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Did you know he was doing? That.
No, unless. Unless you can telepathically
fucking talk to each other. I don't fucking.
Know you can't. It's called a text message.
Hey, the same damn. Ass fuck.
Well, what have we been up to this week?
I've been, I've been attempting to get through my book, but it's
been a hard read, dude. Not the book itself.
It's just like life. It's just been like, and so I
feel like when I go to read my book, yeah, when I go to not in
that way. Shut up under your minds.
I wasn't even sleeping that way, but I I, I, I was going with
like the caveman route when I unga bunga.
A fire appears before me. What?
The fuck was that face? Jesus fucking Christ, no man,
the fire. Fire, Firebird.
Fire. Fire.
Fire, Firebird Fire. Firebird.
It's freaking out my dog. Shadow please.
Stop that bit. Yeah, before Shadow decides to
gnaw on you. He's already trying.
Right now he's like, oh, I want to play.
I'd like this game, Danny, I'm. Going to get you.
I like, I like sounds that make me excited and want to play with
my rope. Is my like daddy?
My my Gumby. Gummy gummy.
That and his bone that has so many sharp edges that he Shanks
your ass. I hate to say it, but we've
stopped giving him Gumby. Oh, what?
Oh, it it got it got to the point where he we got him a
brand new one within the first hour.
He already had it torn open and was pulling all the stuffing
out. It's sad.
He absolutely loves his Gumbies, but we we don't want him to get
sick. It's it's just the sad part of
it. What's the total Gumby kill
count I need to know? It's like 3 or 4.
Wow, that's more than I thought. Yeah, I knew it was at least 2.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's, it's like 3 or 4 now.
Yes, buddy. Hi.
Hi. Daddy's being a moron on the
Internet. It's OK, pick up in the mic.
Yeah, very clearly. Yeah, he's just being an idiot
on the Internet, both me and he. Like do I laugh at that or not?
I was going to because I'm like, we heard this shit.
He didn't mute, so it's on him. Oh no, not me talking.
I knew I was still on the bike. I was talking about if you heard
Shadow's breathing. No, no, he didn't.
No. OK, OK.
In. The episode, I would have ended
it right there. That would have.
Been the episode? No, not not in the.
Beginning. We're past that.
We're past that. Anyways I.
Cannot believe the time has flown so fast.
We are rapidly approaching the one year anniversary of the
channel. Which is June 9th.
That is when we first published our our first episode, which was
what games mean to us. I believe that's what that was.
Yeah. Yeah, I think that's the first
one. We've all three of us have
learned a lot over this past year with the podcast and.
Yes, we have. Me, me personally, I, I
basically threw myself in the fire and decided to, well, kind
of had to learn how to edit audio.
That was something I never really did.
I'm more of a video editor, not a audio, but having both of
those skills now is actually great.
It's never too late to learn. No, like seriously, like if
there's something you really want to do.
Just start it off. Just just get you just get
yourself into it. Yeah, just start somewhere.
Sit down, learn, and don't let anybody tell you that you can't
do it because. That's what I did with crochet.
Yeah, it's, I didn't think I was going to be good enough to edit
these episodes. And still, you know, being a
year now that I've been doing that, that's still a lot of
learning. And there's so much that's
involved with just editing audio that I, I, I've never, I've
never known. And like editing a podcast is
really not that difficult. That's, you know, when you start
getting into like actually producing music, having to
gadget, from my understanding, editing all of the instruments
to, you know, God, not even that like just starting off
songwriting, trying to get the music together.
Like what is it going to sound like?
Like there's there's just so much that goes into just audio
in general and it's overwhelming, but it is
something that if you think you're you think that you can do
it, do it. Don't put yourself down just.
Just keep going. Just I sat down, I bought Logic
Pro on the Mac and said, fuck it, you know, I want to do a
podcast. I'm going to need to know how to
edit shit. That's I just started and it's
honestly been a great opportunity.
I mean, I've been besides the podcast, I've been experimenting
with just different, different things, different techniques
through like I have a couple projects I've thrown together.
That's just, you know, you could call like music and whatever.
It's not anything that's special.
It's a bunch of like different things that Logic Pro has that I
could just throw together. That's just, you know, just
something I've been doing kind of trying to get better at this
'cause that actually helps with understanding what the different
plug insurance do and all that. It it, it's a lot it, it really
is. But like, you won't learn all of
it in a lifetime. But you don't need to know
everything or even a lot to produce good audio.
It's it's just something you got to invest your time in.
And anybody who's ever thought about doing a podcast that
listens to this, just go do it. It'll I.
Mean. Terrifying at first, but.
We started it in my game room and it's still to this day, it
hasn't changed in a year. Well, OK, aside from the
occasional online, which is what you're doing now.
Recording, yes. Yeah.
The the next two episodes will be this way.
But we just did it in my game room, and it's barely enough to
seat four people in chairs with how big that room is.
And we were able to do it. We started off with a mishmash
of Mike's, like Brandon had his Mike.
Mark had her hit another one of Brandon.
Mike. That's right.
It was a big Yeti, right? What?
What was it? It was a Yeti, Mike, was it?
So it was, well, it was going to be a Yeti Mike, but it's then
turned to, well, you know what, let's use like the mic you have,
Ethan. Yeah, 'cause I have, I have a
$70 mic that it just, it was part of $100 set.
So that was pretty cool when I bought it for streaming back
when I did that. Not that, that one anywhere, but
yeah, no, it's, it's still a pretty good mic.
And it had actually had the what?
The XLR port in the back. Yeah, the XLR port in the back.
