Favorite Horror Games

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Moving on. Today's topic? His favorite horror games? Yeah. Apparently the non non guy over there is dying still, so we'll get to. The kitchen that's right you non guy and. Apparently, and I didn't say this. You just, you just forfeited all of your rights. Apparent. Non guy. That's fine by me. I'll be non guy this episode. It's like what's that movie not Ready player 1 free guy except I'm non guy. Fall guy? Nope. No Free Guy. In Free Guy, the main character is Guy. And then there's Dude, you know?

There's a reason why we're a video game channel and not a movie channel. We should pivot. Oh God no, I don't watch movie. I don't. I don't either, but to each their own. Movie quality has gone down in years. That's why I don't watch movies. Yeah, honestly, the CGI kind of takes me out of it. That's I like more practical. Like around 2010. Ever since Davy Jones from Pirates of the Caribbean, CGI has gone downhill. Unless if you have like those really special works where people actually give a fuck, it's just gone downhill.

Dude, I feel like every level, every level, we're a video game cut podcast. Every movie should have like Transformers one CGI. Yeah, that. Was pretty good, but again, everybody. Got cheap, especially the first time Optimus transformed. Just seeing those millions of parts moving, it was kind of sad. That was pretty cool, yeah.

And unfortunately they simplified it, but you know, yeah, that's, that's what they do with series. I mean I don't mind them simplifying it, just hate. Handling the fact that we live in a world where CGI was better in the past. Yeah. Go on. Yeah. We we relive in a world where Transformers 1 exists in the same time period as the fucking Lilo and Stitch remake. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because this is just fucking God awful what they did with that movie. Anyway. Like the video games? Well. Eventually. Eventually.

I I have something on movies I like more practical effects. Something is actually done in front of the camera or can be kind of manipulated with the actors. Have you seen some of the behind the scenes stuff that they did for those smile movies? I have not. Oh my God, it's impressive. One of my Co worker was I was actually talking about that. Yeah, yeah. How? It's literally only practical effects. She said that the first one was really creepy. Yeah. And I am over here like, all right, never watching it.

Yeah, got it. Oh yeah, it's super fucking creepy. Well, like, I like practical effects. Just because of watching the Angry Video Game Nerd movie, there was some CGI, obviously things that you just couldn't do. Yeah. But probably about 98% of the movie was practical effects and seeing the behind the scenes of how they did everything. All these models they built right? Like, it's just cool 'cause like James said, it's when you, when people see these practical effects and kind of see, OK, that's how they did it.

It can actually sometimes bring these people into the filmmaking world just to see like, you know, this is how we do things, you know, get people intrigued in it. It's yeah, it's cool. I, I don't know, it's cool. You OK with her? You're the other guy. He's stuck in the past right now. Brandon Reel is back in. We we didn't get back on the rails like right now. So anyway, favorite horror? Games. That is our topic. So I guess I'll go first with this SO. Meet us, Brandon. My lead. Us back to the herd.

Lead us to the land of milk and honey. Other guy some. So my first game here is Resident Evil, but more so Resident Evil 4. Too easy to go next? Nope. You're gonna sit there. You're gonna sit there other. Guy generic answer wrong.

So this Resident Evil in general is my favorite horror game. That's just how it is. So we, I originally did play this when it came out with my uncle Chris. He actually like bought it, came over to my house, right? And we sat in my room, we were playing it and whatnot.

That game in particular has a lot of good memories because with my Uncle Chris, unfortunately no longer with us,

that was our game. Yeah, that's what we played probably like 99% of the time. Yeah, because he'd watched me like over the summer, you know, when my parents have to work and whatnot or take me to school. Yeah, it's just something you guys did a lot as a best time. Yeah, it was. It's it's kind of nice having all those memories with it because when he did pass it was hard to play it. Yeah, obviously I can see why. It was, it was hard and I didn't touch it for probably a couple years. I'm being honest, it was it was a little while.

