Reflection

0:10 Hello and welcome to plugin for player 4. How are you guys doing today? Well, we welcomed your plugin for player 4. Go fuck yourself. Did you know he was doing? That. No, unless. Unless you can telepathically fucking talk to each other. I don't fucking. Know you can't. It's called a text message.

0:38 Hey, the same damn. Ass fuck.

0:42 Well, what have we been up to this week?

0:50 I've been, I've been attempting to get through my book, but it's been a hard read, dude. Not the book itself. It's just like life. It's just been like, and so I feel like when I go to read my book, yeah, when I go to not in that way. Shut up under your minds. I wasn't even sleeping that way, but I I, I, I was going with like the caveman route when I unga bunga.

1:19 A fire appears before me. What?

1:25 The fuck was that face? Jesus fucking Christ, no man, the fire. Fire, Firebird. Fire. Fire. Fire, Firebird Fire. Firebird. It's freaking out my dog. Shadow please. Stop that bit. Yeah, before Shadow decides to gnaw on you. He's already trying. Right now he's like, oh, I want to play. I'd like this game, Danny, I'm. Going to get you. I like, I like sounds that make me excited and want to play with my rope. Is my like daddy? My my Gumby. Gummy gummy. That and his bone that has so many sharp edges that he Shanks your ass.

2:12 I hate to say it, but we've stopped giving him Gumby. Oh, what? Oh, it it got it got to the point where he we got him a brand new one within the first hour. He already had it torn open and was pulling all the stuffing out. It's sad. He absolutely loves his Gumbies, but we we don't want him to get sick. It's it's just the sad part of it. What's the total Gumby kill count I need to know? It's like 3 or 4. Wow, that's more than I thought. Yeah, I knew it was at least 2. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's, it's like 3 or 4 now.

2:54 Yes, buddy. Hi. Hi. Daddy's being a moron on the Internet. It's OK, pick up in the mic. Yeah, very clearly. Yeah, he's just being an idiot on the Internet, both me and he. Like do I laugh at that or not? I was going to because I'm like, we heard this shit. He didn't mute, so it's on him. Oh no, not me talking. I knew I was still on the bike. I was talking about if you heard Shadow's breathing. No, no, he didn't. No. OK, OK. In. The episode, I would have ended it right there. That would have.

3:52 Been the episode? No, not not in the. Beginning. We're past that. We're past that. Anyways I. Cannot believe the time has flown so fast. We are rapidly approaching the one year anniversary of the channel. Which is June 9th. That is when we first published our our first episode, which was what games mean to us. I believe that's what that was. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's the first one. We've all three of us have learned a lot over this past year with the podcast and. Yes, we have. Me, me personally, I, I basically threw myself in the fire and decided to, well, kind of had to learn how to edit audio.

4:55 That was something I never really did. I'm more of a video editor, not a audio, but having both of those skills now is actually great.

5:08 It's never too late to learn. No, like seriously, like if there's something you really want to do.

5:16 Just start it off. Just just get you just get yourself into it. Yeah, just start somewhere. Sit down, learn, and don't let anybody tell you that you can't do it because. That's what I did with crochet. Yeah, it's, I didn't think I was going to be good enough to edit these episodes. And still, you know, being a year now that I've been doing that, that's still a lot of learning. And there's so much that's involved with just editing audio that I, I, I've never, I've never known. And like editing a podcast is really not that difficult.

5:58 That's, you know, when you start getting into like actually producing music, having to gadget, from my understanding, editing all of the instruments to, you know, God, not even that like just starting off songwriting, trying to get the music together. Like what is it going to sound like? Like there's there's just so much that goes into just audio in general and it's overwhelming, but it is something that if you think you're you think that you can do it, do it. Don't put yourself down just. Just keep going.

6:45 Just I sat down, I bought Logic Pro on the Mac and said, fuck it, you know, I want to do a podcast. I'm going to need to know how to edit shit. That's I just started and it's honestly been a great opportunity. I mean, I've been besides the podcast, I've been experimenting with just different, different things, different techniques

7:12 through like I have a couple projects I've thrown together. That's just, you know, you could call like music and whatever. It's not anything that's special. It's a bunch of like different things that Logic Pro has that I could just throw together. That's just, you know, just something I've been doing kind of trying to get better at this 'cause that actually helps with understanding what the different plug insurance do and all that. It it, it's a lot it, it really is. But like, you won't learn all of it in a lifetime.

7:45 But you don't need to know everything or even a lot to produce good audio. It's it's just something you got to invest your time in. And anybody who's ever thought about doing a podcast that listens to this, just go do it. It'll I. Mean. Terrifying at first, but. We started it in my game room and it's still to this day, it hasn't changed in a year. Well, OK, aside from the occasional online, which is what you're doing now. Recording, yes. Yeah. The the next two episodes will be this way. But we just did it in my game room, and it's barely enough to seat four people in chairs with how big that room is.

8:35 And we were able to do it. We started off with a mishmash of Mike's, like Brandon had his Mike. Mark had her hit another one of Brandon. Mike. That's right. It was a big Yeti, right? What? What was it? It was a Yeti, Mike, was it? So it was, well, it was going to be a Yeti Mike, but it's then turned to, well, you know what, let's use like the mic you have, Ethan. Yeah, 'cause I have, I have a $70 mic that it just, it was part of $100 set. So that was pretty cool when I bought it for streaming back when I did that.

