Video Game Board Games

0:11 Hello and welcome back to Plug In for Player Four.

0:14 I am Mark and I am accompanied with Brandon and Ethan.

0:18 Say hi guys. Hello.

0:20 Hi. Yeah.

0:23 How you guys doing? Hi.

0:25 He's he's on repeat. Hold on.

0:28 Hi. The the record's skipping.

0:31 He'll get back later. We're.

0:33 Already past this. Oh.

0:35 Fuck, I'm doing good. Nothing too spectacular besides

0:46 more dentistry things. That's about it.

0:49 Yeah, that, that that's coming up isn't.

0:52 It another one, but another appointment, but you know, take

0:57 care of your teeth. That's the model for today.

0:59 This chair, I'm going to fuck you.

1:03 Get that chair counter started. Oh, it's going up a lot today.

1:08 Wow. At least.

1:10 He's not allowed. What about you, Mr. Ethan?

1:12 He. Lost his chat.

1:16 So. Actually he's like the one guy

1:18 from Borderlands hell. Yes, Steve.

1:20 I love Steve. So by the time this episode

1:26 comes out the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles set and magic will

1:30 have released and I will have done the pre release with my

1:33 brand new peanut butter's leaves with my my with my friend Corey.

1:38 I have seen some of these cards. Patrick has showed me them.

1:41 Yeah, some of them fucking terrifying me.

1:44 Like the words on the art? The fucking art.

1:47 Have you seen some of the fucking?

1:49 Like yes I have. Like the pizza pizza so fucked

1:52 up. Oh God, I don't get it.

1:56 Some people were like AI this, AI that.

1:58 I don't care. It's a fucking card, dude.

2:00 Plus it's I don't think it's AI. See how that's?

2:05 There was like, I think 2 AI cards in the Latin avatar set,

2:08 but I'm so that might have been like, hey, let's just the

2:11 waters, but I, I don't, I'm not going to get into that.

2:14 That's. That's totally different.

2:16 Yeah, OK. We'll, we'll let that community

2:19 handle that. Yeah, and just.

2:22 It's a card game. Yeah, I'm here to play the

2:25 effects on the cards. As long as the effects on the

2:27 cards aren't AI written, we'll know what that Oh.

2:31 Yeah, you will. Yeah.

2:33 But as long as as long as the cards work, that's all I really

2:37 care for. I'm here for the experience of

2:40 enjoying other people's company. And yeah, just socializing on

2:45 more than could I play commander, not standard.

2:48 I mean none of the one V1 formats but I I just play

2:50 commander the social format and have a blast.

2:53 Say fuck. Everything else and the world.

2:56 Have fun, right? That's all we need to do.

3:00 Yeah, hopefully we go 3 O, but we're probably going to do our

3:02 usual and go 21. Woo, it ain't bad like that's,

3:07 you know. I still think it'd be fun to do.

3:09 On with you. I need it.

3:10 I want to keep bringing it up. I know you will, and I'd like

3:13 that you do. It makes me feel wanted.

3:18 Oh baby no. Oh, Barber.

3:26 There's a. Whole thing behind that, that

3:28 Johnny Bravo shit, that's the the I I God, Mark, do you want

3:33 to? Yeah.

3:33 I'll explain it a little. Bit of time.

3:35 Here. So yeah, we have a little time

3:36 before we actually get truly into the topic.

3:38 Fuck, there was one day we're all fucking around in Discord

3:42 and I don't know how the conversation started, but we

3:46 started talking about Johnny Bravo.

3:48 We'll be like and the brain goes, oh, hey, I sound a lot

3:52 like it. I'd be like, wow, hey, little

3:54 Mama, hey, little Mama. And we're just yeah, be

3:57 intrigued. I quickly after he says that, I

3:59 I just go. So that's why you can't get a

4:02 woman. And it just sent me off the

4:06 fucking charts. Like as soon as Mark says it

4:10 after he's like, I'm sorry. Like I think I kind of went far.

4:14 I'm like, no, that shit was funny as fuck.

4:17 Like it was such a quick witted like saying like.

4:22 And the way I said it too, just quickly into the bike, just so

4:25 that's why you can't get over me.

4:27 And it, it like it itched a part of my brain where just serotonin

4:33 happened and I'm laughing. I had to pause.

4:36 I think it was playing Fallout. I had to pause because it was so

4:39 sudden and fucking hilarious. I was, I, I, I don't know how to

4:45 describe it. It was funny as shit.

4:48 So, so two things come to mind and I don't know which one to

4:51 say first, because it's a it's basically like a branching path.

4:54 But when we were playing Overwatch, me and you, Brandon,

4:58 and I'm like, hey, Brandon, Brandon, I'll go over here, look

5:00 over here. I was playing as Rometra the

5:02 tank and I'm just like I'm I'm moving my character ever so

5:05 slightly as to make movements while I'm going and I just stop

5:09 and I activate shift activated the punching arms and I'm just

5:12 like whoa Mama, like getting really super buff.

5:15 And every little bubble. And he walks away and what the

5:19 fuck that that sent me too. That she was.

5:23 The other one, is this what I originally thought you were

5:25 going to say Mark when you were explaining it, but I forgot it

5:28 went far beyond. Oh yeah, yeah, origins, yeah,

5:33 origins of it. Fucking actually I, I kind of

5:36 forgot the other one. Oh gosh.

5:38 Well, if it comes back, let us know.

5:39 You know, yeah, yeah. That that was, that was really

5:43 funny, my Mama told me. Or warming women like that's

5:47 what it was. You were, you were in the

5:50 discord fucking around with me and he's like, at least I'm

5:53 sorry. No, it was.

5:54 You said you ginger fuck, you know, like at least I'm not 30

5:59 years. Old and it set me like and

6:04 again. Instantly just clap back with.

6:08 The and it it was so fucking. Good.

6:13 It's always the retort. Yes, it that's what he with me

6:18 with my when I've known people long enough, I expect and I fuck

6:23 with you. I expect something clap me back

6:27 because I'm looking for that. That's how my personality is.

6:31 And when you guys deliver, I'm fucking done.

6:35 I am dead because it is such a beautiful fucking.

6:39 Yes, it finally happened. But then like, just just like

6:43 Mark, you're like, actually I kind of went a little far.

6:45 I'm sorry. No, I know I felt bad for

6:48 calling you 30. I'm like, I wouldn't want to be

6:49 called 30. I felt bad for that, no.

6:52 I was like my Oh my God, that's so good.

6:58 That's the kind of shit I I, I look for.

7:01 Like just that, that funny quit. I I know we're a couple of

7:05 months out from your birthday by this point, but I I just like

7:09 how the 30 year old jokes have been evolving.

7:13 Yes, they have. Divorced, subtler, drawn out

7:15 versions. Instead of it just being

7:18 blatantly about being 30, Yeah, it.

7:20 Just sucked. We give it a little storyline

7:22 before we hit it with the point of, Oh yeah, you're 30.

7:25 Oh yeah, you're 30 fucking card. It's like hell.

7:27 Hey, what's up? You 30 year old?

7:29 How are you? How are you holding up?

7:30 You 30 year old? Oh, what?

7:31 You know, like being called 30 year old, you 30 year old.

7:33 Well, you know, congratulations on being 30 years old.

7:38 I I don't remember what I said the other day where it was just

7:42 kind of drawn out, but the yeah, you're fucking old.

