. And over the last almost 13 years of us being together, my grandmother could never distinguish who was who on our Christmas gifts. And so she would write, you know, my mom's mark and my Mark and mark refused to do this, but I wanted him to take my last name just to sew it even further into being funny.

13:37 But I'm curious to see if she does it again this year. It would be funny. It would be funny that would. Be an epic gamer move, not going to lie. Yeah, epic gamer Strat Jesus.

14:00 Well, I guess for me, one of my favorite memories is this shit was funny when my besides like having like Christmas with my folks, like my parents and all that we'd go and also spend like Christmas Eve with my uncle and my grandma. And this one year by Uncle Chris, he the presidency got us were something that we wanted. So I think that year I think he got me the Star Wars episode 3 and DVD or some shit. At the time I was probably 10 or 11, I believe, but the way that he. Did the. Presents was that gift was under a pair of like, under like a thing of socks, right.

15:12 And I remember when he did that because I remember looking like, Ah, man, shit, you know, But then my uncle's like move the socks and I'm like, oh, oh, Star Wars. Fuck, yeah. So I I thought it was kind of funny.

15:30 My brother did not find that funny. He was kind of pissed off, I find. That kind of funny it? It was just, it was clever. Fuck you. You know, you know how much I wish I would get sucks nowadays. From how much? Our dog fucking chews through them.

15:52 I. Was like I get I get socks and a movie. Wow. Honestly, like now being an adult, like if somebody did that, I'd be like, man, fuck yeah, the socks. All this movie is really cool, but the socks, yes. Like. I I'm doing that with. Underwear I have, I have a lot of socks. I'm good on socks, but underwear? Oh dude I I I'll take bro I. Feel that I have boxes. Of those. I I. Could definitely say having grown up that I I am shocked at how quickly I moved through underwear just because of work. Just like do you?

16:29 When you go to work, do you shit down and like RIP so much ass that you just burn a hole? No, no, no, I, I I'm talking about for the epic project that when I still worked at Mark's, just the amount of moving around that I used to have to do, the amount of ripping redded every pair of underwear of our own I can. See it straight down. To the individual fibers. Yes. You just see Mark bend down. Like. Like my my underwear would just resemble rags at that point. Like loincloths, they. Still do. Yes. That shit was great.

17:13 You're. Still ripping ass and ripping through your shorts, Jesus.

17:22 But yeah, that's, I'd say probably like one of my favorite memories, yeah. I can't say I've ever gotten like a trick gift before. And there's always just been like the and like none of those, none of those things were like, oh, you put it in a box in a box, in a box in a box. I've never. Gotten 1 do. You want trickiest? Do you want to know what my family does? Oh no, we. Are the veteran of of Fuck Your Christmas OK? There was one year where my aunt and my grandmother and I, we were all competing for the worst wrappings.

18:06 I. Used tithing tape on one of the gifts side. So like when you're putting a vinyl on the side of your house, there is like a tape that you could use to help stick it to the side of the wall. This. Tape does not RIP and barely cuts like we are violent with our presents. And you know, it gets even worse when you had your Christmas cards and you put really fine glitter or confetti in it.

18:40 I've learned my lesson over the years to open it over a bag. I don't trust anybody anymore. I think about the worst that my dad ever did to me was he took bolts and a wooden box and he took a present of mine and literally bolted it together in a wooden box. Jesus, my God.

19:04 Mom. Get the crowbar, yeah. No really, there was one year that all of us thought it was a good idea to use like fine milled confetti and I mean there was like 6 of us in a room opening boxes of just confetti everywhere. Oh no.

19:23 And think about it this way, I have cats. What do cats do? They track shit everywhere. That's the last thing I was. Going to say eat it, but that works too. Oh yeah. So. You want to play Gifts War with us? Oh no. No, I'm good. Mark, I don't think we've done it as badly to you, no. I don't think so. Mark is the only ones exempt from the pain.

19:54 Fuck this is this is information.

20:02 Be. Careful what you receive from this family, yeah? Yeah, yeah.

20:15 Oh God. God. So wait, Mark, do you have one for Ethan? One of y'all, I mean none. That I can really recall off the top of my head because like that was that was pretty much the only one that I really remember was that. I mean like I'm sure there have been like other cool gifts in the past. Like. I guess. I guess one of the best gifts that I ever got, besides that air hockey table, was for Christmas one year we got an Xbox 360.

21:04 Which? Is very surprising because growing up we had stuff like the N64, like this is like, this is when I was like barely conscious was like PlayStation 164. And then we got the PlayStation two. We played the fuck out of this out of the PlayStation two. And then for Christmas one year, Xbox 360, not the PlayStation three. I mean, thank God, because the more I, the more I learn about the PlayStation 3, the more I'm like, yeah, I'm glad I missed out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, anyway. Yeah, we got a PlayStation Three with Black Ops 2.