9:18 Not that, that one anywhere, but

9:23 yeah, no, it's, it's still a pretty good mic. And it had actually had the what? The XLR port in the back. Yeah, the XLR port in the back. And Brandon was like, you know what, like the first time I recorded Brandon was like, I really like your mic. Let's get more of those. And I just, I bought it for streaming. I I saw the XLR port in the back going, oh, that's weird, huh, Never seen that before. Whatever. And it just so happened to have what we needed. Yeah, yeah, the the, the way that this podcast, what we do, like Ethan said, we're in the game room.

10:00 He has and soundproofed a little bit, but definitely we can do more in there. But it for right now it's it's honestly it's worked. Really. Yeah, No, it, it's, it's worked for now. I mean, I depending on how this goes in the future where we we're no time travelers or premonition people, but depending on those goes, we might have something better later on the line. But I'm perfectly content doing this in my own house. Yeah. And I'm, I'm not talking about them in my own house. I'm just talking about I'm, I'm comfortable doing this in my own house, whether it's online, whether it's they're here, whether in like in a metaphorical sense at Mark and Emma's house, what we did on, I think, Thanksgiving.

10:42 Yes, yeah, that. Was the thanks. That was the Thanksgiving episode. That's what I thought, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, the for people who might be curious, the way we do this is I have a basically it's a Tascam recorder that is a, it's basically called a portable studio. You can literally make music on this thing from start to finish. It's literally a portable studio. Something me and Mark vowed never to perceive. Yep, then they still don't to this day. Nope, but we use that with the three microphones and XLR cables recording on separate tracks.

11:26 Recording on separate tracks is good to do if you're able to for editing everybody's voice separately. It's just nice 'cause you have more freedom and doing what you want. But if you're doing recording like us with three people in the same room, the microphones we currently use are good for having multiple people in a room because these microphones are made in such a way and the way the diaphragm's made is it only picks up sound in front of it. Now that being said, depending on what device you use to record said voices, you're probably going to want to have some type of noise gate on or like just something to block out in case the microphones pick up somebody else 'cause that can happen if sound.

12:18 Off. The walls. High voice.

12:23 Oh God, he's gonna start skipping any.

12:29 But yeah, it's, it's a process, but honestly, it's it, it's a lot of fun. And it's honestly been nice to be kind of creative again, 'cause I used to do some stuff with my buddy Devon. We did some like just stupid fucking puppet videos or whatever. It's like called Todd and friends. Some dumb like Todd is always angry. He's always beating up his friends because he's bad and he goes in a bunch of stupid adventure. Like it it. It's just one of those things where something clicked with me and and Devon and we're like, we know what we're going to do this, which we do have an episode that is not released that we did record.

13:17 I did edit. The guys have seen it. When he goes, Todd goes to the dentist. That was funny. That was a fun video. That's right. My buddy Devon was in town and you know, we haven't seen each other and because he moved out of our state and he just showed up at my house, man, right after I got done with the shower. He's like, hey, you come outside in the front, what the fuck? And then here's his ass. I'm like mother fucker, We're like, he was like that scene with Arnold and that one guy, you son of a bitch, and they fucking hold hands and shit.

13:54 If you know, you know.

14:00 And I just kind of got an idea like he was in town for a couple days for his mom and I'm like, you know what? And I asked my if you want to, I know you don't have a camera. I've got an old iPhone camera works good my way. Just record an episode for the hell of it. If he was up to it and we did, and this is where I was able to test myself with, again, audio, The difference between the last video we did to this one is like a night and day thing. Just even just like audio and video. This, the skills definitely have gotten a lot better.

14:40 They've improved, but like I said, unfortunately with my buddy having to move to a different state, moving, you know, he, we couldn't really do this anymore. So it kind of just got put a kind of the back burner. It's not gone forever. It's it's something that I think is just going to be just kind of there. And if the time happens again like it did, I mean, you know, I, I didn't think we were going to do that. And maybe one of these days we'll have Devon on the podcast. I've told him about it. I don't know if he listens or not, but if you are listening, Devon, we'll have to have you on.

15:17 That'd be fun, even if it's Discord. I mean, I wouldn't. Mind that. I actually got, you know, this is this should be like, you know, I'll talk about after. But what I do want to talk about is the beginnings of this podcast, like the from the very concept is me, Brandon, Mark and check, I'm not sure if anyone else was there, but we were all playing Lethal Company. And I'm like, you know, we should start a podcast. And Brandon was just like sitting there in awe, just like why? Eyes wide open, dilated to the Max and like everything like, holy shit, we could do that.

16:01 We could just start, we could just start a podcast. You're not wrong. Like I remember after the session of Lethal Company, you're like, I want to do this now. I want to fucking do this. And then a while later, because I believe we had Mark's wedding that he was super stressed about, which fair at the time. And so we did it. After that we did our episode 0, which we were. We were so stiff. Oh dude it was bad like. Go back, go back to episode 1 and we were still stiffer than that. By episode 3 we were OK, I would say maybe 4 and it's only gotten better from there.

16:44 But still, though, it's like we were, oh, it was bad it. Was robotic. I still remember when we recorded the first episode, you know? And I remember it being hard as fuck to hit that record button. Really. That was super hard. I was anxious as a motherfucker. I was so terrified going into that. I was more so like, I guess 'cause I've heard my own voice from listen to man's dreams, whatever. Like I guess I'm just used to that. I'm not sure how you guys were, but I'm just like, I'm ready to do this.