7:46 Yeah, they're saying something just really long drawn out, and

7:49 it ends with, yeah, you're old. And I'm like, wow, that went

7:55 somewhere. It's like there's you on a

7:58 roundabout Outback to see. Yeah, it's, it's like those

8:01 jokes where you're, you just messed with the person.

8:03 Yeah. So I wanted to ask you a

8:04 question and I, I don't mean to, you know, be to interrupt you or

8:07 anything. And I hope this is OK to ask

8:09 you, but I, I just don't want to, you know, make sure I'm not

8:11 pushing any boundary or anything.

8:13 What are you doing today? Good.

8:17 You're just like drawing it out. Like, come on, go to the

8:22 question. Go to the.

8:22 Question. How you doing?

8:24 Fuck me. I, I, I think my, I think my

8:28 favorite one of that was a, a, a watch pot doesn't boil.

8:35 So I, I, I'm a test me with making dinner one night and I

8:40 was like, OK, I'm kind of busy with, with other stuff.

8:42 So I'm like, I'm on Discord with Braden and Jack and I'm like,

8:47 cool, I I need to go do something right now.

8:49 And I'm in the back of my mind. I'm like, this is going to be

8:52 fucking funny. So I'm like, hey, can you guys

8:55 do me a favour while I go run this run errand real quick?

8:58 And Braden and Jack go, yeah, I said, hey, can you watch this

9:01 pot real quick? I set up the camera on Discord

9:05 to watch the pot. Yes, quite fucking.

9:07 Literally yes. And then I'm like just just make

9:11 sure it just just keep an eye on the pot of water, water while

9:14 you go out and do this. So 5 minutes come by, I come

9:17 back and I'm like, hey, thanks guys, thanks for watching The

9:19 pot brand's like no, yeah, no problem.

9:22 I said, Oh yeah, not boiling still.

9:24 And then I'm like, yeah, that I guess that's what I get because

9:27 a wash pot doesn't boil. Just talking up.

9:32 Oh. Yeah, and he was.

9:34 Yeah. God God, God fucking damn it.

9:39 It's like now I can watch the pot myself to make sure it's

9:41 boiling when it needs it to. Be it, it, it was very

9:46 thoughtfully planned that it, it, it's kind of hard to, it's

9:50 probably hard to understand, but it, it's it, it was funny.

9:54 That might get mad at me. Yes, she did.

9:57 I think she smacks you. I.

9:59 Think she did too. She was like that joke sucks.

10:03 Like in the background, just fucking.

10:07 Oh, you suck. Your jokes are bad and you

10:11 should feel bad too. Before, I'm sure, before we get

10:14 on your topic, Mark, I got to tell you this awesome Ethan,

10:19 too, When me and Emma we're playing repo and that one

10:27 creature that throws his head at you, you know that explodes.

10:30 Yeah. And then explodes.

10:33 So I was in the other room and she was in the room ahead of me,

10:36 and I'm trying to protect the fucking Gart from this damn

10:39 thing 'cause it was blowing everything up.

10:41 But I guess Emma was up high somewhere.

10:44 We're on the museum level and she's like, yeah, you can miss

10:48 me, fat ass. And then she gets hit by the

10:53 head and the, I forget what she said after that.

10:58 I was like, oh shit, like it. It was fucking funny because

11:01 it's all muffled and shit because it's been on the wall.

11:03 Yeah, fucking so fucking stupid. But what is the topic today?

11:13 Just real. Quick, have you seen that that

11:15 clip on repo where there's a a girl's talking?

11:21 She's like, you all need to call me a pretty Princess because I

11:26 won and she's got the crown on her head.

11:28 At the end of the game. You have a guy talking me with,

11:32 like, a British accent. He's like, you're such a

11:34 beautiful Princess. A guy with a sultry voice trying

11:38 to be like, yes, you're such a beautiful Princess, honey.

11:41 And then the third guy goes, oh, yeah, you're such a good

11:45 Princess. Oh yeah, the Wisconsin accent.

11:50 God damn it. Search it up is beautiful.

11:55 Oh yeah, you're such an amazing Princess.

11:59 God fucking damn it. Fucking damn it.

12:04 Just just a beam of the week for you guys to go dumpster diving

12:07 for. That.

12:09 That should be a a segment of the fucking podcast.

12:12 Meme of the week Meme of the. Week anyways.

12:16 You don't want to see what's in my brain.

12:17 I have like an encyclopedic knowledge of some memes that you

12:21 wouldn't you would have like, yeah, that does exist, doesn't

12:24 it? I recognize this.

12:27 It's from an age before the age meme of the.

12:29 Week we sports bowling strike logo.

12:32 Wow. Nice cock, I was just.

12:36 Thinking that, well, let's see if if you're an encyclopedia of

12:39 memes, are they going to get us cancelled?

12:42 Oh God. No.

12:42 Oh, OK, cool. Wow.

12:45 Well, I know yours will. Mine will too.

12:48 Most of the time, yeah. Mine are kind of bad.

12:50 No, it's. The funny ones where like

12:51 someone slams the table fuck and then they get zooms out.

12:54 There's just the word fuck at the bottom with the black border

12:56 I love. Those kind of memes that are

12:58 just so fucking outrageously stupid that it's just, it's,

13:02 it's just funny. Well, I'm going to go ahead and

13:07 segue off of Ethan's mentioning of magic.

13:11 And we're. Going to talk about video games

13:14 and board games this week. So I want to talk about if, if,

13:21 if, if there's a board game that exists or a video game of a

13:24 board game that exists already and we don't know about it.

13:27 I want to apologize in advance, but I want to talk about video

13:31 games that we think would make great board game adaptations or

13:36 vice versa, board games that would really benefit from having

13:40 a video game adaptation. Yes, You with the hand up.

13:45 May I go first? Yeah, sure.

13:48 OK, go. Yeah, so so you understand the

13:50 topic. We're talking about yes, yeah,

13:52 yeah. So.

13:53 So if if a video game can be made into a board game or if a

13:58 board game could be made into a video game, so.

14:00 So I, I just want to start off by saying I hope that Terraria

14:05 gets a board game soon. It's it's getting a board game.

14:11 Yeah. Yeah, I was.

14:12 Just about to say we already know this, I'm just.

14:14 I, I'm sorry, it's, it's the perfect time to bring it up

14:16 because I'm so fucking excited for it.

14:18 It apparently arrived in the docks or whatever.

14:23 So it's the. Country now on the 14th.

14:25 Oh fuck yeah. Cool, we're playing that.

14:27 Yes, we. Are we have to plan a game night

14:29 around it? Yes.

14:30 Yes. Well, I guess you wanted to

14:33 describe the board game to them. I've.

14:35 Been following the notes. I don't I haven't seen gameplay

14:38 too much. I guess there was like a rule

14:41 book that you could have read at some point, but I haven't looked

14:44 at it And they've, you know, because they want to player

14:45 feedback and be like, does this, does this does this make sense

14:47 to you guys? Does this explain it thoroughly

14:49 and clearly? Or do we need to change the the

14:52 the wordage? Oh, you won't know until you

14:55 actually start playing it, right?

14:57 But, and yeah, I did back it I, I did the Hellstone pledge.

15:01 So I, I got the neoprene mad and everything, the cards leaves

15:04 everything for it and it all comes in and it's really nice,

15:06 neat box. I like the whole process of it.

15:08 They were like, Oh yeah, like if you, if we reach this much

15:11 pledge, this is when I was still on Kickstarter.