21:45 And then I, I, this wasn't Christmas, but I remember one day Mark bringing over Halo 4 and doing like, you know, they had the two discs, the installed disc and the actual like play the game disc. So we're sitting there for like an hour or whatever. Me, me and my brother Mark, you know, like installing Halo 4th and I want like we played. Then I'm like, this is the best thing ever. No, an Xbox 360 with plays with Black Ops 2. Probably the most played game I have on Xbox is Call of Duty Black Ops 2.

22:18 I played that for years, both multiplayer. The zombies. I played the campaign once, wasn't a big fan but I finished it. I did the route where you tried to kill him but he you know, just blocks her gun. Whatever Ramirez I think his name is.

22:36 I killed him. The the. Amount of sheer hours I got off that game alone. Especially the zombies. Dude origins Origins. Best map ever conceived. Yes, well, I guess Mark, do you got anything? If not I I've got 1.

23:11 I like to. Whatever I want to think about happy Christmases, I like to think back to all the work that my sister did to really keep the holiday traditional alive in our family. You know, after, after mom and dad split, things got really strenuous of just trying to maintain some sense of just normalcy in our family. And with mom and dad off and doing whatever fighting they did or just, you know, focusing on other family and whatnot. My sister would always just kind of take up the reins for the holidays and just try to keep up the, the spirits as much as she possibly could.

24:00 I mean, she, she would go out of her way and you know, she was a high school girl. Just. Going out of her way to write notes as if they're from Santa and leave them out for for all of us kids to go out and find and read. Or she would be doing a lot of the decorating, a lot of just the the fun little things that we used to do as a family together. And. Just she she really tried her hardest to make make bad situations just seem less so, especially during Christmas time. And you? Know it just. Makes.

24:50 Me feel happy just just knowing how much she actually cared because you have being just one of three siblings with just you being one of two younger brothers and having a sister in high school, sometimes you kind of expect your sister just kind of. Be. Dismissive be Oh, I'm just going to focus on my thing it's high school. It's my time to start fighting my life. But she really did kind of take a step back and focus on making sure that we can still get through. That's cool. That's. Real nice, especially with like with Christmas and whatnot, you know, a lot of people are, you know, they're happy about the holidays and a lot of people aren't.

25:42 Yeah. You know, it's, it's just one of those things where it's like, I hope for the for the people that are like not in the holiday spirit, at least they find peace and something with it. Yeah, I find some. Sort of happiness, some sort of little memories cherish and at least try to spend some time with family or whether it be their blood or the family that they find. Like your friends or your family, too, you know? It doesn't always have to be blood, you know? Yeah, because family can be so weird.

26:22 And like that, that's how I've always felt like I love my family debates, but like I've always kept my friends closer than my family.

26:30 It's just how I've always been like. It's just I find that I connect with them more. Yeah. We play games, we fuck around every day, especially growing up, like every day I would be in a party chat with Mark, yeah, or whoever was like Nick, Ethan, whoever was on at the time. Just. Every day, just try to set aside some time to keep connected with friends, right? OK. And like going back to my like my dad's side of the family, the big side. That's one thing I didn't like. I always had the shortest. And I still do.

27:22 Social battery out of everyone in my family, even my mom's side. Like as a kid, you know, your parents drive me there and I'm like, when are we leaving? When are we leaving? And it's like, oh, soon, we'll leave soon. Whatever, two hours later. Like I I just, I want to be home. Yeah. So. Many people and I want to be home. So like. That's.

27:49 I know. It's not like the most negative thing, but like it. For me, it's like it, there was one time where I went back to that feeling and it was the most anxiety feeling feeling I've ever had and I don't want to have it again. That's why I always like make my way be able to have an easy way out.

28:11 I get that, that I understand. I, I'm, I wouldn't say like my social battery can be short, but I'm like even like Ethan knows this. I hate big fucking groups of people. Just makes me anxious as shit.

28:30 Can't really explain why it just does be it maybe it's just too many people or it's like I don't have problems with like loud sounds to a certain degree, but I don't know. I'm just just a person that doesn't like being around like like 20-30 people. You feel like you're like closed in and shit. It. Depends on the context for me. Like for example, I play Magic

29:03 and I was actually just up at the shop today playing Magic and it was a very loud Friday for how many people there were. Like I was like talking over people. I mean granted normally I'm not one for loud noises. Like I check out of the conversation like I shut down like. It's a sensory. Issue for me, but for whatever reason I was in the moment, I was living it up and I was like laughing, having a blast. Oh my. It was so much fun, but yeah, I know like. For the most part I can't really do like big groups.