And Brandon was like, you know what, like the first time I
recorded Brandon was like, I really like your mic.
Let's get more of those. And I just, I bought it for
streaming. I I saw the XLR port in the back
going, oh, that's weird, huh, Never seen that before.
Whatever. And it just so happened to have
what we needed. Yeah, yeah, the the, the way
that this podcast, what we do, like Ethan said, we're in the
game room. He has and soundproofed a little
bit, but definitely we can do more in there.
But it for right now it's it's honestly it's worked.
Really. Yeah, No, it, it's, it's worked
for now. I mean, I depending on how this
goes in the future where we we're no time travelers or
premonition people, but depending on those goes, we
might have something better later on the line.
But I'm perfectly content doing this in my own house.
Yeah. And I'm, I'm not talking about
them in my own house. I'm just talking about I'm, I'm
comfortable doing this in my own house, whether it's online,
whether it's they're here, whether in like in a
metaphorical sense at Mark and Emma's house, what we did on, I
think, Thanksgiving. Yes, yeah, that.
Was the thanks. That was the Thanksgiving
episode. That's what I thought, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, no, the for people who
might be curious, the way we do this is I have a basically it's
a Tascam recorder that is a, it's basically called a portable
studio. You can literally make music on
this thing from start to finish. It's literally a portable
studio. Something me and Mark vowed
never to perceive. Yep, then they still don't to
this day. Nope, but we use that with the
three microphones and XLR cables recording on separate tracks.
Recording on separate tracks is good to do if you're able to for
editing everybody's voice separately.
It's just nice 'cause you have more freedom and doing what you
want. But if you're doing recording
like us with three people in the same room, the microphones we
currently use are good for having multiple people in a room
because these microphones are made in such a way and the way
the diaphragm's made is it only picks up sound in front of it.
Now that being said, depending on what device you use to record
said voices, you're probably going to want to have some type
of noise gate on or like just something to block out in case
the microphones pick up somebody else 'cause that can happen if
sound. Off.
The walls. High voice.
Oh God, he's gonna start skipping any.
But yeah, it's, it's a process, but honestly, it's it, it's a
lot of fun. And it's honestly been nice to
be kind of creative again, 'cause I used to do some stuff
with my buddy Devon. We did some like just stupid
fucking puppet videos or whatever.
It's like called Todd and friends.
Some dumb like Todd is always angry.
He's always beating up his friends because he's bad and he
goes in a bunch of stupid adventure.
Like it it. It's just one of those things
where something clicked with me and and Devon and we're like, we
know what we're going to do this, which we do have an
episode that is not released that we did record.
I did edit. The guys have seen it.
When he goes, Todd goes to the dentist.
That was funny. That was a fun video.
That's right. My buddy Devon was in town and
you know, we haven't seen each other and because he moved out
of our state and he just showed up at my house, man, right after
I got done with the shower. He's like, hey, you come outside
in the front, what the fuck? And then here's his ass.
I'm like mother fucker, We're like, he was like that scene
with Arnold and that one guy, you son of a bitch, and they
fucking hold hands and shit. If you know, you know.
And I just kind of got an idea like he was in town for a couple
days for his mom and I'm like, you know what?
And I asked my if you want to, I know you don't have a camera.
I've got an old iPhone camera works good my way.
Just record an episode for the hell of it.
If he was up to it and we did, and this is where I was able to
test myself with, again, audio, The difference between the last
video we did to this one is like a night and day thing.
Just even just like audio and video.
This, the skills definitely have gotten a lot better.
They've improved, but like I said, unfortunately with my
buddy having to move to a different state, moving, you
know, he, we couldn't really do this anymore.
So it kind of just got put a kind of the back burner.
It's not gone forever. It's it's something that I think
is just going to be just kind of there.
And if the time happens again like it did, I mean, you know,
I, I didn't think we were going to do that.
And maybe one of these days we'll have Devon on the podcast.
I've told him about it. I don't know if he listens or
not, but if you are listening, Devon, we'll have to have you
on. That'd be fun, even if it's
Discord. I mean, I wouldn't.
Mind that. I actually got, you know, this
is this should be like, you know, I'll talk about after.
But what I do want to talk about is the beginnings of this
podcast, like the from the very concept is me, Brandon, Mark and
check, I'm not sure if anyone else was there, but we were all
playing Lethal Company. And I'm like, you know, we
should start a podcast. And Brandon was just like
sitting there in awe, just like why?
Eyes wide open, dilated to the Max and like everything like,
holy shit, we could do that. We could just start, we could
just start a podcast. You're not wrong.
Like I remember after the session of Lethal Company,
you're like, I want to do this now.
I want to fucking do this. And then a while later, because
I believe we had Mark's wedding that he was super stressed
about, which fair at the time. And so we did it.
After that we did our episode 0, which we were.
We were so stiff. Oh dude it was bad like.
Go back, go back to episode 1 and we were still stiffer than
that. By episode 3 we were OK, I would
say maybe 4 and it's only gotten better from there.
But still, though, it's like we were, oh, it was bad it.
Was robotic. I still remember when we
recorded the first episode, you know?
And I remember it being hard as fuck to hit that record button.
Really. That was super hard.
I was anxious as a motherfucker. I was so terrified going into
that. I was more so like, I guess
'cause I've heard my own voice from listen to man's dreams,
whatever. Like I guess I'm just used to
that. I'm not sure how you guys were,
but I'm just like, I'm ready to do this.
And you guys were just like, OK, now I will talk.
Having that pause between everybody talking.
There was no overlapping, there was just.
No feedback, no nothing. Just like awkward silence a
little bit here and there. Not even here and there.