15:14 If we reach this much pledge, then you'll get printed 'cause

15:17 it was just originally wooden blocks, you'll get printed

15:20 wooden blocks instead or plastic piece, something like that.

15:23 And then yeah, yeah, if we, if we get this much pledge, then

15:27 we'll get instead of just a blue king slime, you'll get a clear

15:33 blue king slime. And then that's pretty cool.

15:35 That's pretty cool. Yeah, and you can you can kind

15:38 of take off. It's weird, like the outer bit

15:41 of King Slime to make him smaller and then the crown will

15:45 fit back into place. It it, it looks it's solely the

15:48 shape of King Slime too. It's it's really cool.

15:51 Everything about it is awesome. And.

15:54 Yeah, they've just been hard at work trying to get everything

15:58 smoothly. And there was even a point with

16:00 the tariffs where you're like, oh shit, right when the tariffs

16:04 hit is when the Kickstarter happened and they were like, we

16:08 have ultimately made decision to to tank the hit.

16:10 I'm like, thank God, thank God. Good people.

16:14 But I, I cannot wait to play it. It's, I think it's going to be

16:18 fun. I'm not sure how long the game

16:19 is, but I think it's one to 688 players, not like that.

16:25 And you have your player card right?

16:28 Well, you have the armor cards and it's all clear, so you can

16:31 just place it on top of your player card and it'll your

16:35 character will look like they have the armor on.

16:36 That's cool. That's.

16:37 Fucking cool. It's.

16:39 Really fucking cool. Dude, yes.

16:42 Now now is it is it a Co-op game or is it a PvP game?

16:46 I don't. Know I know it's Co-op but I'm

16:48 not sure if PvP is a factor. I wouldn't.

16:51 I would I would say I'd be surprised if it was a PvP

16:54 aspect. That sounds more like an

16:56 adventure type game to me. Yeah, I'm.

16:57 Not sure how many bosses there are either.

16:59 I believe they have. I have sorry Brain of Cthulhu.

17:03 I think I may, yeah. I have Cthulhu in which I think

17:06 you can swap out the the eye, eye and then put in the mouth

17:09 instead for the second phase that's.

17:11 Cool, that's awesome. That is such a great.

17:14 Detail I know and and I think with the king slime you can get

17:18 like little tiny slimes too to go with it Not many yes, I I

17:23 have to go back through it. I might be speaking some shit

17:26 out of my mouth with this yeah pinch of salt, but no, it's I've

17:31 been following every single every month.

17:33 It's just like Oh yeah, update 44 I'm like we're already on 44.

17:36 I remember 22 being last week. What do you mean?

17:40 I cannot wait to play that. That sounds like such a labor of

17:43 love it. Yes, Yeah, yeah, that's.

17:47 So it is. Like it's not made by I don't

17:53 remember who the developers of Terraria are.

17:54 It's not, but like the people that made it.

17:57 Yeah, I think it's fire. Forge or something, they I think

18:01 they're going to do a great job, yeah, especially with all the

18:04 player feedback, like all the player.

18:06 Feedback. It sounds like they're taking it

18:08 seriously, which is something that that I really do enjoy make

18:11 it as. Good as possible, yeah, but.

18:12 Anyway, going back I think there's going to be Bring the

18:15 Cthulhu Eye of Cthulhu, King Slime, and B&B.

18:23 I'm not sure if there's any more past that, but that's all I've

18:26 seen. There's got to be more past

18:29 that. I mean it.

18:30 Might already be a pretty long game with just those 4 bosses.

18:35 Cause. 'Cause as you move around, you

18:37 literally take cards off the top and you start placing the world

18:40 piece by piece. Oh, that's so.

18:42 Cool, that's. Cool, you have your.

18:44 Spawn and you can move left or right and be like, all right,

18:46 here's the left or here's the right piece.

18:47 But then you I I think you start off with three cards.

18:49 You can move underground and everything and that's cool,

18:52 yeah. That's really cool.

18:54 I cannot wait for this. Well, Brandon, do you have an

18:58 idea? I again, rules are either a

19:03 video game that you want to see adapted into a board game or a

19:07 board game that you want to see adapted into a video game.

19:10 So monopoly. Doesn't count, I was going.

19:13 To say it's got like. Multiple iterations I was going.

19:15 To I was about to say like monopoly does not count, no.

19:18 That is. Not it's just themed yeah, it's

19:21 not a like whole new game Yeah it.

19:23 It's just Oh, yeah. So having a, a little bit of

19:29 knowledge of some already, like made a video game adaptations of

19:36 board games. I know there was one for Mario,

19:43 so I believe there isn't one for Sonic.

19:47 I don't think as far as my knowledge goes, like it's, it's

19:56 hard to make a like, let's say like Mario or Sonic.

20:02 They're kind of hard to make into a legitimately good board

20:07 game just because they're. They're, they're, they, I, I

20:10 think, I think the platformer's kind of very limited on that,

20:14 yeah. Because.

20:16 Because the game's mechanics don't really translate well like

20:19 Terraria. That game translates really

20:21 well, yes. Yeah, yeah, but but.

20:24 Something like a platformer. Traditionally I I can't really

20:28 see it unless if hear me out you take an adaptation of like Mario

20:34 Party. That at that point.

20:37 At that point. It's already.

20:38 In a video it's already in a board game format.

20:41 Yes, you could probably do something weird about the the

20:44 mini games but I mean. There was a person or yeah, a

20:49 person on YouTube that made, I think it was for a charity

20:55 stream. They made Mario Party into a the

20:58 actual phys. There was four people playing

21:00 and there was an announcer. I think he was dressed up as

21:02 Toad and everything and Toad that was in the shop and be

21:05 like, oh, what would you like to bridge this and everything?

21:07 Oh, that's cool. Yeah, so when someone.

21:09 Was dressed up as Bowser and he was stomping around.

21:13 It was. It was funny as shit.

21:18 I guess. Kind of.

21:19 Does that mean I can dress up as Goomba and I have to smash my

21:21 face to interact with everything Goomba?

21:23 Fuck you. I'm just thinking about Mario

21:27 Party or oh shit he broke it over the case.

21:32 You guys remember that that one mini game of Mario Party where

21:35 you have 3 characters on the outside of the the balls that

21:40 you had to hit to try to not or or to try to hit the sequence I.

21:46 Don't know what you're talking about.

21:47 Which one? So So what game I.

21:51 It's a mini game where it's a 3V1.

21:54 Yeah. Sorry, what?

21:54 Mario Party God, if you can remember 'cause I played Eda's

22:01 cart, yes, I can't remember. The specific one I I can

22:08 describe the mini game. Oh, OK, go.

22:11 For that then, yeah, so. You have a A.

22:14 You have a diamond of just red balls that you have to hit in

22:19 one glows and you have to hit all of the glowing balls within

22:25 a certain time limit. OK.

22:28 And one person, the one person on their own, spawns inside and

22:33 the three other people spawn outside.

22:37 And for all the other characters it's a punchy animation.

22:41 But with Goomba you just charge head first into him because he

22:44 got no fucking. Smashing your face.

22:48 Into everything. Oh.

22:50 I think, you know, you're talking about.

22:51 Yeah. OK, OK, Now I, I was trying to

22:55 imagine that I was following you.

22:56 Following you. I'm like ah.

23:00 So so in the real life one just dress up as Gooba.

23:03 The only thing you could do was just cod.