29:39 Like if I go to the store. What, during rush hour? That sucks. Oh yeah. But. If I go to a concert where I'm expecting a lot of people, sure, whatever. It's just more so like what I expect to happen. Well, thinking about it, there's a really funny fucking Christmas memory from what? God, 20/20/13. Oh shit, yeah, it's. It's when the Xbox One came out, so I think it was 2013.

30:26 So for Christmas, I asked, you know, for the Xbox One and, you know, and a laptop, because the laptop I had previously was old it, you know, it needed an upgrade. And I remember unwrapping my gifts and I'm like, Oh yeah, I got the Xbox. Hell yeah. And I go to the, the next, the, the next gift and I RIP it open and I'm like, wait, what the fuck? It was a rack box, like a rack that came in the box. That's it's box. And I'm like, and I'm just sitting here staring at this, you know, I'm like, don't be an asshole.

31:13 Don't be an asshole. Do you got the Xbox? Don't be an asshole. You know, and fucking my, my, my dad's like just open the box, look at it. And I'm like looking at it. And I'm like, OK, And I look in there. Oh OK, here's my laptop. And I just. Apparently I had just such a dumbfounded face from what I was told. And like. Well, yeah, I unwrap this and it's a fucking wreck. You know, like, yeah, I would have, if it actually was a wreck, I would most likely have used it. But I, I don't know, man, that that that was that was just some fuck shit.

31:58 I mean, it was funny.

32:04 And God, I, I had that laptop. I actually, I think I still have it. It's just kind of at this point it's super old now. So trying to work anything on that is God, even Linux, I don't think saves it.

32:21 It was a Toshiba laptop, but I don't know that was that was pretty fucking funny, man. But The thing is with that laptop, man, when, when we got it, you know, it fucking had Windows 8 on it. Oh. God coming from 7:00 and then having to use 8 God. OK, I feel like Windows has the same problem that Nintendo does every other whatever version. Is. Great. Yeah, just think. About it, yeah. But I guess the, I guess the thing I I would think of is is I guess with Nintendo, they're because I'd fucking fucking Microsoft, man.

33:24 They're, I think Nintendo was a little bit more.

33:30 OK, what's the word? No. Idea. A word of a word of a word, I think. Nintendo. Just does their OS is more frequently better than Microsoft. Like I know they were trying to fix 8 'cause I think 8.1 wasn't awful. There's still Windows 8, but I just got, I don't ever want to go back to that. I mean, the fucking laptop, Like, I remember using it one day and then the next day Windows wouldn't even boot. And I'm like, what the fuck? I just get this laptop and now it's being shit. Yeah, no, yeah, no. It was funny.

34:32 I will say I will appreciate, I think it's my mom every year.

34:40 We like all the kids that had a stocking, like there wasn't, you know, big presence in there or anything. Like it was like little small, like wrapped stuff. Every year in the stocking there'd be like some like, you know, small funny gift like I think last year I have them. I have. Two that are unbuilt but I got a propeller plane and a helicopter and like these are. What's called? Makeup blocks and I have six of them I built for them. There's like a race car, there's AI think a biplant. The pipeline sucks anyway, like just you know like little like stocking stuffers.

35:21 They're just they're just kind of cute. I like them got. The stocking stuffers, we had all the candy that I used to get during Christmas. Holy, Oh my God. Every year we would get like those, like those candy canes, and it would be like the plastic candy canes, but they would be full of like Reese's or whatever. Oh yeah, I remember those. Fuck no. What? Reese's. Yeah.

35:56 Well, well, do you have anything?

36:05 Well, I have things, but I don't know if I have them.

36:10 Yeah, sure. Yep.

36:18 What was? The worst gift everybody's ever gotten. Like either you can. Or stupid. Clothes as a kid, No, I think there was one year where I opened up a gift and it was operation. I never showed any interest in operation and that that set in. It's like, you know, plastic covering for years until my, my, my sister and I, or I guess my sister was like, hey, you want to play operation? I'm like, I guess I'll try it. Played it. Once that was it. OK, no.

36:55 It's not, it's not one of those games that I find any sort of replay value in. I'm like. Especially. When the pieces get stuck in the board, it just never made sense to me. It's like, oh, we take pieces out and we try to not get shocked or you know, you know, have the light light up, whatever. I mean, the idea is you're supposed to have the precision of a surgeon, meaning you can't bump into things like think of it as of having a scalpel. You don't want to stab the wrong artery. That's kind of the idea.

37:30 So you mean. It's like 10s. Of. Parkinson's. My God. I. Have ADHD, I don't. Get the. Patience for that I. Shake too much. That too. But you know, I'm a masochist, you know, I just take the fucking thing. I do not care if you go off, I will get the peace out of you. Oh. I I don't even go for the peace, I just go for the pain.

