Games we couldn't beat as kids

0:01 Welcome to Plug in for player 4, where you the viewer of the

0:04 player four. I am your host this time.

0:07 Ethan, this is Brandon. Hello, this is Mark.

0:10 Hey. How are we doing guys?

0:13 It's hot. It's warp.

0:15 Very, very I'm I mean, I'm good. I got my Spyro.

0:18 Way to pledge you. I got my Spyro shirt.

0:21 I'm very Spyro today. I wish my wife and I had EC it

0:25 sucks. Enough.

0:29 Yeah. Yep, fair before.

0:31 Before we get to the topic, what games have we been playing

0:34 recently? What have we been up to?

0:39 So I started playing. It's called The Other Side.

0:44 It's it's a ghost hunting game. It's kind of like Phasmo, but

0:48 puts Phasmo to shame. Really.

0:51 In terms of scares, yes. Yeah, the Other Side is a much

0:58 more horror focus experience. Whereas Pheasmophobia is like a

1:03 spooky fun time with your friends, Other Side really

1:10 embraces a lot more horror elements.

1:12 Yeah, there's a lot more like interactions from the ghost.

1:17 Like they could randomly just slam open cabinets and fridges

1:21 and throw stuff. Like and like the entire room.

1:24 Yeah, like the entire like and what also what happened to me

1:28 today with that, before we get started with this, I guess the

1:32 ghost spawned next to me. Like it it wasn't hunting, but I

1:38 look over to my right and see it and then it goes away.

1:41 I almost fell out of my fucking chair like holy shit.

1:48 So if you haven't tried it plate, it's a it's actually

1:50 really good and it's on sale right now.

1:51 At the time of this recording on the Steam sale, yes.

1:54 Yeah, the Summer Steam Sale, The Steam Summer Sale, the Sale

1:57 Steam Star. It's just this this summer.

2:00 What about you, Mark? Like cheese?

2:04 Cheese. Cheese.

2:06 Yeah. No, our buddy Jack got to be

2:11 Baba is You for my birthday and I've been obsessing over it.

2:18 I've played it for two sessions and I'm already on like the the

2:22 third world. I am just loving the game.

2:27 It is tickling all the right spots in my brain.

2:31 I I love puzzle games. Like I've played Talos.

2:35 Talos too. I've played just so many, like

2:42 Cube Cube 2, Quantum Conundrum. That game makes me feel dumb.

2:50 There. Literally today I at work I

2:53 thought, you know what, I could play Bobbitt.

2:55 Nope, no I can't. Nope, Nope.

2:57 Don't even. Don't even entertain that

2:59 thought. Not happening.

3:01 Look, I'm sorry that my education had me focus a lot on

3:04 conditionals. No, that's fine.

3:07 That's great. It's, it's just a second way of

3:09 thinking for me. It's great.

3:12 Just be able to, yeah, change the conditions of the mat of the

3:18 level, and then figuring out how to use everything that's

3:23 available to you to your advantage.

3:25 And that's kind of what I like about it, is that, oh, you are

3:29 Baba, but now you are a flag. I am rock.

3:33 Yeah, I am water. Or you are dead.

3:38 You are dead. Oh box have love.

3:43 Anyway, for me, I've been playing two games.

3:47 One of them is talented, which I've actually gotten back into.

3:50 It's a $4.00 game on Steam that has a lot of content, or not a

3:57 lot of content depending on your point of view.

3:59 But there's, there's a gem of a game in there.

4:03 And then, well, you and me were playing Brandon Axolotl.

4:08 Yeah, yeah. Together that game, the new

4:11 Co-op update. Makes me bad.

4:15 Why? It's tough.

4:16 It is. It is a tough game.

4:18 Like I'm not like I was used to playing it just on my own.

4:21 Yeah, but having both of us, it fucks with me.

4:23 Oh yeah, it hurts. It makes it.

4:25 It makes it harder. Yeah, like I'm.

4:29 It's fun. It is.

4:30 It's cute as hell, humor is fucking great.

4:33 Oh my God, what? Was this game?

4:37 It's like AK Zolato but axolotl. OK.

4:42 Like it's a pawn on the gun, Yeah.

4:44 Yeah, yeah, OK. Yeah, it's it's a rogue lake, my

4:51 favorite, his favorite. And yeah, you play as an axolotl

4:55 that has guns and is upset because, you know, not just

4:58 because his family's gone, you know, fuck the family.

5:01 No, that's not the family. No, Who cares about family?

5:03 No, he's mad because his food's gone.

5:05 Yeah, so he goes on a. Fucking yeah.

5:07 He took a nap with his family, woke up family, whatever.

5:11 Open it up his chest and there was an IOU.

5:17 Not really, but there was a note saying I took your food.

5:20 And he grabbed his AK, cocked that bitch and went on.

5:23 He was bad. He saw the fire in his eyes and

5:27 shit like oh. Reasonable crash out.

5:30 Oh. Yeah, yeah.

5:31 I mean think about open up your fridge and you have no food.

5:35 You pull out the AK and you. I'd be resorting to violence

5:38 too. But very, it is a very fun game.

5:42 It's just getting used to playing it.

5:45 Co-op is its own beast. Oh yeah, and what's funny is

5:48 after playing Co-op, I got really good at the game.

5:51 Yeah, it kind of sucked like playing alone, but after playing

5:54 with you for a couple couple of rounds and then you said OK, I'm

5:59 done. This is this is a bit much right

6:01 now. Started playing a couple runs

6:03 for myself and I got to the 4th world out of five and I'm

6:10 sitting here like what the fuck? Deleting bosses the fucking

6:15 gatling gun and shit man Jesus Christ.

6:22 My two favorite upgrades in the game are the glaves where when

6:27 you shoot a bullet you have like a spinning glave around your

6:29 bullet. OK.

6:30 Or I think it's like Taser knuckles or whatever, I can't

6:38 remember, but your bullets have an aura, an electricity aura,

6:42 and both of them deal as much damage as your bullets deal.

6:47 So basically if you have one of them, you double your damage

6:50 output. If you have two of them, you

6:52 triple your damage output. Yeah.

6:55 Yeah, pretty, pretty. Much.

6:56 Yeah. And one of my favorite

6:58 characters right now is Chad. He only has one gun, but he gets

7:02 double the ammo on that gun and whenever you upgrade it you get

7:10 a slate boost to its damage. Yeah, there's different ones.

7:14 Anyway, getting into the topic at hand that I've hand picked

7:19 for US games you couldn't beat as kids.

7:24 I think this is an interesting one because there's we, we've

7:26 all been kids and we've all sucked at games in your kids.

7:30 Yeah, yeah. Been there.

7:34 But also some of those games as kids were really fucking hard.

7:39 They don't hand hold you like to do nowadays.