23:05 Smash your fucking head into it. That's that's funny.

23:08 Jesus Christ, I'm thinking. I wonder.

23:14 How like how Fallout could be in like a like it's own.

23:20 Yeah, I know there's like a there's like a card game.

23:22 Yeah, there. There's like a Fallout card

23:24 game, but there's also like themed Fallout games like we

23:27 have a Fallout monopoly yes I mean, but a stand alone like

23:30 tabletop RPG that could be good yeah I.

23:34 Was thinking like what if it was a instead of a board game, it

23:37 was a tabletop game much like Marvel, Marvel, Marvel Crisis

23:44 Protocol or. Or like war.

23:47 Hammer Yeah. D&D.

23:49 Yeah, like. See that?

23:49 I think that was like where you. Could like pick three figures

23:52 you have. It's of a vault master.

23:57 It's. AI was thinking like, oh you

23:58 have Preston, you have three dog and Rosie, I don't fucking know,

24:03 dog meat. Or something.

24:04 Yeah. Yeah, it's of a dungeon Master.

24:08 It's a vault. Yeah, it's a vault keeper, A

24:10 fault Overseer the. Yeah.

24:12 The overseer? Yeah, like that could be

24:14 something like I honestly would like to see that.

24:18 Yeah, that'd. Be pretty cool because I was.

24:20 Thinking what if we? I mean this probably not even on

24:23 your guys radar but double O 7 from way back when and throwing

24:29 that into a tabletop. So like.

24:33 So you're talking about like Goldeneye, Yeah.

24:35 Yeah, that's what it's called. So with Goldeneye, are you

24:39 talking about like N64 or are you talking like yeah, the.

24:44 64164 yeah, the old, old one, you know, we have odd job where

24:50 everyone fucking hated him, but yeah, Oh yeah.

24:52 Fucking odd job. Well.

24:53 You could turn that into a probably a good board game, if

24:56 not a tabletop. Yeah, I'm sure you could.

25:01 You know, you'd have to like figure out the rules and like

25:06 where you could respawn or whatever I can see.

25:08 It be a game of positioning, yes.

25:11 God, for sure, yeah. Kind of like that's a good one.

25:15 A board game version of XCOM. I mean, yeah.

25:21 That would be. That'd be something that that

25:23 is. Kind of in a sense cuz is it you

25:26 take your turn or you move a unit, the enemy moves the unit.

25:29 Yeah, OK, I was gonna say and. Then if you want to take a shot,

25:33 you have to you have to be within a certain distance of

25:37 cuz. That then.

25:38 You have to account for cover and then you do dice rolls.

25:42 So I only have played Spearhead. This is Warhammer.

25:47 This isn't 40K. This is just Warhammer.

25:49 Yeah, Yeah. And Spearhead is kind of its own

25:51 encompass thing. As far as I know, you don't have

25:54 point values. It's just you buy a box of an

25:56 army and that is your army. And they're pretty small games.

26:00 It's it's four turns and the game's over.

26:02 OK, but each so they're. Like little micro battles?

26:06 Yes, and. Pretty much you move your units

26:11 and you fight. There's more to it.

26:15 I'm not going to get too into it, but you move your units on

26:17 your turn and then you fight, and then they move their units

26:20 on their turn and they fight, and then that's one round.

26:22 You have three more to go. But it's not like you move a

26:27 unit, they move unit. It's just you move everything

26:30 and then fighting happens. Yeah.

26:33 That's pretty cool. Monster Hunter?

26:41 How would that be? Would that be a tabletop type

26:45 thing or a board game? I can see it being played out

26:50 like Munchkins I. Didn't even think about that.

26:54 Yeah, yeah. OK, now I'm looking at Monster

26:57 on our theme Munchkin. Yeah, I can see Monster Hunter

27:02 being played out like a Munchkins game where you have

27:05 your character, you can change its class, change its weapon

27:10 depending on the class, and change its armor abilities based

27:13 on the class. And then you just collect stuff

27:17 as you go and you get stronger. Like I I could see that working

27:21 out really well for the Monster 100 formula.

27:23 That would be. So good they don't, but that

27:25 would be so good, yeah. Yeah, Oh yeah, I'm.

27:28 Putting a 5050, I'm finding a level 50 plutonium dragon.

27:32 Oh, we're both at 62. I win, I copy it.

27:35 I hated you so much for that. What is?

27:39 What is this SO? You think you go ahead and

27:41 explain this so. In this game, you have you ever

27:44 played Munchkin before? No.

27:46 So there you start off in room 0 and you kick down the door and

27:51 then an event happens or you can like there's you fight a.

27:54 Monster. Yeah, but you?

27:55 Kick down the door, you fight a monster, and if you get past it,

27:58 cool. Sometime up into the.

27:59 Next group sometimes. There's a negative effect, like

28:04 let's say for example you fight a siren and if you lose as a

28:09 male or you have to fight it if you're a male, if you're a

28:13 female character, you can just walk right past it.

28:17 Or if it's in the case of Plutonium Dragon, which is the

28:21 highest? Yeah, it says like level 50 and

28:24 like 50. You have to beat power 50 and

28:27 you can equip armor and gear one handed 200 items.

28:30 Depends. Also like shield, swords,

28:32 whatever that that. Gimmicks for different

28:34 characters and stuff. Yeah.

28:36 And how how how the fighting works is highest number wins.

28:40 Yep. And so you have to keep.

28:41 Boosting your power level either with permanent buffs with the

28:46 items and the weapons that you're carrying, or with

28:50 temporary buffs for that round only.

28:52 Yeah, because. You have extra cards in your

28:54 hand because as you defeat monsters, you get rewards.

28:56 You can draw cards, Yeah. And Plutonium Dragon is, I

29:00 believe, if you're past level 6, I think, but he was on level 10.

29:07 And once you beat level 10, you get to the treasure room and you

29:10 win the game. OK, but Mark flips over the

29:13 Plutonium Dragon. He's like, all right, I got

29:15 this. I'm pretty strong.

29:16 So he starts playing cards to get to like I.

29:18 Was I was really strong that round.

29:20 I was playing as he a paladin. I think I.

29:23 Can't remember. Yeah, but but Mark, he was up

29:26 there in power and so me and my brother were playing and we kept

29:31 increasing the power. Like he was like, Oh yeah, I'm

29:33 52. The OK, I had five to the

29:35 monsters power. I had five to myself.

29:37 I had two to the monsters power. I had three to myself.

29:39 So it's like a fight, but he's like 65 versus 67 and I'm like,

29:45 all right, I want to copy the dragon.

29:47 So you have to fight two of them, doubling its power.

29:50 He's like, fuck you, because if you die to the plutonium dragon,

29:53 you'll lose the game. You're out.

29:56 Yeah, you. Just can't play anymore, you're

29:58 stuck. What the fuck?

30:02 Yeah. Yeah, I I got my power up as far

30:06 as I could. I was like, all right, I'm at

30:08 66. And then Ethan's like, oh, yeah,

30:11 now you got to fight two of them.

30:12 I'm like, fuck you. Luckily I had a card to get

30:16 away, but I was so mad because I lost, Oh my.

30:19 I lost the game because of that. Somebody else got to the room

30:24 first. I was like what the fuck?

30:26 That's that. Wow.

30:28 Yeah, my guy, I was livid. We should play my.