38:04 Like. Like for me, it doesn't even shock. It's just it, it's just a damn buzzer that just makes you jump up, like, yeah, whatever. Yeah, no, that's what it is. It's a buzzer. Like the the. Dude's nose lights up red. And it. Makes his nose of his life. I I genuinely do not understand why I got operation. Yeah. I get like even even as a kid, I was like, why did I get this? Like this is when did I ever ask, 'cause I like, I like the interactive or yeah, like the more interactive board games as a kid, you know, like sorry or stuff like that.

38:42 Yes, where? You actually get. To like move pieces and draw cards and, you know, maybe mess up your opponent like that was that was. That's. Probably why I like magic because I like to play with the pieces. Honestly, that would make sense. Yeah, that would make sense. Emma. I wonder if I wonder if ours is going to be the same source.

39:11 Oh, no. Good. Lord. Is it from the same person I wonder? That's what I'm wondering too. It's very likely of. Course, I knew it was going to come up eventually. Yeah, lore. Hooray lore. Jay.

39:32 Brandon, Remember, Remember how I have an aunt? Oh no, it's this lore. I had a feeling. It was going to be the same person, Mark. Yeah. Oh no. Hey. Man. I'll talk. No. You. No, you shit your presence out first. God. All right, so Emma's aunt. She's a very. Special lady here. Let me let me preface. Let me preface this woman, you preface. This woman, this. Woman, I don't hate her. Let me say this for the record, I do not hate her. Now I am a vindictive bitch and I have some things that I want to say to her.

40:20 But anyway, she is somebody who. Let's. Call Crafty. She is somebody who will spend nickels and Dimes, which is fine, but she makes and gives gifts that aren't exactly what anybody would really want. And we actually have a family tradition of after when everybody leaves, we call it the pitch party of basically we decide what of her gifts we throw away. So Mark, why don't you go ahead and tell her some of the shit that she's giving you over time? Now I want you to go first because mine will have an even bigger impact.

41:16 Oh God. Yeah. You know. Honestly, honestly I'll be for real with you. I've only, I only remember few gifts that Lady has ever given me. Actually, there was one that I do remember that I really appreciated. She actually gave me my first computer. Oh yeah, it was it was one of those very, very old school blocky box computers with ACD ROM player. Like I'm talking this thing doesn't do anything but AOL and games and I remember playing this one computer game until I basically burnt the bitch out. Kind of love that computer because I grew up poor.

42:09 It was like the fanciest thing I ever owned. Now the worst gift she ever gave me. I think it was the one time she tried to paper mache something for me. I don't even remember what the fuck it was. I think it was a frog statue. She tried paper machining a frog statue for me. It didn't look like a frog, it looked like a goblin. She tried, I suppose. I guess it's the thought that counts, but I don't think I've really ever kept many of her gifts just because they just,

42:52 for lack of better words, it was trash. A lot of those like dollar stores type stuff which is. Fine, like I'm not knocking dollar store things, like sometimes you find some really cool shit at the dollar store. But the problem is, is she buys and makes things that none of us really have any interest in. And I'm not ungrateful for anything that I've ever received from her. It's just, it's not, it's not me, not my taste. I think there's only thing I've ever kept from her was an ornament that she made out of Scrabble pieces.

43:30 But I mean, you know, I thought it was cute. That sounds, that sounds awesome, yeah. It was, it was, it was literally just my name in Scrabble pieces. But I mean, I don't know, I'm trying not to be too hard on her 'cause like, I know she really puts like effort into things that she gets people and, you know, she puts her time and her money into it. It's just. I don't know. I personally am in the belief of if you're going to give somebody a gift, make it to what that person would like, what they would enjoy, what they would use again, display, you know, that kind of thing that would be like if I gave.

44:14 Mark, yeah. That'd be like if I gave Mark like a like a sewing kit, you know? That's not, no, that's not like his thing at all. Not that I would ever see Mark. I don't even. I don't. Even think my fingers would be able to manipulate the fucking needle but it's. It's the principle of match, the gift to the person. That would be something that I would more likely give Ethan, even though he's more into crochet. Yeah. You know, it's, it's just those little things to me that make a gift more special and more meaningful.

44:50 I still, maybe it's because Mark was still kind of new to the family, but I still think of the time when she would give him like treat presents and it'd be like bags of chips, candies. It would be like sodas. And this was like at the time that Mark had no interest in any of that. 90% of the time I think I was eating those baskets. Yeah. Yummy. Yeah. The the first couple of years of our relationship, her aunt. You know, I I kind of wish you would have at least tried a little bit harder. I mean, she never even asked me really what you liked I. Know again it was just chips soda Gatorade which I. Mean is.

45:42 Fine, like that's it. It is a thoughtful thing. Yeah. Mark with somebody who, I mean, could you imagine my drinking Mountain Dew? I can't. Mark is not a Mountain Dew drinker. Yeah, well, yeah. Lose your sperm, Come. Why? What do you drink it? Because that's what I'm so worried about. Man the. Monetization is just taking. What? It's crevice. I, you know, I, I have this, I have the same mentality of if you're going to go out and do gift giving, you need to at least put in a little bit more effort to match the gift to the person.