It was like it was after every, not like it was after every
sentence. It was every sentence.
Yes, like anybody like I know that it on like Spotify.
I seen like a a good amount of people have watched the first
episode and you are a trooper. I'll be honest, it was it it it
definitely was terrible yeah, I hated hearing my own voice.
I fuck. I still kind of I'm I'm used to
it now, but I still don't like my voice.
I think my voice sucks. I do, but you know, I'm sure
other people tell me otherwise, but.
Yeah, I mean. I, I was terrified of, I, I, I
was feeling in some way just terrified to get my voice out
there, get my personality out there.
Just wondering how is our dynamic going to I guess sort of
reach out to other people outside of the our friend group,
our close knit group of friends? Well, I'm kind of the same way
in you with you, Brandon, is that I?
There's times where I don't like hearing my voice or it sounds
like there's a frog in my throat or something.
But at this point, I'm just whatever, it's my voice.
I don't think you can do to really change it.
It's yeah. There's nothing I got to do to
change it. But like, that's not the point.
It's just it's me talking and that's how other people hear me.
Like why? Why should I?
Why should I care? That's how they're going to hear
me. Nothing I can do to change about
that. No amount of vocal training can
realistically change my voice in the in the greater in the grand
scheme of things. Yeah.
And I like hearing myself laugh. I still listen to these episodes
back and whenever I do something stupid that I found funny, I I
laugh. Like in one of the one of the
episodes you said I think it was octopus octopi and I said
octoppeople or something. And that was a reference to
Phineas and Ferb. And when I first listened to the
episode back, I said it on the same exact beat as I said it in
the recording. And I laughed, I hollered, I
laughed so hard, 'cause I hit the same exact beat.
Jesus, the timing I. Know.
God I. Love hearing myself laugh.
You do have a very characteristic laugh to you,
I'll give you that. Yeah.
Yeah. You have a laugh that's just not
repeatable by anybody, and it's awesome.
No, that's that's why I died from that one lethal company
clip with a fucking mark getting shot by the God damn Nutcracker
in the other room. I tried finding that on the on,
on your, what is it, TikTok? Yeah, I couldn't find it on
TikTok. Did you even post it there?
It should be there. I couldn't find it.
No, because that was. That was a one.
I burned myself out from putting that shit online.
Jesus Christ, it was everyday. Yeah, understandable.
I I know I have that recording somewhere 'cause.
I would love to hear that back. Dude, that's you.
You like it was your normal laugh, but wheezing it was like
it was stupid but it was funny. Did you hear Mark in all the
room? And then the shotgun, like what
the fuck? Yeah.
Did you hear the, did you hear like the the clown horn like hit
the floor? You heard something at the
floor. It was just.
It was the. Flash off the wall.
That's what did it in. That's.
What did it for me too? Like Jesus?
Christ, or can I say I'm a work of?
Or like you or or you said the the time where you had the ghost
girl, we didn't believe you and you just ran right into the
ghost girl, killing yourself in lethal company.
And the fact that we both stopped, both turned at you and
then burst out laughing all at the same time.
All of this happened obviously on the same time, over the
course of a singular second. It was.
Beautiful. It really fucking was.
It was so good. It it you just couldn't you you
just couldn't make that shit up, man.
That that was just comedically timed.
Yeah. Did I just see this little girl?
And I'm like, you know, I'm going to get back at these
motherfuckers. Here we go.
That was wonderful. That, that, that was oh.
No, you're just pulling your strings.
Everybody knows. Go state read it just.
What the fuck? Yeah, Oh my God.
Like that's kind of something that came out of it with like in
addition to our podcast was the recordings of Lethal Company
'cause that kind of happened around the same time a little
before, obviously that was. Yeah, that was sort of the
precursor to everything. Yeah, 'cause we were playing
lethal company. Excuse me here.
We go. Probably maybe three or four
days a week, if I had to guess. Yeah, it.
Was it was a lot of. Weeks.
It was a lot, yeah. And I'm, I'm still down for it.
I still love it. Oh, same.
I I really enjoyed the last session after putting that new
brutal mod back in me. Too, I feel like brutal mod that
brutal mod is a bit much. It is, yeah.
Yeah, no, maybe not every time. No, 'cause we're not.
Like we're not really getting anywhere.
Yeah, with it, you know, I think we'll.
Play around with more brutal mods, but I I think that
definitely was the secret sauce kind of missing was just it's a
little bit too easy right now. Yeah, the other brutal mod is
like it would. It would be something cryptic
like the shadows are looking. Or some some shit.
Yeah, yeah. And like, Oh yeah, free landmine
day and there would just be landmines outside.
What are we doing where, God forbid, turrets outside?
Oh my. Christ that.
Sucked, but anyway. Dogs inside the building or the
bird inside the building? Dude, that one moon where where
the coil heads can come outside the dangerous ass moon.
Oh. Man sucked.
I Oh God, that. Yeah.
Yeah. I forget what, but I I remember
when you're saying something to me so like you're talking shit
and I'm like OK, and I turned my head and the coil heads killed
you like that and I heard that shit.
I don't know what you're talking about though.
I'll have to bring that clip up that that was a while ago.
But so many good clips from the. But just, oh, this podcast just
kind of came out of nothing. Like like I said at the
beginning, Brandon was like I said, I set a side comment.
I like we could do a podcast. Maybe not those exact words.
It was something. Brandon the lines of Oh yeah,
how fun would it be if we did a podcast and.
Brandon could not just not drop the idea.
No, I couldn't. And for for a week, you were a
couple times you said, I want to try this, I want to try this.
And we did. Yep.