30:31 Because like if you're, I think 6 or below, he just flat out

30:35 ignores you. Yeah, but we should play it

30:38 sometimes if it's a fun game. But it sounds like fun.

30:41 I could. I could totally see a Monster

30:43 Hunter Munchkin game that would be that'd.

30:46 Be cool, that would. Be fun, Capcom, if you're.

30:47 Listening here's here's my suggestion.

30:54 Do it. Come on.

30:55 Do it also. We love you guys.

31:00 Keep up with. The good work.

31:02 I really hope that that my Monster Hunter Magic the

31:05 Gathering secret lair comes to fruition.

31:10 All right, I guess it's my turn now.

31:13 Yes, I. Don't know if there already is a

31:17 digital version of this, but House or Haunted House on the

31:21 Hill I feel would be really good with the with the digital

31:26 version. Most of it, because it's such a

31:30 complex game, it's very hard to keep track with track of all the

31:35 rules is just people playing a tabletop game.

31:39 And that would. Actually make it so much easier

31:41 because in the rules it's a if you are the bad guy at the end

31:45 of the game, you have to leave the room for a second yeah, as

31:49 everyone discusses what the what The thing is and you get your

31:52 own rule book if you're the bad guy.

31:53 But I could totally see a thing where it's turn based and each

31:56 turn you follow the the person that is currently playing.

32:00 Yeah, but it. It is so complicated.

32:05 I feel just having a a digital playing field to house all the

32:11 rules and deal with it for you would be really good it.

32:15 Just the just the set, the the theatre of the mind.

32:20 I can totally see it on like a 2D plane.

32:23 Yeah. And it kind of papery.

32:27 Yeah. And then you have your own

32:28 character that's also papery, but standing right up.

32:31 And, you know, they have their different orientations and

32:34 walking around and everything. Yeah, different animations.

32:37 But then like once someone goes to the basement, even though

32:40 you're on like you may like go, you may be looking at the the

32:44 base floor, like you can kind of see underneath because, you

32:48 know, it's just paper thin layers.

32:50 Yeah, I can just totally say that right now, yeah.

32:53 And like going back to one of the one of the, the, the hunting

32:58 events, I remember I got to be the hunter the one time.

33:03 And it's like, Oh yeah, remove your piece from the board, but

33:06 remember where you are because you're technically invisible.

33:10 What? I don't remember that.

33:12 And you had to keep track of where you are, so you had to

33:14 hunt down people and like, how can I keep track of?

33:18 This, yeah, Really my thing, though, is the one, the one that

33:22 we got when we played, I think the first time at my house.

33:27 It was me, you, Mark. I don't think Jared was there.

33:32 Emma was there. She loves that my.

33:34 Brother was there. Was it just the four of us?

33:37 I think it was someone else. I think it was the.

33:39 Four of us. Anyway, my brother became the

33:42 bad guy, so we had to like, leave the room and read his rule

33:45 book, whatever. And it was like, oh, yeah, so

33:47 there's my brother. He's the bad guy, but there's

33:49 also this monster. You can kill him.

33:51 He can deal damage to him and he can damage you.

33:54 But he will come back in a couple turns unless you have the

33:58 knife of evil, which I had. So I'm like, all right, I stab

34:03 him with the knife of evil, finishing him off.

34:06 What, like the monster, not my brother.

34:09 But it doesn't say anything about the the my brother dying.

34:13 So do we win because we killed the monster?

34:15 Do we still have to fight my brother?

34:17 Yeah. What are we doing here?

34:19 It's it's. Very complicated it it, there's

34:23 so many different minutia rules that is very hard to keep track

34:28 of. So I I feel having a digital

34:32 version of the game would probably be a lot easier than

34:34 getting people into it because there's so much organization, so

34:40 many things to keep track of. Just having something digital to

34:43 do it for you would be a lot better.

34:45 Beware developers, this is our suggestion, yeah.

34:50 Oh. I just got an awesome idea.

34:52 Go for. Go for it.

34:53 Please go for how would. You feel about make way in a

35:00 board game? Hello, yes, you just build it

35:08 like the Oh my God, that would be cool.

35:11 I'll, I'll. Do you one better?

35:13 So you know those old RC cars that race tracks?

35:17 Oh my. God, yeah.

35:19 That's what that yes, fuck. Remote.

35:22 Controlled little cars, yeah. Jesus Christ.

35:25 Fucking and and these like track pieces will be attached by like

35:28 magnets or some shit. Like the fuck cool that would

35:33 be. Yeah.

35:33 Developers, please God please please please please.

35:36 Like I am in a creative mood. The juices are flowing now.

35:41 We're getting up there. I'm still.

35:43 Stuck I only I only did one thing and that was Terraria

35:46 which is kind of semi already a thing.

35:50 Do you want me to take another one or?

35:53 Yeah, I'm still trying to think. Give me a moment.

35:56 OK take. Your time, go ahead, I got

36:00 cooking. Well, we already know this is a

36:03 thing, but the I'm I 'cause I think it's a thing.

36:07 Isn't Phasmo doing that a board game?

36:10 I think they are doing a board game.

36:11 I know. I know Dead by daily or or Yeah,

36:15 Dead by daylight. That's the that's the

36:17 multiplayer asymmetric one, right?

36:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where where where you have the,

36:23 the, the the Hunter than the four survivors.

36:26 Yeah, yeah. Dead by Daylight has one.

36:29 I don't know about Fasmo, I swear.

36:30 I think fasmo does or or it's becoming a thing yeah cuz I.

36:34 Know, I know they're focused on their 1.0 release this year,

36:37 yeah. I.

36:38 Actually just got a really good idea.

36:40 All right, do it. So there's this game.

36:42 I played it. I didn't play it too much, but

36:46 it's called Astria 6 sided oracles.

36:48 You guys might know what I'm talking about and this is a

36:52 rogue like deck builder where you have dice instead of drawing

36:57 actual cards yeah and depending on cuz you're like, Oh yeah at

37:01 the start of your turn, roll 4 dice from your deck.

37:03 And so you do that and here's here's your signs that they

37:06 rolled on here's the effects that you get to play.

37:11 I was thinking if you even if you had to get 3D printed dice

37:15 or whatever and stick magnets on each side and then print the

37:19 faces of the dice, because you can, you can upgrade certain

37:22 faces of the dice during throughout the game in the video

37:25 game. And so the problem is there's

37:29 six different characters. That's a lot of dice and a lot

37:33 of mechanics. So maybe you know, two or three

37:35 characters, whatever and you just, they have these base dice

37:42 and you can take off the faces whenever you want Yeah, You can

37:45 still roll the dice and they'll stay in place.

37:46 Yes And you get, oh, you get to a shop where you can upgrade one

37:49 of your dice. So you do that, you take off one

37:51 of the pieces, you grab another symbol or whatever and place it

37:54 on there. And you know, as you fight

37:57 different enemies, they have different effects and

37:59 everything. I feel like that'd be a pretty

38:02 cool way to go about it, cuz Sleigh the Spire kind of does

38:05 the same thing where, I mean, they don't have dice, but they

38:08 have cards. Yeah, yeah.

38:09 And they have sleeves. And so you shuffle your deck,

38:12 whatever, as you upgrade a card, you take out of the sleeve, turn

38:16 it around, put it back in, That's the upgraded side, which

38:20 is pretty ingenious. Yeah, really.

38:23 But I think if you had that, like modular dice, you could set

38:29 it up how the game tells you to and then upgrade it however you

38:33 please. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'd be

38:36 cool. Yeah.