46:27 I was like, she could have at least, you know, asked. What sort? Of things I was interested in and just Oh yeah, I'll just. Pick up. Some chips and some food and stuff. And I was like, you know, I. Again, no knocking that to people who do that, OK? I don't want to make any audience members mad by people who do that. Yeah, I'm just saying at least like, you know, I've been around for a little while. You could have at least kind of tried to probe and explore that a little bit. Like the first year was like, ha, ha, this is kind of funny, but I understand.

47:03 Second year was like, OK, it's a little awkward. Third year is like, OK, this is kind of getting ridiculous. I've been around for a while.

47:15 But you. Know it's, it's not the worst thing you could possibly get, but I was just like, you know. With. The amount of time that I spent around you and your family, she could have at least picked up on some things. I'm guessing that wasn't the worst gift though, Mark. Honestly, I don't know what would be. How about in general? What was your worst gift? Yeah, I know probably that in all of the states. I mean, I can say one in recent years would would have been actually I think it was last year or two years ago, one of the two.

47:59 I got this like dancing stitch. God damn.

48:08 Yeah. Like toy. I'm just like, I, I I never even took it out-of-the-box. I threw it away after a way too long. But it's like, yeah, I like stitch, but like, this thing takes batteries. Why would I want to put in batteries for I've never under. OK. I know some people like, like the little things where, you know, like the little dancing, you know, stuff or whatever is cute. I get that. But like, for me personally, I'd never understood it. I'm not sure if that's my ADHD or not being like, oh, cool.

48:47 Anyway, there's something more interesting.

48:54 But yeah, I just. Something that wastes batteries. That's what it was in my opinion.

49:00 And it, it sat in my room for, like I said, way too long.

49:12 You know, that's kind of one of the things that I question about like the certain toys they can get for kids. Like, what sort of replayability value does that actually have for her kids? Like, you get a big old robot. It's got the wow factor after. Yeah, for the for the first little bit. After a while it's like you've really explored all the things this toy can do, and then it just sits in a toy chest, never to really be played with again. Oh, Mark, I like to think of it this way. You know, I've been a parent for most of my life to my brother.

49:49 And, you know, every time I've bought them a present, it's not about thinking of, oh, well, where will this toy be in six months? It's more of, oh, this will bring them joy. It'll bring them happiness. You know, they'll play with it for maybe a day, maybe a month, who knows? Who cares? You know, it's just it's about the joy. And there's there's a feeling of joy you get giving that gift to somebody who sees that as like their favorite thing. Yeah. Like, like I said, that's fine. Some people like the dancing stuff, that's cool.

50:25 It's just for me personally, I'm like, I I just never understood it. Hey, I can't get past operation.

50:33 It's been, it's been probably a decade and I've been stuck on when the fuck did I ever show interest? Every single time I've seen operation, like I've had like the most blank stare face you have ever seen me make. Yeah. I want a game that makes me think, For example, when I kicked Mark's ass in Stratego.

51:02 Motherfucker, you just got lucky. You said that when we played Risk. Mark, you want to talk about Lucky? Oh, no, bitch. I didn't think you're just losing your touch here, honey. OK, but I I. Would totally I I don't know how to play risk but like I try it once. This sounds cool. No, Mark seems to think he's the God of all strategy Strategy games, and thereof this motherfucker here. If you're losing to stratego, if you're losing to Risk, maybe you need to re evaluate that title baby. Yeah, Mark, you're losing to the the stratego.

51:37 Oh, your wife even said it all, man.

51:42 I'm sorry but I am an avid Monopoly player and I will say you are losing your touch at strategy. The. A lot of the problems that I have is that I really shit at Doug's throwing. I don't know if that. That's where. A lot of my problem comes in I. Think you have rotten luck in poor strategy? Yeah, Mark, get Rick. You know, next time I play straight Chico, I'll let you win. These are some fucking fighting words and shit. My God this is Christmas, not fucking all out brawling and Jerry Smith just say.

52:16 Jerry, Jerry, Jerry just. Took a. Turn buddy. Gang up on Mark. He's a terrible strategist here. Just. Be in this. Side. I'm going even lower than Mark. I'm going to his big toe.

52:42 We. Have a double pumple game. We still have to do a. What we have? A double pumple to do. Oh, that's right. We have two of them now. Yes. We do. I'm still advocating for one for each person. Well, when you buy 1 you let me know. BYOT bring your own tumble that. Game is so much fucking fun. The viewers don't know what Tumble is. It's basically reverse Jenga. You're basically stacking these stupid ass blocks in the most inconvenient ways you have, and you have blocker pieces. You have like different positions from a dice that you have to roll.