7:41 No, it's yeah, there's a there is a lot of hand holding, a lot

7:45 of the games. But also, sometimes you go back

7:47 to a game you're like, what was my problem?

7:50 Yeah, I'd like to say. Just breeze through it.

7:52 What was my problem playing this game?

7:54 Damn, I must have not been able to read it as a kid.

7:57 Or my hand eye coordination. God.

8:01 But no, one of them Crash Bandicoot, Wrath of Cortex, I'm

8:06 not sure if you guys played that as a kid, but to me that game

8:09 was impossible. There's there was I think 5

8:14 areas you could go to or five sets of levels.

8:17 I mean, and each area had maybe 4 levels and then a boss, maybe

8:24 5 levels in a boss. Can't remember, been too long

8:27 since I last played it, but basically the farthest I could

8:32 get was level 6 or 7. I don't, maybe 25.

8:39 Oh. Geez, there was a point where I

8:42 played, not recently, but I remember getting to the second

8:45 boss. OK.

8:47 'Cause I just revisited it, don't know how I got there.

8:50 I just remember putting the game down after that.

8:55 Don't know why, I don't know why.

8:57 This for you to look on your face, just trying to figure out

9:00 what went wrong, yeah. I mean, if I remember right that

9:04 game is like notoriously hard. Oh yeah, and it's also.

9:10 I forgot exactly what console it's on, but the loading screens

9:14 take forever. Yeah, there have been times

9:17 where I look at the screen. Kid me thinking, did the game

9:22 freeze? Not like freeze freeze, but like

9:26 did the game freeze to the point where it won't load?

9:29 Yep. Yeah.

9:30 'Cause it's the PS2. Yeah.

9:32 I just, yeah, I I just can't remember what console it was

9:36 'cause I think the Xbox was the way to play it.

9:40 I played PS2 'cause that's really all I had growing up.

9:43 Yeah, same. Yeah, the it's, it's kind of

9:48 funny how long that loading screen takes.

9:50 My. God, 'cause you're just like

9:51 watching crash fall, and you're like.

9:54 Oh my God, you're right. I was thinking it was a hologram

9:58 of Cortex's head or something. Yeah, now crashes like falling

10:01 and like he's kind of spinning. Oh, you're right.

10:04 And you're just like, can we like, can we play now?

10:07 Like it's been like fucking 5 minutes.

10:09 Can we please play like Jesus Christ?

10:15 If only there was like more interaction with it, like with

10:18 the the old Assassin's Creed loading screens where you just

10:21 got the playable character you're just printing off and

10:24 just yeah, into the nether. Let me tell you what, it was

10:28 weird watching my brother play Assassin's Creed 3 where it was

10:32 all those triangles or whatever shape was.

10:35 Yeah, yeah, that polygonal landscape.

10:40 Yeah. What is this?

10:45 This is not America, Yeah. This is.

10:48 Not Christ, but do you guys have any games to talk about?

10:54 How about you, Brandon? How about you start off?

10:58 So the original Kingdom Hearts, probably really the only reason

11:04 why I couldn't beat this is yeah, yeah.

11:05 Being a kid, like I, I got, I can't remember exactly what

11:11 world I got to. I know it wasn't very far

11:17 because that was one of the games that we got, like one of

11:20 the first games we got for the PS2.

11:24 Nowadays, I have played through it many times.

11:27 Yeah. And it kind of sucks.

11:29 I couldn't go through it as a kid because it's it is actually

11:33 a very fun time. Yeah, until you go play Kingdom

11:36 Hearts 2 and then you're like, why is the combat like this?

11:41 That's probably, I'd say my favorite Kingdom Hearts.

11:46 What, one or two? Two so far.

11:48 And then there's which I recently played last year and

11:53 finished Earth by Sleep because you had three different

11:57 characters that you can play as that you choose that have kind

12:01 of like different paths that they go on.

12:02 Yeah, I really enjoyed that. I thought that was good.

12:11 What one of the things though, that was kind of annoying until

12:15 you understand how it works, is the final boss as one of the

12:19 characters. It's Tara.

12:22 You you lose your like you lose control of your body.

12:30 I think it's Zaya Nords. I think.

12:32 Thank you. He he takes over your body and

12:40 you're just this like hunk of suit, like just like this.

12:44 It's a suit that oh. You said suit.

12:47 What'd you think? I said Soup.

12:49 Are you just hungry? Typically.

12:53 Are you talking like cards suit? No, no, no, not at all.

13:01 We're like far away from that. I'm sorry, Ethan, but the only

13:04 deck we're getting here is, yeah, a punch to the face.

13:08 Yeah, decked in the head. Yeah, so you're basically

13:13 controlling the the suit that the character wears when they're

13:18 like flying to different zones and that and the God, if I can

13:23 remember how the boss fight went, you couldn't directly

13:26 attack 'cause he'll just run away.

13:30 You'd have to like deflect some things to like stun him, which

13:34 only have a very small window to get to him before he just beats

13:37 the shit out of you. But it getting past it, it, it

13:44 was a decent fight. It just the the game didn't

13:48 really tell you what to do. Yeah, like he kind of had to

13:51 like kind of figure it out, which I mean, that's fine.

13:55 But I'd say out of those like Kingdom Hearts 2 and birth by

13:59 Sleep, like 2 of my favorites. So I, I, I fucking love them.

14:04 They're great. And is birth by sleep a Kingdom

14:07 Hearts game or is that just birth asleep?

14:08 Kingdom Hearts birth by sleep. Because I've never heard of that

14:11 one, actually. That is that.

14:13 More of like a like a spin off game.

14:15 I wouldn't say it's spin off no because it does tie into the

14:19 main like plot. Fair, but it was on the PSP only

14:27 makes sense. And then when they were starting

14:30 to do those compilations, they put Birth by Sleep with like

14:34 different Kingdom Hearts games. Are you talking the 1.52.5?

14:38 HD Yep, those two. Gotcha.

14:40 So those were those are like the best way you can, you can play

14:47 those games like just play Birth by Sleep on one of those

14:50 compilations. It's kind of a pain in the ass

14:54 to play on the PSP. So what about you, Mark?

15:00 What do you got? One game I couldn't beat as a

15:03 kid, the original Sonic Riders for the GameCube I got all the

15:10 way up until I want to believe is the final race it.

15:15 I just could not beat Jet for the life of AI.

15:19 Tried for bunts on and just going through that damn temple

15:25 and yeah, I, I don't know what it what's so different and

15:29 different about it. The AI is just has it, it seems

15:33 to have so many weights to make it much more difficult to deal

15:39 with because the AI is constantly getting speed

15:43 boosted. It's constantly getting items

15:47 and stuff that make it much more of a nuisance to actually race

15:54 against, and I just could not wrap my mind around it as a kid.