38:40 But I, I feel like that would be a, you know, pretty big box just

38:45 isn't. You have to store all the dice

38:46 and then all the different faces of the dice.

38:48 Like it's just, it's just cool to imagine.

38:51 Yeah. Yeah.

38:53 I mean never say never. I mean, I highly doubt it, but

38:57 highly doubt. It yes, but.

38:58 I'd say for that game, but in a similar concept, I.

39:03 Don't think. I would say never, sorry, never

39:05 say never. For the concept in general of

39:08 modular dice and upgrading them in a game.

39:10 Yeah, yeah, yes. I could see some ways of that

39:16 being accomplished. That would be really cool, yeah.

39:20 So I this is not really a serious one.

39:24 I just want to Ethan's going to have a great face after this.

39:29 How about that that make a board game out of that one game that

39:32 made you rage? Soccer story.

39:35 Yep. There, there's my face, here's

39:38 his face, there it is. That's just a joke.

39:41 One. I could just he would buy it.

39:44 Fucking. Gotta spy.

39:46 It and then. Burn it those.

39:52 Goddamn athletic fucking track athletes of children wearing

39:59 diapers. That's those.

40:02 Fucking it piss filled kindergarteners sticking their

40:09 fingers in their nose, digging for boogers and eating them.

40:16 God, they. Just learned how to stand

40:20 yesterday. I'm I'm not that I'm angry.

40:30 Still my favorite episode that I've edited.

40:33 Fucking make these fucking babies.

40:41 That shit was so fucking Oh my God.

40:49 I'm just like. These little fucking babies.

40:52 You fucking edit it, read down the notches.

40:54 I'm like, Oh my God. Shut up, I'm not done.

40:59 Shut up, I'm not done yet. This one might be kind of

41:10 because I don't know, I don't know if there's just maybe not

41:11 enough substance in it, but like amnesia, how would you do that?

41:19 I mean the. Whole point about the game is

41:20 that is dark, dingy and scary. Yeah.

41:23 If you're going to play a board game, you need like to see it,

41:25 yeah. I What if they?

41:26 Close in the dark. There are there is a board game

41:30 that you can play in the dark, and the whole premise of it is

41:34 what? Twister.

41:38 So the premise of it is your campers and there's a monster

41:42 and you have to use tree coverage to hide yourself from

41:46 the monster piece which emits light.

41:49 And then on the monster's turn it moves and if it sees you, it

41:54 attacks you. And how you can determine if it

41:58 sees you is if your piece is in the light after the monster

42:02 moves. Yeah, yeah.

42:05 But again, Amnesia is more of a nation that it's it's it's a

42:10 horror based game. Yeah, there's.

42:12 Really like. I said not a lot of substance

42:14 there that could be trans, yeah. Like like, like I can see dead

42:18 by daylight. That's that's a very good

42:20 transition. But you know, Amnesia is a very

42:24 atmospheric game that I just, I don't think you can really

42:28 recreate in like a tabletop version too well.

42:32 Like even even Dorafromantic does have a have a board game.

42:37 And I like, I'm just looking at these tiles.

42:40 I'm like this, this isn't the same.

42:41 Yeah. This really isn't the same.

42:44 And it yeah. You have to have a healthy mix

42:48 of atmosphere as well as how can you recreate the feel of the

42:53 game? Yes, in analog terms, right?

42:58 Yes. So.

43:00 That's sort of the difficulty you're running into, yes.

43:02 I don't think Amnesia would be able to get a good analog for

43:07 that just because it's, like I said, it's a very atmospheric

43:10 game and you just can't really translate that well to.

43:14 Something that's tabletop and see something.

43:15 That's tabletop because it it relies a lot on darkness on set

43:21 pieces and sound, to the point where I, I, I think it would

43:26 lose quality in itself if you tried to adapt it that way, I

43:30 mean. Similar vein, I'm not sure how

43:33 this one would work, but what if there was a Five Nights at

43:36 Freddy's board game? I can try to see it.

43:40 Yeah, I. Can see it more based off the

43:42 1st yeah, yeah. Just just simply manage your

43:47 power and keep keep them out of the the security room.

43:51 You could probably do something like that.

43:53 It's just. I mean you probably have to like

43:55 do some play testing, I just don't know how you would smooth

43:57 out power with what are when are what slash, when are your

44:02 actions of you compared to the animatronics I, I.

44:06 Could see something kind of like Dice Throne where not not really

44:12 dice though that doesn't want to do it justice, but you you'll

44:16 have like power tokens that you have to manage of course.

44:19 And depending. On what actions you do during

44:22 the turn, you expend some power and you just had to you had to

44:27 last six turns or something. I think it could actually be

44:33 maybe? More than just.

44:34 But you would have to put it a lot of thought into it, yes.

44:37 I think, I think more than six turns because that's just too

44:40 short, but it's pretty. Short, but you definitely don't

44:43 want. It to be longer either, yeah,

44:45 like maybe. You, but you kind of get, you

44:47 kind of get the vision. It's more of a management, yes,

44:50 yes. Here, I'll just say it.

44:53 Resident Evil. There we go.

44:55 Probably you. You could out there.

44:57 That's what I'm waiting for. There's.

45:01 You could probably do something with it like.

45:03 Like if you were to go with like the action settings, you could

45:06 probably do like a Co-op game with that, yes.

45:12 Like I, I feel like you like going like let's say they like

45:19 maybe base it on like the second game or something that you know,

45:22 you're going through the RPD and all that shit and you know, oh,

45:26 they're zombies. OK, well then I don't know if

45:29 you use dice as like how much damage you would do.

45:32 Or. Some shit like that, like it

45:35 have to be fleshed out a lot or. Like an RPG of it too.

45:39 That would work well. That would be a good setting for

45:41 it. Cool.

45:42 So a game that would be really fun as a board game then?

45:45 This is topical Kirby Air Raider.

45:49 That would actually be kind of cool.

45:50 You don't have to do. Like the mini games afterwards,

45:52 Yeah, yeah, you don't have to exactly incorporate that.

45:55 Maybe some of them can, but where?

45:56 Where you can. Have a different, you can have a

45:58 different air ride, you can have different stats for it, right?

46:01 Yeah, like maybe boxes. Spawn on specific areas and you

46:05 can take your turns or whatever, yeah, maybe you can hit a person

46:08 or something, yeah, maybe you can get some things off them,

46:11 yeah. That that, that would probably

46:13 be good. But you make the characters

46:16 remote controlled. Hey, I mean this is crazy.

46:22 I. I've seen this more as like a

46:23 card game honestly. Well, I mean.

46:26 I see. I just see it more as like a a

46:28 board game like you, you have you have the map, you have your

46:31 pieces more characters spawn here.

46:33 Here's where the boxes spawn. Here, items spawn, whatever, and

46:38 you have like, tokens for each, I think, the health, whatever.

46:41 And at the end of the game, you add up all the tokens that you

46:44 got and whoever has the most wins.

46:46 Yeah. Yeah, and.

46:47 You could also, if you did like the the the top ride, you know

46:54 when it's like the you see the entire map I.

46:56 I When I think of you, I you're right.

47:00 I think act. Like behind the character type

47:03 of shit. I just.

47:04 I just think city trial, city trial.

47:07 Yeah, I forget top. Right exists, but that would be

47:10 cool as like the. Kind of like a remote control.