53:28 It's just the most obscene game you have to roll up. Dice and the. Dice can either have like hot dogs so you know, it's it's taller than it is wide hamburger, so it's wider than it is tall, or French fry where it's just the tallest it could possibly be. Or you can get like a a white cap where you can't put it on that white cap or a yellow cap where you cannot place blocks on that block. Oh my God. Playing that at Halloween was fucking hilarious. You can also wait when you get the T the the the tumble.

54:05 Can you? It's any. Position. Can you just grab a cap instead or do you have to play some no? It has to be a black block. OK. I know it'd be funny if you used the thing. I mean, you. I was going to say you could make that a house rule. Yeah, House. Rules. Oh, that's going to be fuckery right there. Yeah, two of them, Yeah, yeah. It's like the multitude of Uno decks that I have. Like it just gets more and more of you have. Too many Uno cards, I'm sorry. Hey man, you know sometimes you just in case you ever.

54:42 Find the situation where you have to entertain a group of 20 people we. Got like I can host at least two or three different Uno games at once. I. Remember Uno when we were playing when it? Wasn't as fuckery fucking. Mark kept fucking me, kept changing for. You God. Damn color, what do you think? I don't remember the last Monopoly game I played. That was the double game we played. Where we each. Rolled one dice. Well. If you want to really play Monopoly, I did purchase the world's longest Monopoly board, no?

55:26 My attention. Is. Insanity. Thanks. Well. I was going to use AD 20 for it, so it could be funny. Well, I was going to. Use my sanity for it. But you know that that'd be gone really fast. I'll. Get you your landinum, we'll be fine.

55:40 You can. Play for me. OK, we had teams the one game we played. I know, and that was the game being Mark one, even though Mark was bitching the whole time. I know.

55:55 Still will. And Scott over here was like, hey, you want to trade that orange or whatever color I had? I'm like, yeah, sure. For 500. Nah, you want to trade that he. Asked like 3. Times he literally, and I'm like, how about for 1000 he's like Nah And then the third time, how about for how about that orange 1500? He's like, Nah, I'm like, it's just going to keep going up and he just braided it. I liked the idea of having teammates. It just it was really hard when you had to try to agree on what you were trading or what you're purchasing.

56:33 It was so difficult to do that. No, I get it. But like, I would do it again. I really would. I'd be down. For regular monopoly which? I do own. I also have Fallout Monopoly for someone named Brandon in here, you know. You know I have Fortnite. I have. Fortnite monopoly. Monopoly. He wants to play Fortnite Monopoly. The goal isn't to capture things, is to survive. If you want to know, I haven't bought a Monopoly board in many, many years. I have a Cleveland Monopoly, I have a Disney, I have Fallout.

57:21 I have Nightmare for Christmas. I have Star Wars. So has she. I. Really went to the. Exchange. There was a whole shelf dedicated to a monopoly. Yeah. I saw that last time and I was like, what are we doing in here?

57:38 Like, I think that's a little much and that's coming from me.

57:44 Got a point? Christmas. Christmas, OH. My God, it's two weeks away. Christmas I. Was lost to two weeks away, sweetheart. Yeah, Quibus, What? Do you guys want for Christmas this year? What do I want? Oh, obviously, Steam gift cards.

58:16 Same. There was something on the list.

58:22 Honestly. Like a steering wheel cover might be nice, but it's not like something I'm hoping for. That would be pretty fucking nice though. I need to do one of those man. Oh fuck, we never. Had one. No. Starch for the car. I don't don't get the wing USB. Plug in ones that heat up. Cool, but man my dumb ass would leave that shit plugged in by accident. I can't trust myself. I. Don't trust you, neither do you? Yeah, I would. I would be lazy and just keep it plugged in so I don't have to plug in and unplug it each time and.

59:03 Then you go outside and wonder why your car won't start. Exactly. Exactly. Like I, I would do that. I, I just, I cannot trust myself with that kind of shit. Not like I was looking for a new steering wheel cover but like I I want one that's like something I like like could be. Like. Fallout related or Sonic or something but none of the shit like either doesn't exist or it doesn't. Look good or it? Doesn't look good, yeah. It drives me. Crazy. One of my favorite series is JoJo. I. Would not be able to find a JoJo steering wheel cover anywhere in the world.

59:52 Maybe like if I go to an event in Japan and they for some God forsaken reason have like JoJo steering wheel covers but like that's it. And. Take us what I found one. Wait. Wait, wait. Seriously. Wait. Hold on. Aliexpress. Is that one from Amazon maybe? That's hilarious. I'll never be able to find one. My wife finds one. Yeah.