16:00 To this day I still haven't finished it, but that's also

16:03 because our copy of Sonic Riders got destroyed over time, so I

16:09 just have no way of going back to beating it right now.

16:13 What's funny is I have played this game a lot as a kid, but

16:16 that's because my brother played it, and so we're kind of in the

16:19 same boat. Yeah, it's just I don't think

16:23 I've ever really played the story I played.

16:28 The story, just through the hell of it because I was like, you

16:30 know what, I might as well try to beat the story.

16:32 But since we have, we have this game and we don't have too many,

16:38 my brother and I didn't have too many games growing up.

16:42 So we kind of had what we had, but I just, Oh my God, I, I just

16:49 got so infuriated every time. Just, I don't know how he kept

16:53 lapping me. I don't, I, I don't, I, I just

16:56 could not beat the level and I went through every single of the

17:01 level. I'm like, OK, cool.

17:03 This is still great. And I just hit a wall at the

17:06 end. And when you say temple, you

17:09 mean the Babylonian temple, right?

17:12 Yeah, it it, it's like a flying temple.

17:16 Of yeah, the Babylon Temple. Yeah, it was like the gardens.

17:21 It was like the the flying gardens or something.

17:25 Yeah. Yeah, so I remember that.

17:28 Oh, from what I do remember of that level, that's probably one

17:32 of my favourites. Yeah, it it's a gorgeous level.

17:35 Very it. It is just, yeah, unless if you

17:39 had like skills at racing games, like you were really, really

17:44 solid with your racers. It it, it just felt like a a

17:49 brick wall running like I was just running straight into it.

17:56 I can see it. Yeah, I've I've played some

18:01 Sonic Riders, but not like this particular one.

18:04 Yeah, I played the IT was 0 gravity on the Xbox 360 with the

18:09 Kinect, which was interesting. Like I.

18:16 Wait, what do you mean by that one with the Kinect?

18:18 There was. There was one with the Kinect,

18:20 but it wasn't. I think it was.

18:22 Zero gravity I don't think. I don't remember it being zero

18:24 gravity. Zero gravity.

18:26 Well then again I also played it on the PS2 but you can press

18:30 circle or square one of the two. Yeah, no for for the Xbox.

18:34 I think I correct me if I'm wrong.

18:37 For anybody remember it being Kinect only for the Xbox?

18:41 Yes. Yeah, yeah, it was.

18:42 It was Kinect only. Yeah, Are you sure you're not

18:44 thinking Sonic Free Riders? No, you might be right with free

18:48 riders. Maybe it is free riders.

18:51 Here's the boxer. Yep, that's it.

18:55 Yep Yep, Sonic free riders. My brother tried to play that

18:57 one and the tutorial was being stupid.

19:00 It's bad, but. You skipped the tutorial.

19:03 He's like screw this, whatever and tried to play it.

19:06 You just did not. The experience just it the

19:09 connect wasn't working for any of it.

19:11 I remember trying to play with Jared.

19:14 No, the connect kind of sucked for that game.

19:16 So the connect just kind of sucked in general, yeah.

19:21 So the part he was getting stuck on with the tutorial was it the

19:25 jumping? Yeah, probably.

19:27 Yeah, because yeah, if you didn't do it right.

19:29 Oh, sorry, you got to try again. Like.

19:32 Fuck you. Are you talking where you went

19:34 up like 1/2 pipe? Try to jump then maybe it was.

19:38 No, Maybe. He tried to go into a grind rail

19:41 or something. I can't.

19:41 No, literally you had to jump over like a.

19:44 It was like a holographic like. Like like a little barrier.

19:48 Yeah, and it's and if you bumped it, yeah, start over.

19:52 Yeah. And it's like, what kind of

19:55 fucking tutorial is this? Yeah, who signed off on this

19:58 shit? Oh dear God.

20:04 Just make it use the controller. Yeah, that's why you have it.

20:08 That's why it's there. Yeah.

20:10 No, we got to, we got to be really cool with the Kinect.

20:13 We have to use this tech somehow.

20:15 We developed, we spent millions on it.

20:18 We have to use it somehow. And it's not being used for any

20:22 games so well you. Know I mean that's kind of the

20:24 story of life though there was we were actually talking about

20:28 this earlier the PlayStation two I.

20:32 Oh, the I toy. Yep, I toy the Kinect.

20:35 Wasn't there something for the PS3?

20:38 It was the Move controllers. Yeah, the wand with like a ping

20:42 pong ball. Yeah, that was the.

20:45 Fucking I won't. Say such an awkward looking

20:47 thing. But I'll say though, they worked

20:50 pretty well. Fair.

20:51 They were actually not too bad. I remember playing one game on

20:54 it and that was frisbee golf. Probably 1 of the sports games

20:59 that like that comes like with it or some shit.

21:02 Like I thought that was pretty good.

21:03 Like at least it wasn't the Kinect.

21:06 Yeah. Like, my God, at least you had

21:08 something to hold on to. But yeah, it was like a it

21:12 looked, it looked like something else besides just a controller.

21:16 But we'll, you know, we're not going to say but.

21:21 Let your imaginations run wild. But it was fun, like, and

21:25 honestly that that was pretty cool, even though it was kind of

21:30 going off of the Wii, but whatever.

21:33 I mean to be fair. Kind of the consoles of that

21:35 generation were doing everything to do.

21:38 Motion. To do motion because the Wii.

21:42 Yep. It was such a weird time, but.

21:46 The Wii did it right. Yeah.

21:47 We did it right. Yeah.

21:50 It just feel like it just feels like everybody tried to to

21:55 emulate to the best of their reality and it just didn't pan

21:57 out. Honestly, I I think the Switch

22:01 falls into that problem too. Don't get me wrong, the motion

22:06 controls for the Switch pretty feel pretty good.

22:09 Yeah, but again, it's still you. You can't use it the same way

22:13 that the Wii that the Wii was working, because you can't point

22:17 at it. Yeah, you can't use the remote

22:20 to find point anywhere on the screen.

22:22 It's more of a gyroscope than I. Yeah, it's a gyroscope and setup

22:26 like. A motion control.

22:27 Yeah, yeah. And yeah, it it did well, but it

22:31 can get misaligned really easily.

22:33 So then you got to reset it. Yeah.

22:35 Like that was my problem with the Wii motion plus.

22:38 I remember trying to play Skyward Sword.

22:41 Not a bad game, but I remember having to reset it maybe once an

22:47 hour every two hours. Just play it on the switch.

22:51 Yeah. Like you can use the motion if

22:53 you want, Yeah, but then you you just play it normally, yeah.

22:57 It that game required the re motion plus you could not play

23:00 without it, yeah. Yeah.

23:02 That was another thing. Some of the games needed that.

23:04 Yeah, it's like that's the only one I know of.