17:21 And you guys were just like, OK, now I will talk. Having that pause between everybody talking. There was no overlapping, there was just. No feedback, no nothing. Just like awkward silence a little bit here and there. Not even here and there. It was like it was after every, not like it was after every sentence. It was every sentence. Yes, like anybody like I know that it on like Spotify. I seen like a a good amount of people have watched the first episode and you are a trooper. I'll be honest, it was it it it definitely was terrible yeah, I hated hearing my own voice.

18:03 I fuck. I still kind of I'm I'm used to it now, but I still don't like my voice. I think my voice sucks. I do, but you know, I'm sure other people tell me otherwise, but. Yeah, I mean. I, I was terrified of, I, I, I was feeling in some way just terrified to get my voice out there, get my personality out there. Just wondering how is our dynamic going to I guess sort of reach out to other people outside of the our friend group, our close knit group of friends? Well, I'm kind of the same way in you with you, Brandon, is that I?

18:41 There's times where I don't like hearing my voice or it sounds like there's a frog in my throat or something. But at this point, I'm just whatever, it's my voice. I don't think you can do to really change it. It's yeah. There's nothing I got to do to change it. But like, that's not the point. It's just it's me talking and that's how other people hear me. Like why? Why should I? Why should I care? That's how they're going to hear me. Nothing I can do to change about that. No amount of vocal training can realistically change my voice in the in the greater in the grand scheme of things.

19:18 Yeah. And I like hearing myself laugh. I still listen to these episodes back and whenever I do something stupid that I found funny, I I laugh. Like in one of the one of the episodes you said I think it was octopus octopi and I said octoppeople or something. And that was a reference to Phineas and Ferb. And when I first listened to the episode back, I said it on the same exact beat as I said it in the recording. And I laughed, I hollered, I laughed so hard, 'cause I hit the same exact beat. Jesus, the timing I. Know.

20:09 God I. Love hearing myself laugh. You do have a very characteristic laugh to you, I'll give you that. Yeah. Yeah. You have a laugh that's just not repeatable by anybody, and it's awesome. No, that's that's why I died from that one lethal company clip with a fucking mark getting shot by the God damn Nutcracker in the other room. I tried finding that on the on, on your, what is it, TikTok? Yeah, I couldn't find it on TikTok. Did you even post it there? It should be there. I couldn't find it. No, because that was.

20:48 That was a one. I burned myself out from putting that shit online. Jesus Christ, it was everyday. Yeah, understandable.

20:56 I I know I have that recording somewhere 'cause. I would love to hear that back. Dude, that's you. You like it was your normal laugh, but wheezing it was like it was stupid but it was funny. Did you hear Mark in all the room? And then the shotgun, like what the fuck? Yeah. Did you hear the, did you hear like the the clown horn like hit the floor? You heard something at the floor. It was just. It was the. Flash off the wall. That's what did it in. That's. What did it for me too? Like Jesus?

21:31 Christ, or can I say I'm a work of? Or like you or or you said the the time where you had the ghost girl, we didn't believe you and you just ran right into the ghost girl, killing yourself in lethal company. And the fact that we both stopped, both turned at you and then burst out laughing all at the same time. All of this happened obviously on the same time, over the course of a singular second. It was. Beautiful. It really fucking was. It was so good. It it you just couldn't you you just couldn't make that shit up, man.

22:11 That that was just comedically timed. Yeah. Did I just see this little girl? And I'm like, you know, I'm going to get back at these motherfuckers. Here we go. That was wonderful. That, that, that was oh. No, you're just pulling your strings. Everybody knows. Go state read it just.

22:32 What the fuck? Yeah, Oh my God. Like that's kind of something that came out of it with like in addition to our podcast was the recordings of Lethal Company 'cause that kind of happened around the same time a little before, obviously that was. Yeah, that was sort of the precursor to everything. Yeah, 'cause we were playing lethal company. Excuse me here. We go. Probably maybe three or four days a week, if I had to guess. Yeah, it. Was it was a lot of. Weeks. It was a lot, yeah. And I'm, I'm still down for it.

23:08 I still love it. Oh, same. I I really enjoyed the last session after putting that new brutal mod back in me. Too, I feel like brutal mod that brutal mod is a bit much. It is, yeah. Yeah, no, maybe not every time. No, 'cause we're not. Like we're not really getting anywhere. Yeah, with it, you know, I think we'll. Play around with more brutal mods, but I I think that definitely was the secret sauce kind of missing was just it's a little bit too easy right now. Yeah, the other brutal mod is like it would.

23:42 It would be something cryptic like the shadows are looking. Or some some shit. Yeah, yeah. And like, Oh yeah, free landmine day and there would just be landmines outside. What are we doing where, God forbid, turrets outside? Oh my. Christ that. Sucked, but anyway. Dogs inside the building or the bird inside the building? Dude, that one moon where where the coil heads can come outside the dangerous ass moon. Oh. Man sucked. I Oh God, that. Yeah. Yeah. I forget what, but I I remember when you're saying something to me so like you're talking shit and I'm like OK, and I turned my head and the coil heads killed you like that and I heard that shit.

24:40 I don't know what you're talking about though. I'll have to bring that clip up that that was a while ago. But so many good clips from the. But just, oh, this podcast just kind of came out of nothing. Like like I said at the beginning, Brandon was like I said, I set a side comment. I like we could do a podcast. Maybe not those exact words. It was something. Brandon the lines of Oh yeah, how fun would it be if we did a podcast and. Brandon could not just not drop the idea. No, I couldn't. And for for a week, you were a couple times you said, I want to try this, I want to try this.