1:00:25 I can't find like for me personally. I can't find any anyone that I want. What are? You looking for Oh? I was thinking of ones with the character. Nevermind those those ones characters on them cool. Oh my God, you just made this man this day at night. I'm. Just you know what? No, no. Let me dig my hole. Brandon. You, Brandon. What kind do you want? Yeah. Go right ahead, step right up. I I toot my own. Horn, but I'm really good at finding shit. I'm dog. I'm finding stuff. I guess like if you if you found like find out like maybe like a fallout one that might be like the like vault boy or some shit.

1:01:19 Got it, Walmart. Actually sells the fun fact. What? I'm looking at it right now, 10 bucks stop being wait. Yeah, she's right. I'll do it along with team that's. Where that has the vault text symbol, yeah. I could send you this one, it's literally 10 bucks on Walmart's website. Hang on, I'll send you the link.

1:01:49 Can't you? Find my dad. Hi, Michael. Mark. What time do you want Mark? What do you like? Mark, come on. What else? What? Kind of steering recover you want come on I, I, I prefer having fucking remote start in my car right about now. Remote start stealing recovers. Come on, remote start steering wheel.

1:02:18 OK, but as a person that got a new car and got a remote start installed in his car, it's so fucking nice. You know you. Don't float. About. It the morning when I wake. Up I just I just click the button twice and I hear beep. Beep. Beep. All right, it's on. My car is on. It's warming up. Cool. Now how? About actually, how do my doors get ready, make my food and I get to go outside and it's probably warm. Oh. My God, it's beautiful. See. I told you, Brandon, I find everything Find.

1:02:50 Anything. You just got to ask, man, I'm really good at finding stuff. She's got a point.

1:03:04 Just. Fucking defeated. I yeah, yeah, what the heck? Yeah. So. Yeah. That's. Going to look cool in the car.

1:03:22 Yeah, you OK? And it won't be loose.

1:03:28 Yeah, that's my line. I'm sorry, you can say it I. Don't. Want to? Know. OK. Can I say it then? Yeah. Go ahead, it's ruined. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. Wait, no, I. Just said it now. You have fucked up. I. Did. Remember. Modern problems require modern solutions. Trick your friends into saying things we don't want to. I steal the real covers. Sorry. Christmas, Christmas. Christmas, Christmas. I I, I, I feel, I feel dumb. Yes. Next. Question yes as. We should anything. Else you want me to find for you, Brandon?

1:04:22 That that that I could think of. Not that I can think of. I think the. Funnier part. I think the funnier part is Brandon. It takes a simple Google. It's not hard. That's not gonna lie to you. I hate the Internet. I don't know man, you're a party Internet. Nope, no more. You have a. Digital footprint we love. Our fucking. Cabin in the Woods. Yay. Digital footprint. My data is being sold overseas, Chris, you know. I'm OK with that at this point, Chris. Wait, hold on. Wait. I think I heard that wrong.

1:05:13 Chris. What? Do you think? Overseas my. Digital data. What is your? Dad was being sold. Overseas.

1:05:32 Oh God, what? I mean. I guess that wouldn't be too hard.

1:05:41 It'll fit really well into an envelope. All right, You would. Bye. Yeah, you would. Oh, let's do this for Christmas, everybody. Christmas. Yeah. We. Are so far off the fucking grail. What do you mean? Not. On the rails anymore, we are in the fucking pit.

1:06:06 Yeah, with our. Steering wheel covered fuck. Yeah, Pit Miss. I'm going to be pissed off about this all night now. Well. Brandon, I apologize for pissing you off, but I'm happy I found it for you. I'm. Happy you found it for me. I'm mad at myself for doing. The service big. Blind I have good. Customer service here what can? I please.

1:06:32 Mark, yeah. You never answered the question What's? That what do. You want for Christmas this year? I've. Been saying this entire fucking time I want fucking remote start for the car. You got money for that? The day, well, I found out it's $300.00, so it's never what I thought it was going to be.

1:06:54 God damn. How about you, Brandon? Besides steering wheel covers, what else do you want for Christmas? Well, you know, get that? Nice. No, I know how to find this.

1:07:22 It's the big booty bitches he's looking. For, I mean, you know, could get the triple B. Oh yeah? Oh, I guess you're going to miss the panty raid Panty. Raid, OH. No. Panty Raid.

1:07:41 The panty raid. We're talking girls. Right, girl girls. Man, we're not going to be able to display this on Paramount. Do it anyway. Why? Would I want? Why would I want to do business to Paramount? Fuck them. Here goes the sponsorship. We were never getting it, yeah. Even if we did.

1:08:09 But yeah, for Christmas, you know, could go for a nice Mac mini. That's what I need.