23:07 There's that, There's we play that needed it.

23:12 What didn't we play need for? It was that, remember?

23:16 I forgot what what games it required cuz some of them would

23:20 tell you like you need it and it's like yeah KY, you know, but

23:27 then I mean you could get like the the Wii remotes that had a

23:30 built in yeah, instead of having to get like the dongle thing or

23:34 whatever. Like what's the Wii Motion Plus

23:37 part about? What's what are we?

23:38 Are we moving through time now? What's the plus?

23:44 Four, it's got the time loop, which is 5D chess.

23:48 What's the +4 if anything being worse at keeping track and you

23:53 have to read recenter it every? It's who?

23:58 Who knows? But anyway, going back to games,

24:03 we couldn't beat those kids. I'll I'll pick up again Super

24:07 Mario Bros 3. I'm not sure if you guys ever

24:11 played this game for for the Game Boy.

24:13 Yes, I think it was also on the NES.

24:16 Yeah, it was I. Played on like Game Boy.

24:18 I played on like Game Boy as well.

24:19 Oh OK. However, I don't remember

24:21 getting too far into the game. I got so far into it.

24:27 I don't, I don't remember. I all I remember was that at

24:30 some point I'm I'm like up with the clouds and is that I'm back

24:35 down to another world. I went through 70 worlds.

24:39 I think I got up to world 7 or 8.

24:42 I must have been towards the end of that game, but I just

24:45 couldn't anymore. You definitely got towards the

24:47 end of the game because that game gets harder as it goes.

24:51 It got so. It literally gets harder as you

24:53 go. I got into like some sort of

24:55 heavy industry level and I was just like, I don't know what's

24:59 going on. And think about that game is the

25:04 first world's pretty, pretty easy.

25:05 You can glide right through it. Whatever.

25:07 Yeah. Second World, the desert.

25:09 I tried to play that as an adult and I got frustrated.

25:12 Are you talking about the level of the sun?

25:14 No, just the desert in just. The desert in general, yeah.

25:18 At least I think too is the desert or it had like a maybe it

25:23 was just like a desert overworld.

25:26 Mm, hmm. Mm hmm.

25:28 Yeah, maybe not the levels themselves.

25:30 Yeah, as a kid, maybe you got to World 4, but as an adult, that

25:34 game tested my patience. Yeah.

25:37 I mean, even on the NES it's part.

25:40 Yeah, I mean, I feel like it's best played on the Game Boy,

25:47 though. I've never played on any, but

25:50 I've heard that it's better. Plus, you know, it's portable.

25:54 As a kid, you could take that anywhere.

25:56 You could play it anywhere. Yeah, that was great.

25:59 Now my my trouble level with that was the DM water world.

26:04 And yeah, there was one of the ones where the where the map

26:08 automatically side scrolled. I hate side scroll.

26:11 Levels and then you you had to deal with the fish that jumped

26:15 out of the water and would just instant kill you.

26:18 Yeah, if you, if you were small Mario, it was like a death

26:21 sentence. It it sucked.

26:23 Yeah. You just insta kill and you lose

26:26 a life and have to start the level over again.

26:28 Yep. God I hate auto scrollers.

26:33 Let me take my time damn it. You're sure you can put a timer

26:36 in the game, but let me take my time, damn it.

26:39 And the camp's like you're gonna go.

26:42 Yeah, and it's one thing if I hit the time limit, but it's

26:44 another thing if the game forces me to take a jump that I'm not

26:47 ready for. Yeah.

26:49 Then having enemies just come off like.

26:51 Off the screen, yeah, trying to find the timing or whatever.

26:54 It's I did not like those. They were frustrating.

26:59 That game did not hold your hand.

27:02 That sounds like that sounds like an old.

27:03 Mario, you had it. That's the old Super Mario.

27:06 'S Hey, at least it wasn't Super Mario Bros or Mario Bros Two.

27:10 I'm not sure if there's a difference.

27:12 The Lost Levels. Oh yeah, those were made.

27:16 Those are made to be infuriated. Oh yeah, yeah, I tried and.

27:20 I I don't dare not After touching Mario Bros Three, I

27:23 tried. Oh yeah, it's worse.

27:25 It's. Worse.

27:26 Oh, I bet. You will crack your.

27:28 Controller. I watched the guy played.

27:30 I was like, oh, I can't be that bad.

27:32 I actually got a chance to play it.

27:33 Oh my God, what was it? The second mission you go

27:38 underground and then there's just the random bloopa Yep that

27:42 you have to use as a jump to get across.

27:45 And if Yep. I'm sure if I had two as a kid

27:50 there would be a perfectly shaped controller hole in my

27:55 wall. Yeah, now that that was I like,

28:01 I tried it just because I was curious.

28:02 Yeah, that's fair enough. And my curiosity was not worth

28:07 it. Actually, it's not fucking worth

28:09 it. That was shit.

28:10 I only broke 4 ceiling fans, 2 mice, 3 keyboards and a old

28:17 desk. May have punched the cat as

28:21 well, but we don't talk about that.

28:22 And a hamper. And a hamper?

28:24 Actually, no, that went out the window.

28:28 Along with my laundry. That would be fucking

28:32 disgusting. Well, laundry all over your.

28:36 Lawn and then I'm like, I fucked.

28:38 That's my favorite shirts. No, I've got ticks in my

28:41 underwear. Yeah, what about you, Brandon?

28:47 Back to you. Toss it over your way in your

28:49 court. So we got SpongeBob SquarePants

28:55 movie video game. So while we were oh Jesus, while

29:01 I was playing this, because I actually decided to play it

29:04 again and take some notes and what not.

29:08 And as I'm going through the game, a lot of the grapes I had

29:11 with it as a kid really went away.

29:17 It's I thought a lot of the different sections like the

29:20 Paddy wagon or going down the, the like rock sliding with the

29:24 like the tub and shit was actually really fun.

29:28 Like I did not hate any second of it.

29:31 Yeah, and I'm like, why what happened?

29:35 Like, you know, like I will say one of the like a couple things

29:41 that I, I definitely didn't notice playing it again.

29:44 The Paddy wagon can be kind of slidy, can be kind of just

29:47 weird. Well, did you put on before you

29:49 continue? Did you play this on an emulator

29:51 or did you play this? Emulation.

29:54 That I'm not sure if it did, but it may have helped with updated

29:59 controls. E probably, yeah.

30:01 Maybe not though. I would have kind of preferred

30:04 having it, like playing it physically.

30:08 I mean, it's in my basement. And I think I I also have it

30:11 somewhere upstairs. In case you wanted to come over

30:14 here and never play it. Just go with me, Brandon.

30:18 Come down to my basement. No, no, my game room.

30:22 In the basement. In the basement.

30:24 Used to be in the basement, you know that?