We eventually got there. And then episode 0 happened a
couple like probably six months later, maybe not that, but at
least three months later, episode 1 finally came out.
Oh fuck yeah. Oh my, I'm, I'm realizing the
timeline on this. Yeah, 'cause though we had the
wedding, yeah. And then it was like early
spring after everything settled back down, we finally get
together. We're like, all right, we're
going to do the the trial on Discord.
Yep. Shit, and we were even talking
like, doesn't matter how many episodes we do, as long as we
get comfortable with it. We did one episode like months
before the first episode came out.
And then we recorded the second episode on the first, you know,
episode 0, episode one for the podcast.
And we were just let's do it. Let's put it out there.
Just yeah, just bite the bullet. Let's go.
I figured that we would have gone like 3-4 sessions before we
actually put our first one out. Yeah, yeah.
But oh, we were just get out. Let's do it right here, right
now. Honestly only time like the now.
Yeah. No, there's the time.
Yeah, yeah. God that was horrifying putting
that out for the first time like.
Dude, I'm in bed like, as you like.
I didn't, I didn't think anything of it, 'cause all I do,
all I do is bring a space to the table.
I mean, obviously, obviously again, mine is the online stuff,
but it's still a pretty big thing.
But Brandon, you, you learned so much for this podcast and I
congratulate you for all of that.
And you still learn, and you still ask.
More. As with our YouTube as well, now
that we're doing YouTube, and OK, before I forget, this is
advice I want to bring to anybody who's listening that
wants to try their own podcast. Don't expect immediate results.
It's just like working out. You got to do your reps.
I mean, if, if we want to kind of discuss statistics, I mean,
for the longest time we've had like up to what is it like a
half dozen people on every episode?
Yeah, sort of like our best for the longest time.
Especially one of them being me for a fact.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we. It would be.
Yeah, about a half dozen of people.
Yeah. And.
Now we're up to what? Like what is it like 20th
episode? It's like, yeah, like 19 or 20.
We, we had a actually a pretty big influx of views come in.
And we're probably what happened with that is with the podcast
being on so many different sites that it could have for some
reason got somewhere on one of those sites that you can't
really tell what the analytics are because there are sites like
that, like iHeartRadio, for instance, that does not have any
statistics. So I I can't look at it.
But we're at we're we're finally seeing some growth.
Yeah, and. Even even if it's not a lot,
it's just. To us, it's a lot.
Yeah. Even with just one person
listening that that that's like, you know, we didn't start this
podcast to be successful. This was just something that we
thought, hey, this would be fun to do.
And it still is to this day. If it happens, it happens.
And if we ever decide that we're not having fun, why should we
continue if that's what we have agreed at the start and that's
how we're going to go about it, as if we're if as long as we're
having fun, we're going to keep going.
Yeah. I'm still having a great time.
Oh. Yeah, Oh yeah.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
If point proven. You want to know who else is Oh
Yang and if. If the day comes that something
happens with this podcast and it gets out there, hey, I mean, I,
I hope that people use it for inspiration to do their own
stuff, 'cause we're just three normal guys, man.
That's the same. This it it.
It's not. Man, who you talking normal?
We three idiots, we 3. Oh, we can't say that word.
No, we can't. There's no what?
Word. Were you thinking I'm coming
too, buddy? Not, not like that, OK.
We're just, we're just again, just three dudes that just
decided, hey, we're going to try this and.
Sounds like fun. It was, yeah, that.
There's It's amazing to think, to think that people are valuing
what we're doing enough to take time out of their days to just
listen and. Even if it's for a car ride.
Yeah, yeah, even even if it's just it's they could.
Be listening to the music or or like the radio, some other
podcasts, maybe a audio book something.
And that, that is pretty cool that they listen to us like they
choose to listen to us. Yeah, that they actively are
like, OK, I'll just listen in from time to time at least.
Just yeah. Even if it is noncommittal, just
the fact that people are taking time out of the day to at least
put a little bit of us into their life is honestly amazing.
I I honestly never thought we'd get like to this.
Yeah, to the caliper that we're at now in this, in this amount
of a time frame, I thought I was going to be like, oh, we'll just
have really static numbers for like a year or two or something.
Yeah, that's what I thought too. We're going to go like nobody
for a long time. And that's kind of how it was
for streaming. And I've tried that.
I don't know, for three years I didn't.
I wanted to stream and entertain people for try to build a
community, even just a Humble 5 regulars of stream.
That's was kind of my thing I was going for.
I don't care how many followers I get.
Followers doesn't matter if you don't get people watching.
That was my philosophy. And even if it wasn't the same 5
people every stream, like didn't have to be the number 5, but you
know, good just a couple people that never happened.
But you know, now that I'm we're now that we're doing podcasting,
it's kind of different kind of the same thing.
I would still love to see some when we ask questions at the end
of the episodes. I would love to see some form of
interaction between which by the way, didn't you say that you has
if you wanted to bring it up this in in this episode or
outside of the did you say that you had something for us?
So the YouTube we had someone comment.
Perfect time to bring it up. Yeah, honestly, it it is.
Let's see. So it was our light year
Frontier Part 5. Oh, OK, that's called.
Part five. Wow.
So part skip. So yeah, they're talking about,
they're talking about, I guess this the seed modular thing.
Yeah. Kind of surprise how many seeds
you can have in it that it doesn't just fucking explode.
Like just just a a random thing? Yeah, no, yeah, yeah.
Which was, which was nice. I mean it, it it's nice to see
that you know, that the the work that we do just entertain
somebody for half an hour. Yeah, no, seriously.