25:21 And we did. Yep. We eventually got there. And then episode 0 happened a couple like probably six months later, maybe not that, but at least three months later, episode 1 finally came out. Oh fuck yeah. Oh my, I'm, I'm realizing the timeline on this. Yeah, 'cause though we had the wedding, yeah. And then it was like early spring after everything settled back down, we finally get together. We're like, all right, we're going to do the the trial on Discord. Yep. Shit, and we were even talking like, doesn't matter how many episodes we do, as long as we get comfortable with it.

26:02 We did one episode like months before the first episode came out. And then we recorded the second episode on the first, you know, episode 0, episode one for the podcast. And we were just let's do it. Let's put it out there. Just yeah, just bite the bullet. Let's go. I figured that we would have gone like 3-4 sessions before we actually put our first one out. Yeah, yeah. But oh, we were just get out. Let's do it right here, right now. Honestly only time like the now. Yeah. No, there's the time. Yeah, yeah.

26:37 God that was horrifying putting that out for the first time like. Dude, I'm in bed like, as you like. I didn't, I didn't think anything of it, 'cause all I do, all I do is bring a space to the table. I mean, obviously, obviously again, mine is the online stuff, but it's still a pretty big thing. But Brandon, you, you learned so much for this podcast and I congratulate you for all of that. And you still learn, and you still ask. More. As with our YouTube as well, now that we're doing YouTube, and OK, before I forget, this is advice I want to bring to anybody who's listening that wants to try their own podcast.

27:14 Don't expect immediate results. It's just like working out. You got to do your reps. I mean, if, if we want to kind of discuss statistics, I mean, for the longest time we've had like up to what is it like a half dozen people on every episode? Yeah, sort of like our best for the longest time. Especially one of them being me for a fact. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we. It would be. Yeah, about a half dozen of people. Yeah. And. Now we're up to what? Like what is it like 20th episode? It's like, yeah, like 19 or 20.

27:59 We, we had a actually a pretty big influx of views come in.

28:07 And we're probably what happened with that is with the podcast being on so many different sites that it could have for some reason got somewhere on one of those sites that you can't really tell what the analytics are because there are sites like that, like iHeartRadio, for instance, that does not have any statistics. So I I can't look at it.

28:31 But we're at we're we're finally seeing some growth. Yeah, and. Even even if it's not a lot, it's just. To us, it's a lot. Yeah. Even with just one person listening that that that's like, you know, we didn't start this podcast to be successful. This was just something that we thought, hey, this would be fun to do. And it still is to this day. If it happens, it happens. And if we ever decide that we're not having fun, why should we continue if that's what we have agreed at the start and that's how we're going to go about it, as if we're if as long as we're having fun, we're going to keep going.

29:11 Yeah. I'm still having a great time. Oh. Yeah, Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. If point proven. You want to know who else is Oh Yang and if. If the day comes that something happens with this podcast and it gets out there, hey, I mean, I, I hope that people use it for inspiration to do their own stuff, 'cause we're just three normal guys, man. That's the same. This it it. It's not. Man, who you talking normal? We three idiots, we 3. Oh, we can't say that word. No, we can't. There's no what? Word. Were you thinking I'm coming too, buddy?

30:03 Not, not like that, OK. We're just, we're just again, just three dudes that just decided, hey, we're going to try this and. Sounds like fun. It was, yeah, that. There's It's amazing to think, to think that people are valuing what we're doing enough to take time out of their days to just listen and. Even if it's for a car ride. Yeah, yeah, even even if it's just it's they could. Be listening to the music or or like the radio, some other podcasts, maybe a audio book something.

30:51 And that, that is pretty cool that they listen to us like they choose to listen to us. Yeah, that they actively are like, OK, I'll just listen in from time to time at least. Just yeah. Even if it is noncommittal, just the fact that people are taking time out of the day to at least put a little bit of us into their life is honestly amazing. I I honestly never thought we'd get like to this. Yeah, to the caliper that we're at now in this, in this amount of a time frame, I thought I was going to be like, oh, we'll just have really static numbers for like a year or two or something.

31:34 Yeah, that's what I thought too. We're going to go like nobody for a long time. And that's kind of how it was for streaming. And I've tried that. I don't know, for three years I didn't. I wanted to stream and entertain people for try to build a community, even just a Humble 5 regulars of stream. That's was kind of my thing I was going for. I don't care how many followers I get. Followers doesn't matter if you don't get people watching. That was my philosophy. And even if it wasn't the same 5 people every stream, like didn't have to be the number 5, but you know, good just a couple people that never happened.

32:11 But you know, now that I'm we're now that we're doing podcasting, it's kind of different kind of the same thing. I would still love to see some when we ask questions at the end of the episodes. I would love to see some form of interaction between which by the way, didn't you say that you has if you wanted to bring it up this in in this episode or outside of the did you say that you had something for us? So the YouTube we had someone comment.

32:51 Perfect time to bring it up. Yeah, honestly, it it is. Let's see. So it was our light year Frontier Part 5. Oh, OK, that's called. Part five. Wow. So part skip. So yeah, they're talking about, they're talking about, I guess this the seed modular thing. Yeah. Kind of surprise how many seeds you can have in it that it doesn't just fucking explode. Like just just a a random thing? Yeah, no, yeah, yeah. Which was, which was nice. I mean it, it it's nice to see that you know, that the the work that we do just entertain somebody for half an hour.