30:26 Yeah, I know. Everything used to be done

30:28 there. Yeah, literally continue.

30:30 Sorry. No, you're good.

30:33 But yeah, playing through it. Like I said, the Paddy wagon was

30:37 kind of slippery but not awful. The the thing I do remember as a

30:42 kid that I fucking hated was the fucking ring challenges.

30:48 I don't remember those. So the ring challenges will be

30:51 specifically with the Paddy wagon or the rockslide, and

30:54 these rings have a timer. If you miss just one, you fail

31:00 and you have to go back to the beginning and do it all over

31:03 again. I might remember these.

31:05 'Cause they're these yellow, like yellow rings and they when

31:12 they turn red, they're about to disappear and it.

31:16 Looking it up. It was infuriating as a kid and

31:20 I think that is one of the grapes that a lot of people who

31:22 have played this have. But like the time challenges,

31:28 not a problem. Those are fine.

31:31 The time challenges, you want to try to before you get to the

31:36 time challenge, you want to look and see where there's like

31:39 shortcuts because they really help you because I think there

31:41 are, I don't know if there's like a level in particular that

31:46 if you don't take shortcuts, you will not make it.

31:48 You have to take the shortcuts. That sounds like the game.

31:53 But yeah, I mean that and also what was kind of weird.

32:01 I'm sorry, what? What?

32:02 I just, I I'm looking up pictures of the game and there's

32:08 one with the the blockchain. No SpongeBob ball.

32:14 All the SpongeBob. Yeah, those levels, Oh my God,

32:17 they I'm sorry, that's just nostalgia.

32:20 Those are actually pretty fun. They are.

32:21 They like they, they're challenging, very.

32:24 But they're, yeah, they're they're they're just fun, You

32:28 know, it's a nice challenge. Yeah.

32:32 But one of the things about when you're progressing through the

32:36 game, you have to get the goofy goober tokens and you only you

32:41 have to hit a certain threshold of them to get a new ability

32:44 that is required for you to progress in the game.

32:48 And whenever Mindy comes up on that fucking clamshell TV thing

32:52 and tells me, oh, you don't actually have enough for that

32:54 ability you need right now. So go ahead and go back and

32:57 we'll get some more. Fuck you.

32:59 I just want to play the fucking game.

33:01 I just want to play it, dammit. Like Battle for Bikini Bottom

33:06 did this great. It didn't have this stupid shit.

33:13 So that that's probably one of my biggest gripes with it now.

33:16 It's not a huge like threshold, but it's there nonetheless and

33:22 it's annoying. I remember as a kid playing

33:26 through the level where you're trying to get the key, the

33:28 spatula back. Yep.

33:33 And just looping through that level of trying to, because I

33:36 didn't understand it at the time, there was some sort of

33:41 ability you needed, but you just needed to play further along in

33:44 the game and collect more stuff to get or upgrade or something.

33:50 And I'm sitting here wondering to myself, why can't I do this?

33:56 Why can't I just do this? Yeah, How do I do?

34:01 Why? They just refuse to get off that

34:04 level for a long time. That's fair.

34:09 I. Solve the problem which is brute

34:11 force. Yeah.

34:14 One question, what do you think of the Patrick watermelon

34:20 explosion, Billy? Whatever the crap is.

34:23 Oh, I like you like. You.

34:24 I hated that. Like the like challenges with

34:28 him with that or like the throwing the.

34:30 Just throwing the watermelon for certain.

34:34 I mean, it's fine. Like they're OK.

34:41 Like I know there are some challenges I remember.

34:43 Struggling with it so much. They my memory is a little fuzzy

34:49 with it because I I don't actually think I got to that

34:53 point, at least from what I was playing it yesterday as a kid.

34:58 I'm pretty sure I have gotten to that, but I wouldn't be

35:02 surprised if I had trouble with it.

35:04 It was some of those challenges were pain in the ass.

35:10 I know SpongeBob has one that it's like the the like rocket

35:14 that you shoot, I think, and you like have to go through this

35:17 like tunnel or whatever, like it's like a SEC course.

35:21 I don't remember that I my memory's really bad.

35:25 That that could be irritating 'cause I think you only I don't

35:32 know if you have to go through like not rings, but something

35:34 that like gives you more time with the the rocket that you're

35:38 like bubble rocket get you shoot 'cause I think it explodes after

35:41 a certain period and it some of those could get infuriating.

35:46 I remember that, but still it was it's it's a good challenge

35:53 like this. Revisiting this game honestly

35:56 was a lot better than I initially thought.

35:59 It was kind of funny. I'm not gonna lie like my, my,

36:03 my memory was completely fucked. Like why is this so good?

36:08 I thought this was an ad. Like I will say Battle for

36:12 Bikini Bottom is better. I don't care.

36:14 Anybody tells me it's better. It flows better.

36:18 Like you have these hubs that you can be in because the movie

36:23 video game is a lot more linear. Yeah, just kind of level.

36:26 Select. That's because.

36:27 It just goes in the next. Level.

36:28 Yeah, it it, it's tied to the story of the movie.

36:32 Yeah, which I mean, fine, I don't hate that.

36:33 Yeah, it's fine. Kind of like it because you get

36:36 to play the movie, yeah. Pretty much play the.

36:38 Yeah, as a kid, that was awesome.

36:40 Yeah, now as an adult, I kind of like the Hub because you can go

36:44 around and explore and shit, yeah, you know, but.

36:48 It I, it just to me, feels like Bale for Bikini Bottom had a lot

36:52 more creativity because of the open endedness of it.

36:56 Oh, for sure, it was it it could focus more in its own story, in

37:00 its own, yeah, its own mechanics.

37:03 It it just had a lot more to it. But I will say that the movie

37:07 game was no slouch. They definitely did good with

37:10 it. Yeah.

37:10 And like that's a lot to say now because I mean what the newest

37:16 the newest SpongeBob game was the like cosmic something I

37:20 forgot what the hell it was called like it's it's actual and

37:22 new SpongeBob game that came out last.

37:24 Year. Was that the same style of Yes

37:28 saddle and I didn't know that. Yeah, it was, it was really

37:32 good. I I thought it was great.

37:33 And there's another, another game for like they're making for

37:37 SpongeBob that's supposed to come out like next year.

37:42 Like they're actually kind of reviving it.

37:44 And honestly, I I like that. They should make they should

37:48 make a game like those the movie Battle for Bikini Bottom for

37:55 each movie that has come out. It was either either going to be

38:01 great. Sponge out of water.

38:04 Actually, they did make a game or sponge out of water and it

38:07 was really, and it was awful. Oh, never mind.

38:10 Yeah, they they mean, they mean the intense.

38:13 Yes, you need to watch a review on that.

38:18 That fucking sauce. Oh my God.