Like that that's. It's the fact that it's doing
something for somebody is it is a is an amazing feeling.
Yeah. And I'm like, not gonna lie, we
have, you know, we've talked about like, oh, if we, if we do
grow, but this is a huge if again, that we do this for fun
first and foremost, no matter what pillar, pillar, physical
pillar, fun, everything else, all the other pillars can knock
down whatever. But like we can, we can do a
Patreon, we can do YouTube. We discussed that, which now we
are doing or even maybe a subreddit to talk about
whatever. I don't know what we would do,
you know, just like just a rough idea, but you know, just to get
the community involved, just a little different ways to do that
if we ever got like that. If we ever got to that point.
Which I, I still think would be a good idea, but, you know,
we're, we're just three dudes, three dudes and you guys listen
to us. Be a bunch of babbling buffoons
for an hour for. Babu Babu.
Yeah, we don't. Get paid unless bless you.
Dude. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, all you.
Know was fun the the Mad libs the Part 2 mad libs whoa whoa
whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa it's like God damn, he's stuck
someone smack up 'cause she was. Funny.
Very good. Mark is a comedic fucking
genius. He can't be here.
I I often tell you guys I will. Well.
String a better tuning. Ideas.
Or or or my favorite. Oh.
God. Didn't we?
Look at each other and just start laughing 10 minutes into
the yeah. Not we were.
Trying to keep it together, me and Brandon Locke dies and we
just, we couldn't, we couldn't do it.
Started that episode, man. It was like 20 or 30 seconds and
both me and you just died and Mark sitting there like, come
on, guys. Was that was that actually in
the episode or was? That just right before the ice
cube, the ice cube wasn't, you were taking a drink out of your
giant jug and you got an ice cube in your throat that you
weren't expecting. Like I, I got I could and we
were dying. We were already fucking around
during the pre recording and then that happened and we were
we were lost. That was it.
Just. Instantly before recording.
Yeah, that, that was just, that was it for me.
That that, that just that. That was funny as shit.
But. They're really all right.
Let's just let's just start because others we're never going
to start. And then we started and then,
yeah, we. Just couldn't keep.
It Jesus Christ all both of us over here tea cuddling and shit
like it was just. The tea is ready.
There's so many memories in just the past year.
It doesn't seem like it because we've recorded, what, an hour?
So an hour time is 52. That's 52 hours.
Oh yeah. But how many?
That's just over 2 days. Just over 2 days of recording.
Two days would be 48. I mean, we kind of went over 4
hours, yeah, yeah, we, we started to go over a little bit,
like 15 minutes even, but not counting all that, like, yeah,
just over 2 days of recording. And it's just there's so many
memories, yeah. There it's it's wonderful.
It it, it's a fun time. Oh yeah, it's great.
It's just been a good outlet, like just getting away from
craziness. Yeah, craziness, then
uncertainties of everything. You just.
And you? Said this.
Yeah, no, no, you're good is like I I do want to expand about
on that. It's just like, yeah, like be
being able to just see your friends.
That's I think where the magic of it is.
Yeah. And.
Being physically like there, yeah.
You can, you can play off of other people's like, but they're
basically their actions or their body language.
Yep. Their emotions, their physical
expressions. Yeah.
And not only that, but what you were saying, Brandon, is an
outlet. You said that this has been the
best thing since you stopped doing Todd and Friends.
Oh yeah, yeah. It's been just a great thing to
a great project to work on, just to be creative again, 'cause
yeah, ever since Devon had to leave, you know, he, him moving,
I really wasn't doing anything creatively, just didn't.
And that sucked 'cause I, you know, I would have liked to have
something that I was able to do besides just working, you know,
that that's, that's what was, that's what sucked.
But like it, like I said, it's, it's a project that is put kind
of to the side for now. And we've already come back to
it once after a couple of years. So maybe, maybe me and Devon
will do more with that in the future.
You know, I, I again never say never.
I didn't think we were going to do another episode after he
left. I didn't think he was going to
be coming back to see me, you know, 'cause these guys own
life. He's got a girlfriend, wife,
he's married. So like, hey, you know, that's.
As long as he's doing what he's doing for himself.
Yeah. Enjoying life?
He's in a lot better shape now, you know, then when you know, in
a better environment than what he was.
So that's, you know, I, that's all I can really ask for
honestly, you know, but no, this has been a good, nice creative
project. You know, all of our friends
outside of the podcast are, are supportive.
My parents have been supportive of it.
Emma's been supportive. My dad.
Oh yeah, and she's been on a couple episodes too.
Oh yeah, my girlfriend. 'S been supportive.
Yeah, Miss Shelby. Oh my God.
Yeah, and. Then Becca, she's been
supportive of it, too. She likes that I've got
something else to do 'cause she knows how much I love doing Todd
and that getting kind of put away for now, you know?
It's yeah. So she.
Wanted me to have something else.
And then there's Mark, who just shows up.
Hey, like like I I have I have had almost 0 Internet presence
until starting to do this with you guys.
That's pretty much been me too. I've avoided all social medias
and stuff like that for the longest time.
Yeah, like, like on social media, I'm just kind of not
existent anymore. Just avoiding all the old drama
that people try to keep bringing.
Oh my God, yeah. Yep, and.
It it's, it's like it's all high school stuff too.
It's not even stuff that involves me at all.
It's like I, I just don't care anymore.
But just being able to just kind of get our personalities out
there is honestly really refreshing.
Yeah, I didn't think I'd be doing that.
Yeah. I mean, it's kind of sad that
Jack hasn't didn't want to join us for this adventure.
I mean, it's fine. It's fine.
It's his choice. Oh.