1:08:21 Just a $700. Honestly, that's not that bad in. Well, that's the. Many. How big is the regular version? Well, it. Depends what screen size do you want. There's a good screen. Version 2. So if you want like the 16 inch screen like I want, it's like $2600. Well, yeah, like. The Mac, the MacBook Pros, yeah, yeah, that's what I want. Like I wouldn't mind they are, I wouldn't mind having a new MacBook Pro. But honestly, like at this point, like just looking up things about the new Macs, especially like the Mac mini, you're getting like depending on which one you get, because I think there's AM/4 and M4 Pro CPUs, the regular Mac mini, man, that that thing is, that's a serious power for its little little footprint it takes up on your desk.

1:09:26 It's so like it, it's, I want to say it's like super small. It's not, but it's. It's smaller than what it used to be. But the. Here's. Here's another big thing. How long until you think Apple's going to go ahead and justify even more price increases because of the price of RAM going up? I. Mean, we'll see. I don't know how they're going to. I don't know what they're going to do with that. I don't I don't know if they it's a RAM that they get like that's all soldered on. So I don't know. I don't think they make I don't think they make RAM in house.

1:10:07 I don't look. Look, there's a difference between it actually affecting them and them claiming it affects them. I mean. Yeah, you'll never really know. Yeah. So. I I restate my question. How? Long actually. You think that they're going to raise their prices because the Costa Rica is going up? Probably sometime next year they'll probably give it like. A couple weeks, I mean. Maybe at this point, who the fuck knows. Yeah, but now I like I the the Mac mini definitely now seems like a good like price to performance then what it used to be.

1:10:58 Not saying the Mac mini wasn't good when it was Intel, but a lot of people kind of shield away from it 'cause it was like, you know, it might not serve somebody's workflow or may not be powerful enough for how much you're paying for it. Which can be said about their Macbooks and all that other crap, but but now with them using their own silicon, it's like. The. Performance on these fucking computers and the the fact they also don't get hot. Like a good example, Patrick for work, he's got an M4 Mac MacBook Pro and his old MacBook Pro for work used to get fucking hot.

1:11:51 Yeah, this. One really doesn't. It's cool. It's battery lasts fucking forever even with the intense work he does. Like God, God damn man. Like I I give out full credit with what they're doing. Yeah, like they definitely my God. Look at even gaming is becoming a thing on these machines. Like holy shit like they've got some serious power with their CPU and their GPUs. Like good on you Apple, just for the love of God please lower your fucking prices on your shit. Never. Kind of happen. Nope.

1:12:43 That's. Why I have a lot more interest in Linux gaming starting to become a big thing.

1:12:51 Yeah. Honestly was not on my bingo card this year but honestly. Fucking awesome. That it is. Steam Deck for the wean, but we are at time well overtime, and that's all right. Oh. Shit quiz. Myth. Quiz. Myth. No. Christmas. It's only two weeks away. Die. Hate it only what? Two weeks away only what? Oh yeah, 2. Weeks. Away, you say. There's. No way it's two weeks away. I can't believe it's here, Chris, just. Two weeks away. Whoa, it's like next year. Believe it. It's gonna be a while until the next one.

1:13:40 Did you know that that that girl did like a a sequel recently? Wow. What's even funnier is the original she made in like June.

1:13:52 That. You're something Jesus. I wasn't going to meet her Christmas that she made it. It was like 2 weeks away at least so I've heard.

1:14:04 I could see it. See what exactly? Well. You bitch, now what? What Christmas? Being two weeks away now. Fuck fucky, yeah. Fucky, I can't. Believe it, man, I'm going to. Smack them? Probably. Can I? Well, I hope everybody has a very Merry Christmas that is not two weeks away. It's two weeks. Away. It's 2. Weeks away. It's not two weeks I am going to dead man. We're about to go on Jerry Springer this. This is when we just shut off our mics and go to bed for the night.

1:14:46 Yes. Yeah, because then we'll be closer to Christmas, which is 2 weeks away. Before we lose all of our viewers. All. Right. Who's viewing this? Nah, they listen. We don't have viewers. Lord, have mercy. We've already lost them after the first episode. You know, I wouldn't, I wouldn't blame them.

1:15:09 God damn it. All right, we're ending this better with. Sound quality. Yeah, I'm. Donald Duck quacking into a mic.

1:15:19 I hate everything. Well, I hate that Christmas is just two weeks away, all right? So thank you for taking the time to listen to Plug Over Player 4. Don't forget to wait two weeks for Christmas. Don't listen to. Him. He's off his medication again, Mark. We shall see everybody in two weeks on Christmas, yes. I feel I made you for a reason. Don't know. All right, Because it's two weeks away. It's two weeks, Hey? Player for you, but everybody be safe out there. Yeah, and Merry Christmas, you can now disconnect and.

1:16:07 See you in two weeks for Christmas. Just don't, don't, don't remember. Just episode. It's bad, it's bad. It's that good. Chrysler Woo.

1:16:19 Fuck. Fuck your car.