When you have that much sentimentality wrapped into it, it's gonna be a difficult thing to move forward. Yeah, because I mean, whenever I see this game or see Leon on Uncle, Yeah, right there, that's just. Even with all the memes that my wife and I send you. It's so memeable though. That's the thing man. The memes are great because I still have his original copy of Resident Wolf One in the GameCube. Yeah. With like inside the case is actually we, we used to kind of see who's better at getting a high score with one of the characters in the mercenaries mode, which is basically just kill enemies trying to you know, and my uncle actually wrote down, I think it was either Krauser or Wesker on one of the levels he wrote down like what what score he got.

So I have a piece of them there. You know, his handwriting was great. Better than my chicken scratch. Can't fucking see anything when I you can't read my shit, man. It's bad. It's really bad. It's just chicken scratch. Mine is scribbles. I I got that. Weird half print, half cursive depending on what combination of letters I'm writing. Here's the thing. I print outside the lens and there are no lines. I print outside of the lines on my plain printer paper. This is why you're the other guy. Good. But yeah, no, it's Rosio 4, like I said, is very close to me and this is the original game that yeah, the.

Remake. Yeah, the remake is fucking great too. But you you just have that more sentimentality with. With the original, yeah. And it's, I mean, it also revolutionized a lot of like the over the shoulder cameras and stuff like that. Even though Capcom does milk it, I can tell you that. But. You pulled her punching ass. No way. I died when he fucking said that the first time. When I heard that, I'm like, Oh my God, we're recalling fucking five. Shit, OK. I put some 5 in my foot. Like fucking Christ.

But it's, and there's a a lot of people who love RE4. There's like a whole like the whole community is. It's a lot bigger than I thought it was. Oh God. Yeah, like, Oh yeah.

And I mean even the fact that they have a a full HD mod for it that was painstakingly made that upgrades all textures, all character models, everything to modern day graphics. That's pretty damn cool. And there's even a, it's called the HD Project. It's fucking huge. It's like 30 gigs. It's a. Whole new game right there. Yeah, so you're adding it on to a game that's like 8 gigs, not ten, something like that. Something that can fit into ACD real easily. It's into something that can't. Yeah.

It was interesting is I I found out with that HD mod they added a like a location after you. I think it's chapter 222 I think or 2/3. You have to choose a path if you're going to fight the LG Dante, which is the huge giant, or the Bella Sisters, which are two ladies of chainsaws. Oh. Von. Yes, God, they're full. So if if you go with the Bella sisters, after you kill them and whatnot and progress through that area, there is a like a wooden door that you can go through. And this is in the original game.

This like wooden door in this like area, but what's not in the main game is there's this little area looks like it's blocked off, like you couldn't actually get into it. Well, with the HD mod, the developers, they let you jump over this like little area and there's a door that leads you to a different area that's completely new that has like writing on the walls. That's like you can use like a translator because it goes from Spanish to English. And he can also pick up a silencer for the handgun, which is not normally obtainable in the main game.

It's only seen in the mercenaries mode when he plays Wesker because he has it on his gun. So it was kind of interesting. Like I, I was like floored. I'm like, holy shit, like, what the fuck? You know, because I'm like thinking about this and I'm like, was this in the main game? This doesn't feel like this was in the main game. And lo and behold, yeah, it's the HD project. They specifically made that area. That's pretty cool, though, yeah, That's the thing that they can add on to new areas of the game, yeah.

Like that's cool. Even then there have been like remakes or re releases or whatever where they do kind of boost an area or you know, yeah, and they add a little something here and there to the game. Yeah, no, I. Not very often, but it does happen. It it does, and I mean, I I definitely do appreciate that they've just Capcom in general has re released Residentville 4 so much like on just your consoles? Yeah, because it it is a game that has such a huge legacy and

it's just crazy to think about it. Yeah, really. Like. Where where things are now, right? Seeing where they came from. And with having a remake for the game, which funny enough, a lot of people, you know, say like, well, since we have the remake, why? Why play the original anymore? It's because they're two different games. They're not the same. Oh yeah. The the story is the same, there is some differences but gameplay wise different. Both games have something to offer and I'd say to anybody, play the original before you play the remake.

Yeah. Right, just one so you can. Understand where it's coming. From you enjoy the the references that it might throw in. Yeah. But it's just great. I really do enjoy it. You know, this is actually a question that I've been meaning to ask you. Not exactly related, but it is. It's not going to be related to the thing. I heard somewhere that I guess the original Devil May Cry was supposed to be a Resident Evil game. Do you know anything about this? So it's. So I think it's actually the reverse. So yes, I have heard of this.