Yeah. Which?
No, he's got his own reasons. I I I appreciate to respect his
reasons. Exactly.
Respect his boundaries, yeah. I will reference him though
'cause it is pretty funny. Just be like, Oh yeah.
Or of course, friend Jack. Yeah, dude, the.
Mythical friend Jack, the mythical man or John?
Fucking like air. No, I heard like the fucking
trumpets and everything, like just surrounding you, sing John.
There's like a whole like cadence and everything.
Jaw, jaw. It's like a, a Monty Python.
You've got a from the Holy Grail.
You got God talking. He's got the blooming, echoing
voice. Yeah.
Any time we say cha you. Have the you have the Angel
harmonic sound playing just yeah.
You know, it's, it's, it's just, it's just crazy to think that,
you know, when we started this, it was like, man, what the fuck,
You know, like, oh, maybe we'll just do it.
That'll be it. Yeah.
Oh, this is just going to be a short thing and we're, oh, we're
just not going to be that good at it.
I'm going to bring up the metrics.
You guys can keep talking, but there's like some sort of
metrics where I think it's 50% of podcasts don't make it past
episode 3. Yeah, something like that, yeah.
Let's see how. I did not know about until you
guys told me like a while back. Yeah, yeah.
That's that's honestly shocking. We is is.
If you guys don't mind me asking, is there any sort of
like reasoning why that's the statistic or is it just?
I mean, it's probably because. Emily.
It's probably because a bunch of people do it being like, Oh
yeah, we can get numbers or like they want to do it and see how
the process is and then they see the process and it's just it's
not their thing or they don't see the numbers.
Or it could what? I'm assuming this is all
assumptions, but I could it could also be Where is it going
with this? It's not exactly what they were
looking for. They weren't exactly what they
wanted, yeah. It was.
Like their expectations of that reach reach meet reality too
well. Yeah, and I mean, it could be
also, like Ethan said, the process of doing this could have
scared a lot of people off Now, I mean, I'm sure like all
podcasts, the way that they do things, you know, they're not
the same as what we do. Oh, the numbers are different.
Oh, how different. This one says 90% of podcasts
don't publish more than three episodes.
Holy shit. Oh, that's well.
That's 50%. Oh wow, that's a that's love.
That's a lot worse. That was also.
Four years ago, so. I mean, what do you think of
this? The pod fade threshold.
Roughly 75% of podcasts never make it past 10, and 90 don't
make it past 20. OK, that sounds a lot better.
That sounds. Yeah, that's that's plausible.
But still. Wow.
Because we're at. It's it's not like we're even
doing it for any sort of profit or fame or whatever.
We're just doing it to be a couple dorks on the Internet.
Yeah. Entertain some people, yeah, you
know, mind off of whatever's going on.
Like that's, that's the whole point of this is like we're
having fun and we like to kind of distract people from the
stresses of life because life is that way.
And it's, it's just nice to have kind of an outlet.
And if the outlet is us, then you know, that's cool.
We appreciate it. We're doing our part.
Yeah, we don't take, we don't take it for granted.
Like, we're kind of lucky to even be doing this.
I'm still shocked at the amount of people watching and you're
very much thankful for all of us.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Like it's just, it's, it's nice
that even just one person, like we've said, listens.
Yeah, I mean like. That's.
Cool. As long as we're having fun,
we're going to keep doing it like as I said before, and as we
will continue to save. Yeah, that's nothing's ever
changed. It's always been business as
usual. Even if something comes out of
this business as usual, it's we're.
Still going to be the same 3 goobers.
I mean, OK here, here's a question for you guys and feel
free to pull up Spotify. What was your or some of your
favorite episodes to be on? Or be it like maybe could could
be the topic, could be what happened in it?
Sort of like the reactions and feelings.
Yeah, we're giving off that. You guys like it?
Let me, let me 'cause one of my most hated was the mind of me.
I still fucking hate that episode and I skip it every
time. It's not exactly what I wanted
out of it. The the your, your.
I think it was your most recent episode, Mark.
Oh, you talking about the? Philosophy.
Yeah, the philosophy one, that one was pretty much the what I
wanted the mind of me to be. Yeah.
Got that episode so ass. I mean, hey, look, we're getting
into Season 2, so. Yeah, you know what?
We. Doing At some point we this is
gonna be. Season 2, yeah, I gotta really
do that. But you know, that's not I.
I guess you'd go either way, favorite or worst.
But one of my favourites has to be probably just both of the the
Sonic Mad Libs. I was going to say like those
were, those two are probably some of my favorite.
We're going to do that. Book at some point, I know.
I I feel like those episodes are a really fantastic way of just
showcasing who we are personality wise.
Yeah, no, it's just pure unadulterated us.
Yeah, unadulterated. Peter's Dick Vagina, Zimbabwe.
Like Jesus Christ, man, that's going to be like the the theme
of these going forward. How can we, how can we
incorporate Zimbabwe? They need to.
Get it right at Zimbabwe's please the plural.
And then meet and then the the other theme of this, because I
love to make fun of myself, forgetting how adverbs and
adjectives and all that shit fucking works.
I haven't done this shit since fucking middle school, brother.
Like, I don't, I don't remember this shit.
Yeah, every time you think. Another.
Adverbs. What do you mean?
That was pretty funny. Yeah.
You kept learning adverbs or now?
No. Was it adverbs?
What? What did Brandon keep getting?
Yeah. It was, I think it was an ad.
Yeah, it was adverbs. It was adverbs, yeah.
And he was finally, but no known.
Adverbs Fuck like it just the shit writes itself.