38:22 Or a review on Revenge of the Flying Dutchman.

38:28 I think that's what it's. Called.

38:29 That sounds like APS one game. It's a GameCube, GameCube, PS2

38:34 really. And it's they fucked it up.

38:39 Like, like literally, they fucked it up from the very start

38:42 of the game. Oh no.

38:44 What does SpongeBob wake up to his alarm clock, right?

38:49 No, no, he just, he just fucking gets up off the bed and like,

38:53 oh, I had a great dream. You don't hear the fucking horn

38:56 at all. And you're like, oh, this is

38:59 going to be bad. Who screwed that up?

39:01 This is going to be fucking bad. I am upset.

39:06 And there's a bunch of other shit.

39:08 You'll have to watch a review on it.

39:10 You'll know. You'll know.

39:12 I I don't know that argument being like a good faith

39:15 argument, because you can go back to the bell for McKee

39:18 bought of it. You can you can tell they

39:21 couldn't get the Mr. Krebs voice actor for.

39:23 The game, I mean, yes, yeah, but that's still a better game,

39:27 yeah. Like, Oh yeah, definitely.

39:29 Like. They couldn't get Mr. Krebs.

39:31 No, they couldn't. Literally unplayable.

39:34 I don't under like, that's what always like I couldn't think

39:39 it's. Probably a timing issue if if I

39:43 can think about it I can look it up.

39:45 I mean, it's probably a timing issue, yeah.

39:50 But yeah, no, that's my my thing there.

39:55 I'd like, I really did like revisiting that SpongeBob game.

40:00 It was actually a really good time.

40:02 Did you want to go Mark, or do you want me to do a little one

40:05 while you're you? Can do another little one while

40:07 I'm searching this up. A little one is Sonic Heroes.

40:12 I had this for the PS2 grown up. Honestly I really don't remember

40:20 much. I looked it up recently how far

40:24 I actually got into the game. It was about halfway.

40:27 Do you remember what level? You were on.

40:31 I'd have to look it up again. OK, it was before like the

40:34 treetop level. I'm not going to look it up

40:38 right now, but I remember that you had, what, four teams?

40:45 Yes, there was, you know, Sonic, Knuckles, Tails.

40:49 There was. Team Dark.

40:52 Yeah, Team Dark. Shadow Omega Rouge.

40:56 Chaotic or Well, you had Rose, so that would have been Amy.

41:00 Oh yeah, Rose, Amy, Cream and big.

41:04 And then and. Then chaotic.

41:05 Which was the be the alligator and.

41:08 Yeah, there's SPO Charming. That's right.

41:11 And vector. Which as a kid not knowing much

41:14 about Sonic other than, you know, kinda Team Dark and Team

41:19 Shadow. Whatever.

41:23 Looking at Team Chaotic, who are these guys?

41:26 Yep, they're just detectives I I liked so their their gameplay

41:35 you had to go like fine. Stuff.

41:39 I remember playing those of them, but I don't remember the

41:41 difference. I remember playing through some

41:43 of the levels, mainly the casino or sling.

41:48 No, what was it, Pinball. All the one like casino type

41:53 level that was bad, that was not a good level stupid it was not.

41:59 Good, that's the one that lives rent free in my head and I don't

42:01 even know what's it about. It's not good.

42:04 I've got that answer for you guys.

42:06 Yeah, apparently the voice actor for Mr. Krabs and the voice

42:11 actor for Mermaid Man couldn't make it.

42:15 I'm not sure why Mermaid Man couldn't make it, but the voice

42:19 actor for Mr. Krebs is actually lending his voice to another

42:23 project at the time. I had a feeling.

42:25 So it was just a time management issue.

42:27 I wonder if with with Mermaid Man, I wonder if the actor

42:30 passed away before the game So I know the original voice actor

42:35 did die. Oh yeah, he passed away.

42:37 I can't remember if that if that was an issue or not, but you

42:43 know, Sonic Heroes, it's fun, but it's fine.

42:46 It's just super fucking slippery.

42:49 Yeah, and God help you if you're going really fast, you know,

42:53 because of the Sonic game. Yeah, you're going fast as fuck.

42:56 It was actually one of the one of the few 3D Sonic games that

43:00 actually went really damn quick. Well, and yeah, and like you.

43:04 And it was fast, it was exhilarating, it was fun, yeah,

43:07 but God help you when you're going fast as fuck and you just

43:10 turn a little bit and Sonic goes left like he just hits the

43:15 fucking wall like it's. Straight on a 90° turn.

43:20 I remember this. Oh God.

43:22 Fuck, it's like doing a fucking U-turn like.

43:26 You just backtracking like what the hell.

43:28 Like you could not move that controller stick at all or you

43:33 or like I said, you hit the wall or the fucking geometry gives

43:38 up, you go. Through it you go through.

43:40 It was bad. But it was so good.

43:44 But it was so good. It is a fun game, yeah, do not

43:47 get me wrong. And that's why I played it.

43:51 It's just I, I really liked how you could swap between the

43:55 characters. Yeah.

43:56 How you had a speed character, a flying character and what power,

44:00 power character. It's.

44:02 It it's good, yeah. It it's fun.

44:04 It it executed well for what it was, it was great.

44:08 But being a Sonic game, you want to go fast, but the physics say

44:12 you don't want to go. Fast.

44:14 The the physics can't handle you going fast.

44:17 I just. I 'cause I forgot about that.

44:19 I was not playing it for so long.

44:21 And yeah, I was playing it on the on the Xbox, at the game

44:24 shop I was at. Yeah, and I forgot and I'm going

44:28 fast and literally I hit the controller stick just a little

44:32 bit, you know, right to the left.

44:34 I have to get it again for the GameCube.

44:36 I remember having so many good memories of the game.

44:38 I think that's. I also remember what was a team

44:41 dark with shadow Rouge and the robot guy.

44:46 Yeah, Omega. Omega yeah, I remember that

44:49 being so difficult to figure out as a kid.

44:51 Well, that's the thing. I talked to Jack recently and

44:55 not too recently but recently about this and I guess he says

45:00 team dark is hard mode. Yeah, it is harder.

45:03 Yes, yes. But it was my favorite mode.

45:07 And. I loved it so much.

45:08 It was like, why is it so difficult?

45:10 But it's so good. Yeah, because I think Sonic is

45:13 Sonic's team is easy is considered normal.

45:16 Yeah, it makes sense. Team Dark is hard.

45:18 Team Rose is easy. And then?

45:21 What team chaotics? They're kind of in their own.

45:24 Things, yeah. I I I love.

45:27 I don't. Know Charmie baby, God has

45:29 abandoned us. I I love team chaotic.

45:34 Yeah. But Charmie just fucking

45:38 irritates me. God, the voice.

45:40 It's yeah, I think even one of the characters tells him.