33:38 Yeah, no, seriously. Like that that's. It's the fact that it's doing something for somebody is it is a is an amazing feeling. Yeah. And I'm like, not gonna lie, we have, you know, we've talked about like, oh, if we, if we do grow, but this is a huge if again, that we do this for fun first and foremost, no matter what pillar, pillar, physical pillar, fun, everything else, all the other pillars can knock down whatever. But like we can, we can do a Patreon, we can do YouTube. We discussed that, which now we are doing or even maybe a subreddit to talk about whatever.

34:20 I don't know what we would do, you know, just like just a rough idea, but you know, just to get the community involved, just a little different ways to do that if we ever got like that. If we ever got to that point. Which I, I still think would be a good idea, but, you know, we're, we're just three dudes, three dudes and you guys listen to us. Be a bunch of babbling buffoons for an hour for. Babu Babu. Yeah, we don't. Get paid unless bless you. Dude. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, all you.

34:55 Know was fun the the Mad libs the Part 2 mad libs whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa it's like God damn, he's stuck someone smack up 'cause she was. Funny. Very good. Mark is a comedic fucking genius. He can't be here. I I often tell you guys I will. Well. String a better tuning. Ideas.

35:21 Or or or my favorite. Oh. God. Didn't we? Look at each other and just start laughing 10 minutes into the yeah. Not we were. Trying to keep it together, me and Brandon Locke dies and we just, we couldn't, we couldn't do it. Started that episode, man. It was like 20 or 30 seconds and both me and you just died and Mark sitting there like, come on, guys. Was that was that actually in the episode or was? That just right before the ice cube, the ice cube wasn't, you were taking a drink out of your giant jug and you got an ice cube in your throat that you weren't expecting.

36:00 Like I, I got I could and we were dying. We were already fucking around during the pre recording and then that happened and we were we were lost. That was it. Just. Instantly before recording. Yeah, that, that was just, that was it for me. That that, that just that. That was funny as shit. But. They're really all right. Let's just let's just start because others we're never going to start. And then we started and then, yeah, we. Just couldn't keep. It Jesus Christ all both of us over here tea cuddling and shit like it was just.

36:33 The tea is ready. There's so many memories in just the past year. It doesn't seem like it because we've recorded, what, an hour? So an hour time is 52. That's 52 hours. Oh yeah. But how many? That's just over 2 days. Just over 2 days of recording. Two days would be 48. I mean, we kind of went over 4 hours, yeah, yeah, we, we started to go over a little bit, like 15 minutes even, but not counting all that, like, yeah, just over 2 days of recording. And it's just there's so many memories, yeah. There it's it's wonderful.

37:16 It it, it's a fun time. Oh yeah, it's great. It's just been a good outlet, like just getting away from craziness. Yeah, craziness, then uncertainties of everything. You just. And you? Said this. Yeah, no, no, you're good is like I I do want to expand about on that. It's just like, yeah, like be being able to just see your friends. That's I think where the magic of it is.

37:45 Yeah. And. Being physically like there, yeah. You can, you can play off of other people's like, but they're basically their actions or their body language. Yep. Their emotions, their physical expressions. Yeah. And not only that, but what you were saying, Brandon, is an outlet. You said that this has been the best thing since you stopped doing Todd and Friends. Oh yeah, yeah. It's been just a great thing to a great project to work on, just to be creative again, 'cause yeah, ever since Devon had to leave, you know, he, him moving, I really wasn't doing anything creatively, just didn't.

38:30 And that sucked 'cause I, you know, I would have liked to have something that I was able to do besides just working, you know, that that's, that's what was, that's what sucked. But like it, like I said, it's, it's a project that is put kind of to the side for now. And we've already come back to it once after a couple of years. So maybe, maybe me and Devon will do more with that in the future. You know, I, I again never say never. I didn't think we were going to do another episode after he left. I didn't think he was going to be coming back to see me, you know, 'cause these guys own life.

39:17 He's got a girlfriend, wife, he's married. So like, hey, you know, that's. As long as he's doing what he's doing for himself. Yeah. Enjoying life? He's in a lot better shape now, you know, then when you know, in a better environment than what he was. So that's, you know, I, that's all I can really ask for honestly, you know, but no, this has been a good, nice creative project. You know, all of our friends outside of the podcast are, are supportive. My parents have been supportive of it. Emma's been supportive.

40:00 My dad. Oh yeah, and she's been on a couple episodes too. Oh yeah, my girlfriend. 'S been supportive. Yeah, Miss Shelby. Oh my God. Yeah, and. Then Becca, she's been supportive of it, too. She likes that I've got something else to do 'cause she knows how much I love doing Todd and that getting kind of put away for now, you know? It's yeah. So she. Wanted me to have something else. And then there's Mark, who just shows up. Hey, like like I I have I have had almost 0 Internet presence until starting to do this with you guys.

40:38 That's pretty much been me too. I've avoided all social medias and stuff like that for the longest time. Yeah, like, like on social media, I'm just kind of not existent anymore. Just avoiding all the old drama that people try to keep bringing. Oh my God, yeah. Yep, and. It it's, it's like it's all high school stuff too. It's not even stuff that involves me at all. It's like I, I just don't care anymore. But just being able to just kind of get our personalities out there is honestly really refreshing.