Like he's literally. We could not make this shit up
even if we tried. I I want to say.
The. Earliest episodes we tried to do
it scripted as in not not like scripted as in every interaction
is not every word out. We just wanted to try to
structure it with like a really basic Google Sheets with bullet
points on what we wanted to discuss.
Yeah, it's mainly like, what games are we talking about?
That kind of stuff. Honestly, that went out the
window like really soon into it. I stopped doing it because I
keep forgetting to download the app to my phone.
Yeah. And yeah, that's that's why.
And I mean, I and me, I usually like, I just, I use it probably
the most out of all of us just 'cause I don't want to forget
anything. Yeah.
Understandable. That's just That's just how I
work. I just don't have service at
work. Yeah, it doesn't.
You know it doesn't help. Yeah.
And at that point, I'm like, you know what?
I'm just going to focus on making sure my job is done
before I. Yeah, until you're waiting there
for three hours. Six hours trying to get 2 new
variables to cooperate. No, I'm just going to sit here
and wait for easy hours. I was waiting for test cycles to
complete. I was just complaining.
I was like I I have done nothing but sit and stared at the screen
for like 6 hours doing nothing. Another episode that was really
good. Games that made you rage.
I was going to bring that up. I was hoping, but I didn't want
to. I was hoping you were going to
bring that up. Yeah, that I.
I really love your expressionism with that stupid soccer game.
Shut up. I'm not dying.
Shut. Up those I ain't done yet.
And and they're just. Babies.
Literal fucking babies. Literal fucking babies.
You wouldn't believe how much I was dying when I was doing that.
That shit was funny. That was great.
Yeah, there was, there was a point where it's just like, like
you stopped with the, with the demonic voice.
I was just like, I was like out of breath.
I was sweating and everything. And then like, I got back into
it like little fucking babies and you just like fucking
pitched me down again it. Was really fucking funny it.
Was. God that was such a good
episode. I, I look at the game now and I
just laughed just because of that moment.
Like I was heated. I was actually mad.
His face turned red. It was like.
It was brighter than his hair. It was amazing.
And then Mark's trying to talk and shut up.
I'm not done. Yeah, shut up.
I just done. Yeah, I just Billy.
Mays here with Ray I just. I just, I just shut up.
I'm not done and. I'm like looking at his ass,
like I'm like looking at Mark. Like Mark shut up, Mark.
Shut up, Mark. I was amazed.
I was like, man, I used to play football and I and I'm I am like
twice to three times your size and I'm like, OK.
You've never heard of me just out of pure rage tell you to
shut up. That's why you're just like.
Getting to that couch so quick something.
Stabbed. That's new.
Never saw this one before. Oh, that was.
I had a headache after that too. I remember having a headache.
This could have breathed through a lot of these.
That was one of the early ones, 2123456.
Yeah, it was an early episode. It was in July.
Wow. Yeah, that's we, we got pretty
comfortable like you know like we said pretty quick and that's
when the that. Was our 8th episode.
Yeah, really. Yeah.
Came out, it was, it was good. This is, you know, this like
we've said, it's, it's been nothing but just a blast.
And we've been literally, and this is another thing that I'm
proud of us is being consistent with uploading.
We have literally not missed a day.
No, we. Have not there you've come close
I think once we've. Come close.
Yeah, yeah, my my Internet the one time being complete and
utter dog shit. I mean, before then, I wish we
could. Say the same for a light year.
But then. We're still working out like it.
It's a whole different ball game when you had to include video
and the file size is just so massive.
Yeah. But you can also blame me for
anyway. We, I, I know we talked, me and
Emma. She said she wanted to help me
out with editing these videos. Oh shit.
Really? Hell yeah.
She 'cause she told me she used to video edit it, like video
edit in her past. I told her if she wants to start
doing that. And this also goes for the
people listening, if you're gonna do any type of video
editing, OK. From my experience, because I've
used different softwares nowadays, if you have a Mac, use
like Final Cut if you're so inclined to using that, which is
perfectly fine. Final Cut Pro is another good
piece of software. Obviously a lot of people use
Adobe. I'm not a fan of Adobe, never
have been. But really I recommend Davinci
Resolve purely just because the free version gives you pretty
much everything you need. The studio version that's $300,
one time payment. OK, I I got that specifically
because there were some hardware acceleration features of being
able to render videos out pretty a lot quicker than not having
anything that's hardware accelerated.
Believe me, using your GPU for hardware acceleration for
rendering videos is really nice. So I'll keep that in mind, but
with just Davinci Resolve free, it gives you your cut and edit
pages which are like they they using the cut page.
It's a little weird, but it it's obviously what the name
suggests, you cut things out. Whoa.
Whoa. But it it goes, it actually goes
a. Revolutionary idea.
It goes more in depth than just that.
Like that page is actually like pretty nice to have when you
need to get something done quick.
Then like the edit page, self-explanatory.
You have your colour grading, which is supposed to be and, and
and it should be professional colour grading.
So you're able to, you know, colour grade fix, you know, if
something you know, brightness is too much or if colouring
seems a little washed out or you know all that shit.
The fusion page, that's for visual effects using a node
based system. That node based system is really
nice to use. It's a lot easier to use than
doing like layering. But nodes based systems can also
be a little messy. So you're going to want to kind
of consolidate everything into like their own things, their own
little sections on the on the nodes timeline, just so you
don't get confused on what's what, because that's really easy
to do because if you don't keep everything together, it looks
like spaghetti, literally. It can be kind of a pain in the
ass. And then there is also the
Fairlight page, which is where you do your audio editing, which
again, you can use Fairlight, but with editing podcast as
well. If you're, if you're not able to
afford getting like Logic Pro or Pro Tools or Studio Pro, which
was Studio One by Presonus, those softwares, you know, cost
money. But with Davinci Resolve, the
free version, you can use I think pretty much everything
that Fairlight has to offer. And they're also adding, which I
don't know if this is going to be in the free version.