45:44 Can you just stop talking? Yeah.

45:46 I, I believe, yeah. I I I think that was one of the

45:50 voice lines. Can you just stop?

45:53 Dude, there's so many clips in that game, yeah, like Tails

45:56 going watch out or whatever. Or, or when you're like going up

46:00 in the air, he's like and you're like, can you fucking knock,

46:05 stop, fuck. I was also liked how when you

46:22 were the flying character, the whole team kind of swung like a

46:26 really awkward, stiff pendulum. Yes, yeah.

46:31 Oh my God. It was just solid pendulum bass.

46:40 Fuck, this just hit me going in a in a circle in the, I don't

46:45 know if you made it to this level, Ethan, but it was like a

46:46 haunted house. Oh God.

46:49 No, I want that level. I love it too.

46:52 But when you're as Team Sonic, when you're going around this

46:55 like big like area in like a circle, Tails, he's just like

47:00 the room is spinning. Yeah, I'm looking at the levels

47:05 right now, OK. But it not it it it was a fun

47:10 game. It was, it was functional like

47:12 it, yeah, it had its issues, but I mean, that's the time it came

47:16 out it. It definitely wasn't an O 6.

47:19 No, it was not an O 6, I can tell you that.

47:21 Game. Oh God, I mean everybody has

47:25 shit on OO6 it's just redundant. At this point.

47:28 But. There's nothing new you'd say

47:30 about it. But honestly, there there are

47:32 games that are much worse than Sonic O 6.

47:36 That's true. I can tell you that at least

47:38 Sonico 6 for the most part is kind of functional and you can

47:42 kind of play it. There are games that aren't

47:46 Yeah. So I, you know, you can dog on

47:50 Sonico 6. Yes.

47:51 It wasn't great, yeah. But I kind of liked like the

47:55 cinematics, like when they weren't just they weren't in

47:58 game like in game engine ones, but actual cinematics that

48:03 actually it looked fantastic. I mean it.

48:06 Was great. Eggman looked cool in in that,

48:09 like it was they were doing something right.

48:14 It was just unfortunately it got rushed.

48:16 Yeah, 'cause I can tell you this, if there was more time, it

48:19 probably would have been great. Oh yeah.

48:22 But. Again, it was it was the time

48:24 that it came out. They, I don't know if it was

48:26 Sega's shareholders or whoever they wanted it out when the new

48:31 consoles were coming. And when you do that, you're

48:36 it's you're. Just going to miss some stuff,

48:38 especially back in the day where you couldn't just push a patch

48:43 out, you had to live with what you had.

48:46 I was looking up Sonic Forces, not Sonic Heroes, don't mind me.

48:49 Oh God, Forces, that's that. It's a mediocre game at best.

48:52 I'm sorry. I, I you're.

48:54 Fine, I know nothing about. It you're better off, yeah,

48:58 you're not missing anything. No, it's I said Sonico 6 could

49:05 have been a good game, but now there is a fan.

49:12 Like I don't know if it's a group of people, but I mean,

49:16 like there's a lot of like hacking seen in Sonic.

49:20 Maybe even have a entire contest that's dedicated to it.

49:24 And this is for 2D Sonic games, 3D Sonic games, stuff like that.

49:27 But there is a team that is completely rebuilding Sonic O6

49:32 on a different engine and there you can play it.

49:34 Now there is AI, don't know if it's completely finished.

49:38 I think all three characters are playable.

49:42 But they they're rebuilding it with a better engine with.

49:45 Better physics. Better physics, better controls.

49:48 But it is literally Sonic O 6 now.

49:50 It's still, I mean it does still have issues, but let me tell you

49:54 the difference between the two. Night and fucking day.

49:57 Oh my God it feels so good. It's and they added so much

50:03 other stuff too. Different try then.

50:06 It's I would it is it is a fun time and I'm very proud of them

50:13 for wanting to fix something that I mean really didn't need

50:16 to be fixed. It's just a game that could have

50:19 just went away. But no, there are people who do

50:22 love Sonic O 6 for what it is, you know, and I'm I'm I'm OK

50:28 with that. I I really do love the Sonic

50:31 Sonic's just seen in general. It's the fact that Sega let's

50:37 everybody make make games, full-fledged games from their

50:41 IP. Now they're not being sold.

50:43 Yeah, but Sega really loves to see it.

50:47 Yeah. OK, so it was either stage 9

50:51 Frog Forest that it didn't play or stage 10 Lost Jungle that it

50:56 never played. OK.

50:57 Beyond you're that's about halfway.

51:02 Yeah, that's about halfway, yeah.

51:03 That's it. That's halfway.

51:05 I mean, that's, that's fine. I'd say pick it up again.

51:08 I I think it's in my basement right now.

51:10 I kind of want to after talking about it.

51:12 Oh yeah. Like it's like it's got its

51:15 frustrating. Parts.

51:16 Oh, I bet, but. It's still a good time.

51:19 Yeah, and you kind of got to look at it as it is older.

51:22 It is an older game. So yes, it will be annoying at

51:25 times, but don't get overly annoyed.

51:27 It's just. It is what it is.

51:29 Yeah, I mean, I don't tend to get annoyed at older games.

51:32 It's kind of just a product of it's.

51:34 Time of it's time. I have to sometimes remind

51:37 myself that because I get annoyed and I'm like it's all

51:41 the. Game.

51:42 However, there's newer games or sometimes I just look at them

51:45 and I want to squeeze their throat, just shake their head

51:48 and be like, why won't you work? But that's a different story for

51:52 a different day. That sounds like a topic for a

51:55 different episode. Yes, Yeah.

52:00 Well, what about you, Mark? I think I could round out

52:03 today's episode. We'll talk about Super Mario

52:06 Sunshine. OK, Yeah, no, I, I remember, I,

52:11 I don't know how my wife beat this game and I still can't beat

52:15 it because I, I have to check her save profile again because

52:19 I, I think she's got it 100%. She's a God.

52:22 She's a God at the game but I'm just amazed to be in her

52:26 presence. No I remember what what broke me

52:30 was getting all the red coins in the haunted house level or the

52:34 haunted resort with the time limit.

52:38 Just trying to figure out the maze while being so under

52:43 stressed and finding all the damn coins.

52:46 Knowing nothing about this game, that's something absolute ass.

52:50 Yeah, it was that level. And getting the damn melon past

52:54 all the ducks on the beach. All dude, yeah, this one wrong

52:57 movement. It destroys it.

52:58 Yeah, and you have to start all the way over on the other side

53:01 of that God damn map. It's one of the Shine Sprites I

53:04 believe you get. Yeah, but but you have to get

53:08 the melon to the guy. Did you sit?

53:10 And not only do you had to pass it by all the ducks who could

53:13 just destroy it instantly, you had you have to get it over the

53:18 bridge. Oh, yeah.