47:13 Thing, yeah, you know. It's just also like, how would

47:16 you do the the like copy abilities?

47:21 How the hell would you? You know that's.

47:23 Fair. Do that.

47:24 Yeah, you know, I've got. An interesting one, if I can

47:29 interject. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

47:31 A simplified version of Stellaris.

47:34 Yeah, I mean, it's good. Where you where it just dumbs it

47:38 down to you have you have your fleets and it's just conquest

47:43 you have to. It's kind of like a mix of Catan

47:47 meets Galactic conquest from the old Battlefront Battlefront

47:53 games where you had to go capture territory, manage your

47:57 fleets, and expand your fleets. But you can negotiate or attack

48:03 other players until you're controlling the entire Galaxy,

48:08 and then different locations give you different bonuses.

48:11 Like say this planet gives you a bonus to alloy production.

48:15 This one gives you bonus to food.

48:20 I I feel like that could be pretty good.

48:26 I like a good old strategy game. Yeah, I mean.

48:28 That that that could definitely work.

48:30 Yeah. You got to know the one, Ethan.

48:35 Not really. Well, isn't that a shame?

48:38 It. Very much so is.

48:47 You got any board games you'd like to see get digitized?

48:52 I was going to say not board games, but I want to say

48:55 Roboquest, but I just don't think that's fucking feasible

48:58 that. That's.

49:00 Probably not feasible. The arena shooter probably

49:03 wanted no God. No, I mean I want to, I would

49:06 like to say sorry as. AI think I think Hasbro's pretty

49:11 good about making digital versions of its games yeah, I

49:14 just. I've.

49:15 Played. It that there is a oh, is there

49:17 a digital? There it is.

49:18 I'm sorry. Oh, OK, I didn't know that it.

49:20 It's old. I was playing on my phone a lot

49:24 A. Lot of a lot of the Hasbro games

49:26 are old. I was going to.

49:27 Say it's probably one of those disk games, yeah, I mean like a

49:30 modernized version it. And it was a lot of fun.

49:33 Oh, I bet it was good it. Was very good.

49:38 Fuck I don't know what about Wi-Fi?

49:41 Wanted board game to be digitized.

49:48 Well, like, like I, I think the big one for you was Haunted

49:51 House on the Hill, just because of how complex that game is.

49:54 I mean another. One if, if.

49:55 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, go ahead.

49:56 I. Would say I'm not sure if I want

49:58 this or if it would be cool. I'm not sure.

50:01 But like you said, dice thrown, yeah, that is a pretty cool game

50:07 to play on a table. But I feel like it just it it's

50:10 it's at home on a table more than a video game.

50:13 Yeah. Although I I can really see it

50:16 because there's a lot of for for me specifically about once a

50:22 month I've been going over to my brother in law's with my brother

50:25 and his his stepfather and we've been doing Marvel dice Throme,

50:32 but they have a Pve element to it.

50:37 Or you have missions. You have to complete, yeah.

50:39 I've been wanting to get that, yeah.

50:41 It's interesting. There's a lot of setup and a

50:44 little bit of nuance that you have to kind of understand to

50:47 get into it. But I I definitely think Dice

50:50 Throne would lend itself really well to being digitized because

50:55 there's status effects that you're throwing around that you

50:57 need to keep track of, as well as the different upkeep phases

51:01 that you have to keep track of. I feel like dice throwing both,

51:04 both PvP and Pve would really just benefit from just the base

51:10 game getting digitized. A rule for rule that would be

51:14 really good. The only thing?

51:15 That sucks about it and this is in the rules.

51:17 It's just we don't play it this way is when you go to attack

51:21 your roll to see what happens. It's like on a six you get to

51:25 pick who you attack. On a five, you attack right.

51:30 On a four you attack left. Yeah, 32.

51:32 I don't remember. 1 Your opponents pick who you attack.

51:35 Yeah, you. What the fuck are we?

51:36 You could probably. Incorporate a house rules or or

51:40 or like something Debbie, like, oh, you select this and then you

51:44 could just target freely Yeah, cuz that's.

51:46 What we do, cuz it's some more fun that way.

51:47 Like fuck rolling to attack. Yeah, he's in the lead.

51:50 Get him. But yeah, no, no, I, I, I can

51:54 genuinely see this being made into a video game and it's, it'd

51:58 be really well received. I guess I, I just don't think I

52:03 can imagine. I feel like it's just it to me.

52:05 It's at home on a table, but I respect it.

52:08 Yeah, yeah. Mouse trap the okey.

52:18 That would not last very long, no.

52:20 That would. Lose this.

52:20 Appeal quick because the the whole point of mouse trap is to

52:23 watch the mouse trap work. Yep.

52:26 Dude, that is such a serotonin just fucking thing, man.

52:30 Yeah, I could watch it again and again and again.

52:36 You want to. Know that reminds me of what the

52:39 old Cartoon Network Flash game where you're playing is.

52:42 Tom trying to build a mouse trap for Jerry and you can go super

52:48 fucking convoluted. Yeah, this is crazy.

52:51 I miss those fucking games, man. I do too.

52:55 The game. Where you have like pieces on

52:58 the side and the ball just rolls off and you try to get into the

53:01 cup. Yeah, I can't.

53:04 Remember it? You're talking about the game

53:06 from school, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, until you.

53:09 Realize you can just pick up the ball and put it in the hole,

53:11 yeah. Yeah, we're old, but what's fun?

53:13 With that, yeah. Like a.

53:17 Hockey stake in like 2-2 triangles or whatever yeah pull.

53:21 Oh my God, a hammer or something?

53:23 God trying to get the. Ball to bounce off of something

53:26 yeah, I miss those days, those old Flash games, man, I.

53:33 Remember in the like the computer lab or whatever, or

53:37 like, you know, you've done your work.

53:40 I played a lot of Sonic Advanced Flash.

53:45 You know, there was a lot of talk about Oregon Trail back

53:48 then, and I've only ever played it once, and this was for a

53:51 school grade. Yeah, I generally don't see old

53:54 people fail Oregon Trail because every single time I've heard it

53:58 like, Oh yeah, like, they have dysentery, but then nothing ever

54:00 happens. They always make it to Oregon

54:02 Trail. I made an Oregon Trail.

54:04 Sorry, Oregon I. Want to say that's more of like

54:07 the, by the time we got into school, you're past the really

54:11 old jinky digital early phase and you're getting into the more

54:16 refined digital age as they're trying to teach us all how to

54:20 use computers at the time. But I, I, I think, I think if

54:26 I'm correct, I think the older versions of the game were a lot

54:29 more brutal probably. Yeah, God, I remember.

54:34 This is unrelated, but I remember in what was it at our

54:39 elementary school, you know how they had like the the computer

54:41 set up where people are on the inside and people are on the

54:43 outside? Yeah.

54:44 So the the one teacher maybe, well, maybe it wasn't one.

54:49 Maybe it was just, oh, there was there was a lady there that was

54:52 like, all right, here's a piece of paper, here's the website.

54:55 Type in www.imlike. No, I'm just going to type in

54:58 the fucking website. Forgot the HTML and everything.

55:00 Yeah, to type in the website, I mean.

55:02 You didn't need to, but they didn't know.

55:04 No, they. Didn't I'm just like?

55:07 It takes you to the. Same place.

55:08 Come on. It's really funny.

55:11 I know we're getting off topic, but I think we kind of hit the

55:14 well on that on the the board games idea.