It might be they're adding a photos page where you can
actually use Davinci Resolve to edit photos now that's currently
in. Beta at the time of.
This it's in beta at the time of this recording, but that's
that's another nice thing because they're color grading
page is great. And then you're able to
basically take that and use it in like a photo editing page.
It's just basic. What I'm getting at is Davinci
Resolve is basically a Swiss army tool like it.
It's literally has everything you need and you don't need to
buy the studio version to get the most out of it.
I wish this was out when I was doing Todd because it wasn't at
that time. I think Davinci Resolve was just
for Hollywood studios and, and, and all that shit 'cause it, it
is a, it has been used in films that you've probably have
watched. So you're getting basically the
same tools that professionals use.
And there's a bunch of guides and stuff online on Black
Magic's website. The people that make Davinci
Resolve, if you need like help with something they have like
free courses that you can watch and whatnot.
I'm basically teaching you how to use the software.
I personally, I've watched some of the courses or videos if you
want to call them and I've gone and kind of just did shit on my
own. Like I just figured out how to
do multicam view which is what's used in the later episodes of
Lightyear which has been nice as hell.
Again, wish I had that when I was doing Todd because there
were multicam views. I could have done with that but
I just did not have the software at the time.
But these are just kind of the the tools that we use when
editing this podcast. Like I said, Logic Pro and I
have used Davinci Resolve sometimes with it, but Logic Pro
is more, you know, it is a digital audio workstation
software that's really better designed to just be used with
the podcast if you're not doing any video with it.
But you can kind of take the advice from us.
It's, you know, it's been a year that we've been or will be a
year, June 9th doing this and it has been one hell of a ride with
it. I guess so.
Much learning. I guess before we wrap up here,
let me pose the question. Where, where, how do you guys
want to see just, I, I guess not just the podcast, but the rest
of our what, what, what, what would you say?
It's like a media. Content creation media.
Just trying to define just just what what our YouTube or our
podcasts are. I guess not exactly, but I guess
brand. Yeah.
In a way, yeah, I guess. In a way, yeah.
Like like for from you 2 specifically, where do you where
would you like to see us starting to grow and develop
into? Honestly, it'd be really cool,
you know, it doesn't have to be anytime soon, but getting into
streaming, I think that'd be a pretty cool thing to do is like,
especially once we start getting we're listeners on, you know, on
our podcast and more comments on our like our YouTube series
that's going on right now. To see more people actively,
yeah. Mm hmm, yeah, I I would
definitely would not be opposed to doing streaming once we get a
bit more of a solid B skilling, especially with just three of us
doing just more random games as we're going about it.
I really, I really definitely want to see our gaming side.
Start to develop. More.
And honestly, maybe maybe we could do, you know, games like
hell divers or stuff like that. Like, it doesn't have to be
there doesn't have to be a commitment to it, but.
Oh no, just little one off sessions where?
Brandon, if you get far far West, we can like do maybe an
episode on that. Yeah, yeah.
Or like those could also be games that we live stream again
if we decide to do that. Yeah, yeah.
There is a channel for like for the podcast on Twitch.
It should be in the description of the most recent episode that
was posted. Like, I honestly would not mind
doing some streaming on just on the podcast channel of just, you
know, us, you know, or, you know, whoever else might want to
be part of the streams and whatever that would be that that
would be pretty cool. But again, yeah, the the
foundation has to the foundation.
We kind of want to be there if you know, if that ever happens.
But it's been a, it's been 1 heck of a journey with it so
far. And we're there.
Obviously there will be an episode on the actual
anniversary of the podcast. Yeah, just so happens to let up.
Yes, and. Which I think is awesome.
It's going to be interesting. We're not going to say much, but
it's going to be. Yep, stay.
Tuned. Yeah, it's going to be fun.
It's going to be a surprise. A big old surprise.
It's going to be fun, I guess preluding it will be longer than
most episodes. Yes.
But yeah, we we got something big in mind.
Stay tuned, it'll be a treat. Oh yeah, it's going to be a lot
of fun just for everybody listening and everybody involved
in it. All right.
Well, I guess that wraps up for today guys.
We have been plugging for Player 4.
We're rapidly approaching the one year anniversary.
You can find us on Twitter, Blue Sky, iHeartRadio, Apple Music,
Spotify, YouTube. I think I checked all the boxes.
Brandon, if you may be able to recap.
Yeah, like any, any just basically majority of the the
major streaming platforms, we should be on it.
If there is one that you use that we're not on, you can
comment on this video or really any of the other ones and I'll
try to get it on there if I can. Yeah, Purina One dog chow
natures recipe Bakers Caesars. Please.
Friskies, Friskies I am. Sponsored by fucking dog and cat
food. I don't know how I'd feel about
that. Yeah, I've got a dog and some
cats. Oh, you fucking right.
For for right now, we don't have any sponsors.
Why would it be we? We're we're, we, we ain't
anybody. We're just three dudes acting
like dumb asses. Yeah, OK.
We've been plugging for Player 4.
Thanks so much for the journey so far and we can't wait to
continue to just make fun more, many more fun memories with
everybody. Stay tuned for the rest of the
year and for the beginning of Season 2.
I'm your host Mark, accompanied by Ethan and Brandon.
You may go ahead and unplug. Bye everybody.
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