53:20 If if you mess up on the bridge, you have to do all of that over

53:24 again. Is the bridge like thinner?

53:26 It's a thin bridge. It's a thin plank bridge that's

53:31 just about as wide as the melon. And it can fall in the water.

53:35 It can fall in the water and just get just get destroyed.

53:38 Is this a push kind of deal? Yeah, yeah.

53:41 You use the water. You use the water from flow to

53:46 push the melon. Physics are enabled Oh.

53:49 Yeah, it's a physics based watermelon.

53:52 It is. So not only do you have to worry

53:54 about the ducks destroying the melon, the ducks launching you,

53:59 hurting you, and then destroying the melon while you're stunned

54:03 I. Forgot the ducks fucking do

54:05 that. They just.

54:06 Eat. You what they say like they'll

54:08 if you get too close, they'll put you on their beak and

54:11 fucking you like 10 fucking floors up like this fucking.

54:16 You're stunned for like 5 seconds and then they come come

54:19 over and just wail on your ass. And it's funny when you're up in

54:23 the air and then Mario. It gets Jesus.

54:29 Yeah, it. So infuriating.

54:33 It's a good game. Oh yeah, it's a great game.

54:37 Do not under any circumstance 100% that it is not fucking

54:42 worth it. What you get at the end is not

54:44 worth it. It's.

54:46 Not just Belzer Junior. Going up to Belzer was like,

54:51 she's not my mommy, is she? No, no she's not.

54:56 Now like, like what? Well.

54:59 That's the end of the campaign. I know, I know.

55:01 This is where Bowser junior was, like, introduced, Yeah.

55:05 Well, Mark, do you know what you get at the end if you get all

55:08 120 China sprites? I don't remember.

55:12 Do you care anything if I say it?

55:14 Go for it, I'll probably never play this game.

55:17 It's a fucking picture. Cool.

55:20 Oh yeah, of like, I think it's all like the the, the Islanders

55:23 or whatever. Yeah.

55:25 That's all you get for all the pain.

55:28 And OK, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna plug this real quick.

55:33 Go watch some Call Me Johnny. His video on that will tell you

55:38 exactly the pain and suffering this man went through.

55:44 He had to drink his sorrows away and pass the fuck out.

55:50 Just watch. Just watch his video.

55:52 Oh my God. Although I will pick it up again

55:55 for the nostalgic feeling of a the first, the first time you go

56:00 to the haunted resort and you had to deal with all the manta

56:02 rays. Yes, Yeah.

56:04 And like and. Also just the giant manta ray

56:06 bus and the game. I loved it.

56:09 The mechanics for like flow is or flood is.

56:13 Oh yeah, it is flood. It's flood, yeah.

56:15 Flow is fucking progressive. 2 letters on those.

56:22 Mario feels really good. Yeah, like it is a good.

56:25 Game. It is a very solid control game.

56:28 I missed something. It's.

56:31 Probably better off that way, but fair enough.

56:35 Like he Mario does play very well.

56:37 So it's it's just such a shame that there were a lot of things

56:42 that were botched. Yeah.

56:44 And and that being Nintendo watching shit, Bailey's back

56:49 then was kind of like. It was something that the fuck.

56:53 Yeah. Yeah.

56:54 Nowadays, well, that's up for interpretation.

56:57 That's seems like everyone. That's everybody.

57:00 That's that's the whole industry.

57:02 That's again a whole another episode.

57:05 That's something that we can talk about down the line.

57:10 But I have one more thing I want to talk.

57:13 All right, no. All right.

57:15 Not allowed? Go home.

57:17 So I'm sure anybody who has played Sonic the Hedgehog 3 has

57:22 gone through this. I'm not a part of this

57:25 conversation. I don't think I'm you guys.

57:26 I don't think I am. Brandon's showing his age here.

57:33 The barrel of doom? Yes, the barrel of Doom.

57:41 The barrel of Doom, so there is AI don't know if I can't

57:46 remember. This is a mandatory thing you

57:47 got to go through, but a lot of the times if it's your first

57:50 playthrough, you're probably going to go through it during

57:52 one of the zones of Carnival night.

57:56 There is this barrel that is in the way of a section that you

58:01 can go down on, like you can go down like in.

58:04 And the problem is the game doesn't tell you how to deal

58:10 with this. So it is a spinning.

58:12 It's a spinning barrel. And you can have Sonic and Tails

58:16 jump on it and it does move kind of like up and down.

58:19 Yeah. Well, what's your first

58:22 instinct? Keep jumping at it and try to

58:24 get it to go down more? No, it's not how it works.

58:28 You're trying to everything to figure out what the fuck to do

58:30 with this. This is where a lot of people's

58:32 runs have ended. Really it already.

58:35 They've died multiple times. So what you have to do is you

58:39 have to have Sonic on it and he's like turning with it and

58:44 you have to hit up and down on the D pad.

58:47 And what will happen is the barrel will start going up and

58:51 down so that you can get it to go down far enough so you can

58:54 get off of it and continue. But even then, I still have

58:59 fucking trouble with this shit. And it's like, why did they not

59:03 say what do you need to fucking do?

59:06 Why? Why is it such an awkward

59:08 mechanic? I don't know.

59:09 That's why I don't like carnival night.

59:11 Yeah. Like is it just nicknamed the

59:13 Barrel of Doom? It's like literally that's what

59:17 people call it because it's. That yeah.

59:18 OK, Yeah, it's a community name. For, it was your, it was a

59:21 nickname or. No, it's not the actual name.

59:25 No, I, I forgot if it was like spinning barrel or something, I

59:28 don't know. But like it was so infuriating

59:33 trying to figure that out 'cause you know, you also are on a time

59:37 crunch. If you hit 10 minutes, you die.

59:40 That's the problem. So I don't know what they were

59:46 thinking with that, but whatever.

59:48 But nowadays you can literally look it up and see how to deal

59:52 with it. Yeah.

59:55 But yeah, Sonic 3, that's a fun game, one of my favorites.

1:00:01 Well, then I guess you want to wrap it up, Ethan.

1:00:04 Yeah, I guess so. Mister Man, Mister man man.

1:00:10 That's me, Mister Man. I now go by Mister Man.

1:00:13 I don't go by Ethan anymore. I have.

1:00:15 I'm a changed Mister Man. I'm a changed Mister man.

1:00:19 Yes, I am real man. I am real, man.

1:00:23 You want to go skateboards? You want to go skateboards?

1:00:25 Yes, I am human. Would you like to go skateboards

1:00:27 or whatever the fuck it is? STF.

1:00:33 Anyway, thank you guys for plugging in for player 4 but it

1:00:37 is time to unplug and go about our lives.

1:00:40 Y'all have a good one? Bye everybody.