41:14 Yeah, I didn't think I'd be doing that. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of sad that Jack hasn't didn't want to join us for this adventure. I mean, it's fine. It's fine. It's his choice. Oh. Yeah. Which? No, he's got his own reasons. I I I appreciate to respect his reasons. Exactly. Respect his boundaries, yeah. I will reference him though 'cause it is pretty funny. Just be like, Oh yeah. Or of course, friend Jack. Yeah, dude, the. Mythical friend Jack, the mythical man or John?

41:48 Fucking like air. No, I heard like the fucking trumpets and everything, like just surrounding you, sing John. There's like a whole like cadence and everything. Jaw, jaw. It's like a, a Monty Python. You've got a from the Holy Grail. You got God talking. He's got the blooming, echoing voice. Yeah.

42:17 Any time we say cha you. Have the you have the Angel harmonic sound playing just yeah.

42:31 You know, it's, it's, it's just, it's just crazy to think that, you know, when we started this, it was like, man, what the fuck, You know, like, oh, maybe we'll just do it. That'll be it. Yeah. Oh, this is just going to be a short thing and we're, oh, we're just not going to be that good at it. I'm going to bring up the metrics. You guys can keep talking, but there's like some sort of metrics where I think it's 50% of podcasts don't make it past episode 3. Yeah, something like that, yeah. Let's see how.

43:03 I did not know about until you guys told me like a while back. Yeah, yeah. That's that's honestly shocking. We is is. If you guys don't mind me asking, is there any sort of like reasoning why that's the statistic or is it just? I mean, it's probably because. Emily. It's probably because a bunch of people do it being like, Oh yeah, we can get numbers or like they want to do it and see how the process is and then they see the process and it's just it's not their thing or they don't see the numbers.

43:39 Or it could what? I'm assuming this is all assumptions, but I could it could also be Where is it going with this? It's not exactly what they were looking for. They weren't exactly what they wanted, yeah. It was. Like their expectations of that reach reach meet reality too well. Yeah, and I mean, it could be also, like Ethan said, the process of doing this could have scared a lot of people off Now, I mean, I'm sure like all podcasts, the way that they do things, you know, they're not the same as what we do.

44:20 Oh, the numbers are different.

44:24 Oh, how different. This one says 90% of podcasts don't publish more than three episodes. Holy shit. Oh, that's well. That's 50%. Oh wow, that's a that's love. That's a lot worse. That was also. Four years ago, so. I mean, what do you think of this? The pod fade threshold. Roughly 75% of podcasts never make it past 10, and 90 don't make it past 20. OK, that sounds a lot better. That sounds. Yeah, that's that's plausible. But still. Wow. Because we're at. It's it's not like we're even doing it for any sort of profit or fame or whatever.

45:07 We're just doing it to be a couple dorks on the Internet. Yeah. Entertain some people, yeah, you know, mind off of whatever's going on. Like that's, that's the whole point of this is like we're having fun and we like to kind of distract people from the stresses of life because life is that way. And it's, it's just nice to have kind of an outlet. And if the outlet is us, then you know, that's cool. We appreciate it. We're doing our part. Yeah, we don't take, we don't take it for granted. Like, we're kind of lucky to even be doing this.

45:43 I'm still shocked at the amount of people watching and you're very much thankful for all of us. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like it's just, it's, it's nice that even just one person, like we've said, listens. Yeah, I mean like. That's. Cool. As long as we're having fun, we're going to keep doing it like as I said before, and as we will continue to save. Yeah, that's nothing's ever changed. It's always been business as usual. Even if something comes out of this business as usual, it's we're. Still going to be the same 3 goobers.

46:15 I mean, OK here, here's a question for you guys and feel free to pull up Spotify. What was your or some of your favorite episodes to be on? Or be it like maybe could could be the topic, could be what happened in it? Sort of like the reactions and feelings. Yeah, we're giving off that. You guys like it? Let me, let me 'cause one of my most hated was the mind of me. I still fucking hate that episode and I skip it every time. It's not exactly what I wanted out of it. The the your, your. I think it was your most recent episode, Mark.

46:54 Oh, you talking about the? Philosophy. Yeah, the philosophy one, that one was pretty much the what I wanted the mind of me to be. Yeah. Got that episode so ass. I mean, hey, look, we're getting into Season 2, so. Yeah, you know what? We. Doing At some point we this is gonna be. Season 2, yeah, I gotta really do that. But you know, that's not I. I guess you'd go either way, favorite or worst. But one of my favourites has to be probably just both of the the Sonic Mad Libs. I was going to say like those were, those two are probably some of my favorite.

47:44 We're going to do that. Book at some point, I know. I I feel like those episodes are a really fantastic way of just showcasing who we are personality wise. Yeah, no, it's just pure unadulterated us. Yeah, unadulterated. Peter's Dick Vagina, Zimbabwe. Like Jesus Christ, man, that's going to be like the the theme of these going forward. How can we, how can we incorporate Zimbabwe? They need to. Get it right at Zimbabwe's please the plural. And then meet and then the the other theme of this, because I love to make fun of myself, forgetting how adverbs and adjectives and all that shit fucking works.

48:40 I haven't done this shit since fucking middle school, brother. Like, I don't, I don't remember this shit. Yeah, every time you think. Another. Adverbs. What do you mean? That was pretty funny. Yeah. You kept learning adverbs or now? No. Was it adverbs? What? What did Brandon keep getting? Yeah. It was, I think it was an ad. Yeah, it was adverbs. It was adverbs, yeah. And he was finally, but no known. Adverbs Fuck like it just the shit writes itself. Like he's literally. We could not make this shit up even if we tried.