55:16 I think so. Yeah, but it's.

55:18 Fine, I I looking back at learning computers in school, I

55:25 feel like we all do a lot more than the teachers understood

55:29 themselves. Oh yeah.

55:30 Oh yeah. Well, because.

55:31 I quickly realized that you don't have to type in www.html

55:36 the goo colons forward slash forward slash like whatever.

55:40 Yeah, you didn't. Have to do.

55:41 That here's the thing. Back back when computers were

55:44 new to them, you had to because there wasn't any auto filling,

55:48 right? But that's what they knew.

55:51 By the time we started, we were in like Windows 7, Windows 8

55:55 era. And a lot, a lot of web browsers

55:58 were smart enough to be like, oh, you're pretty much going to

56:00 do http://www.say. Maybe not Windows 7, definitely

56:07 not eight. Yeah, but this is like in

56:09 elementary school. Yeah.

56:10 Even if there was no auto fill it was just I typed in the

56:13 website without the HTTPS or the www.and like it would just take

56:18 me to the website anyway. Yeah, or.

56:20 Or if you went to Google, Google was still a decent search engine

56:23 at the time, so we just. Bring.

56:25 Up the site for you and be like OK, cool, just.

56:27 Just a funny memory I had of like watch this scratch fingers

56:32 like like a hacker man trying to get into it.

56:33 Do you remember? All the Mavis Beacon, What was

56:36 that? That was the typing program to

56:39 teach us all how to type well. I hated that because at the time

56:43 in in high school, I did the oh, you.

56:46 Did the fingertip, You did the. Index fingertip I did.

56:49 I did that horribly and I I still don't even follow the home

56:53 rule, home row, these I don't, I don't do that.

56:56 I don't think a lot. Of people do it, it they it just

57:00 type the way you type, yeah. I mean, I think.

57:02 It's cool that you can be like looking away and be like what

57:04 the fuck are you talking about while you're just typing an

57:06 e-mail or whatever. I I want to say that I figured

57:09 out how to do that, but that was out of necessity of working or,

57:14 or doing school work in, in computer science, yeah.

57:18 Fair enough, because. After some point it's like I I

57:22 can either learn how to do this better and save myself time, or

57:28 keep just trying to look at it and and still feeling miserably

57:32 and wasting a lot more time. I've tried.

57:35 I can't. I can't do it.

57:37 Oh. I can I can do it to ATI is

57:39 scary. I've tried.

57:40 It I'm like, you know, maybe I should try this.

57:42 I'm like, WHY space? I mean, Nope, this is just.

57:50 It, it is a skill that I'm happy that I learned because I use it

57:54 so much with work, especially with typing out like test

57:57 documentation or working, working on just like reports and

58:03 stuff. It seems to be so much time to

58:05 just look at the screen, making sure everything I'm typing is

58:09 right. And then if I need to back

58:11 space, back space, space space, just my mind is just on the

58:16 words themselves instead of the keyboard because it's muscle

58:19 memory at this point when I used to.

58:21 Work in an office? I asked people this.

58:22 Have you ever tried thinking about changing to a different

58:26 layout? Cupid layout.

58:29 So you're talking about like going to ergonomic or something?

58:32 Yeah, 'cause there's there's QWERTY, but then there's also, I

58:35 don't remember any names, but there's another kind of popular

58:39 10 you're talking. About different like, like style

58:41 entirely, yeah. Where instead of QWERTY it's

58:45 like US I/O J or I don't, I just wouldn't.

58:48 Throw me up. Maybe, but the the problem is

58:53 that I'm so used to QWERTY. Well, yeah.

58:55 That's how it would. Throw me off 'cause.

58:57 That's the that's the one that was first introduced.

58:59 But people say that it's not the most quote UN quote efficient

59:04 format for a keyboard I I. I don't know how.

59:12 The problem? Is is that QWERTY is standard?

59:14 Yes, Yeah. And everybody knows QWERTY.

59:18 And you can. Only be so efficient.

59:20 Yeah, and. Honestly I I I could just love a

59:23 less of a shit but I'm like you know what if I did try it

59:25 differently just to say I did. What if I like it more?

59:30 What do you? I don't know.

59:31 I never have. I could see.

59:32 The moment you trying it, you're gonna go right back.

59:35 Yeah, I could see it. I.

59:37 Feel like it depends on the mood because I had I tend to know

59:41 that I have a build up to something and I'm like fuck it

59:43 at this point let's just try it. Yeah, that's what I did with

59:45 crochet. I'm like, do I?

59:47 Do I? Let me just jump into it.

59:48 I think I. Do, yeah, I kind of wanna do

59:52 crochet. I really want it.

59:55 Let's do crochet. Yeah, I have that build up to

59:57 it. Yeah, yeah.

59:58 I admire. It And that's fair.

1:00:00 But I, I think it just on an individual basis, sure, go ahead

1:00:04 and give it a try, see if you like it.

1:00:07 But as like a societal thing, no, I, I, I can't see it because

1:00:11 it, it, it's standard. It's like trying to here's a

1:00:16 good, here's a good reference point.

1:00:17 It's trying to convince more general groups of people to

1:00:21 switch over off of micro off of Windows onto a different

1:00:25 operating system I think. What has to happen if we were to

1:00:27 change that is, and not everybody.

1:00:30 It's just the people that are learning.

1:00:33 The kids. Yeah.

1:00:34 The kids that are learning it, yeah.

1:00:36 But then, but then you come to the problem of, yeah, this

1:00:39 generation of kids growing up, Yeah, with the new system, but

1:00:44 everybody still that's like 40 years older than them still is

1:00:48 still using QWERTY, right. So now companies have to use two

1:00:53 different keyboard standards and it just becomes a mess.

1:00:57 Yeah, like it's standards are not easy to change.

1:01:00 No, not. At all and.

1:01:01 It's one of those things where it's not broken, don't fix it.

1:01:05 Yeah, of. Course, And, you know, people

1:01:07 can easily reach 130, which is like the benchmark, yeah.

1:01:11 But I mean, yeah, if you wanted to try like a different layout,

1:01:13 fuck yeah, go for it. Like what?

1:01:15 You know, don't let anybody on a personal.

1:01:17 Level go go him, go free with it.

1:01:19 Fuck yeah. But.

1:01:21 As a measure of changing society, Ain't no way it's

1:01:24 fucking happening. I'm sorry I.

1:01:26 I I do, trust me, I've like all of that thought forever, but,

1:01:29 you know, just. Why not?

1:01:30 What if I did? Try another keyboard layout,

1:01:32 yeah. There's nothing wrong with that.

1:01:37 Well, we are at time. Oh wow.

1:01:40 Yeah, keyboard discussion for 20 minutes all cuz of one stupid

1:01:44 memory. Riveting when I was in

1:01:46 elementary school. I saw that overload light.

1:01:51 Jesus fucking Christ. Stop it.

1:01:55 Oh, hello. All right, go ahead and do it

1:01:57 again. There it is.

1:02:01 You'll you'll experience that later and record in a Yeah, I'm

1:02:04 gonna. Fucking forget and I'm gonna be

1:02:06 like, I had my fucking headphones on and fucking look

1:02:08 at it something I'm like, you know, my Max will be here on my

1:02:10 left. Look at my fucking TV reverting.

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1:02:37 Isn't that right, bud? Yeah, yeah, that was the.

1:02:42 Perfect time for you to say hello.

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