49:16 I I want to say. The. Earliest episodes we tried to do it scripted as in not not like scripted as in every interaction is not every word out. We just wanted to try to structure it with like a really basic Google Sheets with bullet points on what we wanted to discuss. Yeah, it's mainly like, what games are we talking about? That kind of stuff. Honestly, that went out the window like really soon into it. I stopped doing it because I keep forgetting to download the app to my phone. Yeah. And yeah, that's that's why.

49:54 And I mean, I and me, I usually like, I just, I use it probably the most out of all of us just 'cause I don't want to forget anything. Yeah. Understandable. That's just That's just how I work. I just don't have service at work. Yeah, it doesn't. You know it doesn't help. Yeah. And at that point, I'm like, you know what? I'm just going to focus on making sure my job is done before I. Yeah, until you're waiting there for three hours. Six hours trying to get 2 new variables to cooperate. No, I'm just going to sit here and wait for easy hours.

50:30 I was waiting for test cycles to complete. I was just complaining. I was like I I have done nothing but sit and stared at the screen for like 6 hours doing nothing. Another episode that was really good. Games that made you rage. I was going to bring that up. I was hoping, but I didn't want to. I was hoping you were going to bring that up. Yeah, that I. I really love your expressionism with that stupid soccer game. Shut up. I'm not dying. Shut. Up those I ain't done yet. And and they're just. Babies.

51:16 Literal fucking babies. Literal fucking babies. You wouldn't believe how much I was dying when I was doing that. That shit was funny. That was great. Yeah, there was, there was a point where it's just like, like you stopped with the, with the demonic voice. I was just like, I was like out of breath. I was sweating and everything. And then like, I got back into it like little fucking babies and you just like fucking pitched me down again it. Was really fucking funny it. Was. God that was such a good episode.

51:53 I, I look at the game now and I just laughed just because of that moment. Like I was heated. I was actually mad. His face turned red. It was like. It was brighter than his hair. It was amazing. And then Mark's trying to talk and shut up. I'm not done. Yeah, shut up. I just done. Yeah, I just Billy. Mays here with Ray I just. I just, I just shut up. I'm not done and. I'm like looking at his ass, like I'm like looking at Mark. Like Mark shut up, Mark. Shut up, Mark. I was amazed. I was like, man, I used to play football and I and I'm I am like twice to three times your size and I'm like, OK.

52:39 You've never heard of me just out of pure rage tell you to shut up. That's why you're just like. Getting to that couch so quick something. Stabbed. That's new.

52:52 Never saw this one before. Oh, that was. I had a headache after that too. I remember having a headache. This could have breathed through a lot of these.

53:10 That was one of the early ones, 2123456. Yeah, it was an early episode. It was in July. Wow. Yeah, that's we, we got pretty comfortable like you know like we said pretty quick and that's when the that. Was our 8th episode. Yeah, really. Yeah. Came out, it was, it was good. This is, you know, this like we've said, it's, it's been nothing but just a blast. And we've been literally, and this is another thing that I'm proud of us is being consistent with uploading. We have literally not missed a day.

54:00 No, we. Have not there you've come close I think once we've. Come close. Yeah, yeah, my my Internet the one time being complete and utter dog shit. I mean, before then, I wish we could. Say the same for a light year. But then. We're still working out like it. It's a whole different ball game when you had to include video and the file size is just so massive. Yeah. But you can also blame me for anyway. We, I, I know we talked, me and Emma. She said she wanted to help me out with editing these videos.

54:38 Oh shit. Really? Hell yeah. She 'cause she told me she used to video edit it, like video edit in her past. I told her if she wants to start doing that. And this also goes for the people listening, if you're gonna do any type of video editing, OK. From my experience, because I've used different softwares nowadays, if you have a Mac, use like Final Cut if you're so inclined to using that, which is perfectly fine. Final Cut Pro is another good piece of software. Obviously a lot of people use Adobe.

55:24 I'm not a fan of Adobe, never have been. But really I recommend Davinci Resolve purely just because the free version gives you pretty much everything you need. The studio version that's $300, one time payment. OK, I I got that specifically because there were some hardware acceleration features of being able to render videos out pretty a lot quicker than not having anything that's hardware accelerated. Believe me, using your GPU for hardware acceleration for rendering videos is really nice. So I'll keep that in mind, but with just Davinci Resolve free, it gives you your cut and edit pages which are like they they using the cut page.

56:30 It's a little weird, but it it's obviously what the name suggests, you cut things out. Whoa. Whoa. But it it goes, it actually goes a. Revolutionary idea. It goes more in depth than just that. Like that page is actually like pretty nice to have when you need to get something done quick.

56:53 Then like the edit page, self-explanatory.

56:58 You have your colour grading, which is supposed to be and, and and it should be professional colour grading. So you're able to, you know, colour grade fix, you know, if something you know, brightness is too much or if colouring seems a little washed out or you know all that shit. The fusion page, that's for visual effects using a node based system. That node based system is really nice to use. It's a lot easier to use than doing like layering. But nodes based systems can also be a little messy. So you're going to want to kind of consolidate everything into like their own things, their own little sections on the on the nodes timeline, just so you don't get confused on what's what, because that's really easy to do because if you don't keep everything together, it looks like spaghetti, literally.

57:53 It can be kind of a pain in the ass. And then there is also the Fairlight page, which is where you do your audio editing, which again, you can use Fairlight, but with editing podcast as well. If you're, if you're not able to afford getting like Logic Pro or Pro Tools or Studio Pro, which was Studio One by Presonus, those softwares, you know, cost money. But with Davinci Resolve, the free version, you can use I think pretty much everything that Fairlight has to offer. And they're also adding, which I don't know if this is going to be in the free version.

58:42 It might be they're adding a photos page where you can actually use Davinci Resolve to edit photos now that's currently in. Beta at the time of. This it's in beta at the time of this recording, but that's that's another nice thing because they're color grading page is great. And then you're able to basically take that and use it in like a photo editing page. It's just basic. What I'm getting at is Davinci Resolve is basically a Swiss army tool like it. It's literally has everything you need and you don't need to buy the studio version to get the most out of it.

59:25 I wish this was out when I was doing Todd because it wasn't at that time. I think Davinci Resolve was just for Hollywood studios and, and, and all that shit 'cause it, it is a, it has been used in films that you've probably have watched. So you're getting basically the same tools that professionals use.

59:54 And there's a bunch of guides and stuff online on Black Magic's website. The people that make Davinci Resolve, if you need like help with something they have like free courses that you can watch and whatnot. I'm basically teaching you how to use the software. I personally, I've watched some of the courses or videos if you want to call them and I've gone and kind of just did shit on my own. Like I just figured out how to do multicam view which is what's used in the later episodes of Lightyear which has been nice as hell.

1:00:33 Again, wish I had that when I was doing Todd because there were multicam views. I could have done with that but I just did not have the software at the time.

1:00:44 But these are just kind of the the tools that we use when editing this podcast. Like I said, Logic Pro and I have used Davinci Resolve sometimes with it, but Logic Pro is more, you know, it is a digital audio workstation software that's really better designed to just be used with the podcast if you're not doing any video with it.

1:01:10 But you can kind of take the advice from us. It's, you know, it's been a year that we've been or will be a year, June 9th doing this and it has been one hell of a ride with it. I guess so. Much learning. I guess before we wrap up here,

1:01:33 let me pose the question. Where, where, how do you guys want to see just, I, I guess not just the podcast, but the rest of our what, what, what, what would you say? It's like a media. Content creation media.

1:01:54 Just trying to define just just what what our YouTube or our podcasts are. I guess not exactly, but I guess brand. Yeah. In a way, yeah, I guess. In a way, yeah.

1:02:11 Like like for from you 2 specifically, where do you where would you like to see us starting to grow and develop into? Honestly, it'd be really cool, you know, it doesn't have to be anytime soon, but getting into streaming, I think that'd be a pretty cool thing to do is like, especially once we start getting we're listeners on, you know, on our podcast and more comments on our like our YouTube series that's going on right now. To see more people actively, yeah. Mm hmm, yeah, I I would definitely would not be opposed to doing streaming once we get a bit more of a solid B skilling, especially with just three of us doing just more random games as we're going about it.

1:03:08 I really, I really definitely want to see our gaming side. Start to develop. More.

1:03:16 And honestly, maybe maybe we could do, you know, games like hell divers or stuff like that. Like, it doesn't have to be there doesn't have to be a commitment to it, but. Oh no, just little one off sessions where? Brandon, if you get far far West, we can like do maybe an episode on that. Yeah, yeah. Or like those could also be games that we live stream again if we decide to do that. Yeah, yeah. There is a channel for like for the podcast on Twitch. It should be in the description of the most recent episode that was posted.

1:03:54 Like, I honestly would not mind doing some streaming on just on the podcast channel of just, you know, us, you know, or, you know, whoever else might want to be part of the streams and whatever that would be that that would be pretty cool. But again, yeah, the the foundation has to the foundation. We kind of want to be there if you know, if that ever happens.

1:04:33 But it's been a, it's been 1 heck of a journey with it so far. And we're there. Obviously there will be an episode on the actual anniversary of the podcast. Yeah, just so happens to let up. Yes, and. Which I think is awesome. It's going to be interesting. We're not going to say much, but it's going to be. Yep, stay. Tuned. Yeah, it's going to be fun. It's going to be a surprise. A big old surprise. It's going to be fun, I guess preluding it will be longer than most episodes. Yes. But yeah, we we got something big in mind.

1:05:23 Stay tuned, it'll be a treat. Oh yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun just for everybody listening and everybody involved in it. All right. Well, I guess that wraps up for today guys. We have been plugging for Player 4. We're rapidly approaching the one year anniversary. You can find us on Twitter, Blue Sky, iHeartRadio, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube. I think I checked all the boxes. Brandon, if you may be able to recap.

1:06:05 Yeah, like any, any just basically majority of the the major streaming platforms, we should be on it. If there is one that you use that we're not on, you can comment on this video or really any of the other ones and I'll try to get it on there if I can. Yeah, Purina One dog chow natures recipe Bakers Caesars. Please.

1:06:36 Friskies, Friskies I am. Sponsored by fucking dog and cat food. I don't know how I'd feel about that. Yeah, I've got a dog and some cats. Oh, you fucking right. For for right now, we don't have any sponsors. Why would it be we? We're we're, we, we ain't anybody. We're just three dudes acting like dumb asses. Yeah, OK. We've been plugging for Player 4. Thanks so much for the journey so far and we can't wait to continue to just make fun more, many more fun memories with everybody. Stay tuned for the rest of the year and for the beginning of Season 2.

1:07:27 I'm your host Mark, accompanied by Ethan and Brandon. You may go ahead and unplug. Bye everybody.