So when they were developing Resident Evil 4, what we saw with Devil May Cry is kind of what Resident Evil 4 was going to be, but it just it strayed off from what Resident Evil is that Capcom didn't know like OK, do we do we make this Resident Evil 4 or do we just scrap it, get rid of it? What not? And they in turn made a new game out of it. So developing resin will four made a new IP? Shit. Because that's cool. RE4 went through a lot of different builds before settling on what we have now. Because you had one where Leon's infected with a this like that was like some kind of like, shadow or whatnot that got scrapped because the the GameCube couldn't handle rendering that.

Yeah, that fog or whatever. OK, who's too much for it to handle. Then you had another build that was going to be more of a psychological horror game, OK, where Leon is again infected and is starting to notice hallucinations happening. And one of those in particular is the Hook Man, which was an enemy that had really a hook. Yeah, that would like come out of paintings or some shit. And then I think after that is when they decided, OK, this is what Rezi before is going to be and this is what we have now.

It I said it went through a lot. It kind of went through a lot like RE2RE2 went through many different builds to the point of they had a build that was pretty much almost complete and they scrapped it because it it was not what they wanted. It didn't feel like a true successor to the original game, to the original game. So that's what's dubbed Resident Evil 1.5, which you can actually obtain and play it now again, it's not finished. You know, it's it's all fucked up. Yeah, but. You can see the ideas that they were going with.

Yes, 'cause we didn't have Leon was already a thing. Yeah, he, his story was a little different. He was again, a cop, but he was with I think the RPD for like a few months to a year or something. So he, he was already there instead of what we got where he, it's his first day. Claire was not a thing. Instead it was Elsa Walker,

which funny enough they Capcom referenced that with a costume for Claire in the RET you make. Oh, that's funny. So you get the head that the costume that they that Elsa wore. Oh.

Like it, it was. It's interesting with the back story of a lot of those games. Like RE 3 was not meant to be a mainline title, it was supposed to be a side title. Honestly, I'd barely know anything about residual 3. It's to be fair. So it's basically you play as Jill. This is going like the the game is going through between like 2 and three it. It's fucking weird. 'Cause like the games that I know about, or at least that I've heard about this 47, I played some of 6. 7-8 so like half the series, the other half I have no knowledge of.

So say with three, yeah, you play as Jill, she's going through Raccoon City and you're trying to escape. She was put on kind of like a suspension from the RPD, which you find out later that, you know, the, the chief of the RPD is kind of an asshole. He just a lot of a lot of fuck shit that happened. And they were trying to cover things up about what happened with the the mansion incident, which was the first game. They're trying to cover things up. So nobody knew what was going on, which I'm going to reference this now with RE-9.

We're going to find out about the cover up that they did. It didn't completely get rid of Raccoon City, it just got rid of a portion of it, which was probably the underground lab of Umbrella. So that's kind of makes sense. So we'll see where that goes. But but now that's real close to these games. They're just fun. Yeah. You know, and like I said, growing up with these with my uncle, I mean, you know, sentimental value and whatnot.

Something that you just cherish and you hold dear to you. Yeah, makes it one of your favorite horror games. Yeah, it's it's, and they're just good games in general, you know, And yeah, we've got some that are oh God, you just look at you barf. Looking at you, Survivor.

What the hell are they smoking? But yeah, that's a good old Resident Evil for you. Which one of y'all? Did you want to go first? Oh, I can go first. I can. I can. Gosh, all day about Dead Space. Great game. Just Dead Space and the remake. Oh good. Just a master class of cosmic horror and video games. Let me tell you that just the way that the story is written to the, the iconic character design for Isaac and the enemies and just the art design completely unique, just everything about the game, just I could go for days on end just just praising this game.

It was also my first foray into horror games too. Like this is the first true horror game that I played on my own as a little kid. And so I, I just have a huge attachment with the game in the series, except I never played two, but that's all. That's also because I, I, I didn't have the chance to play two. I was able to play 3 leader on in life because I was able to rent it from a library but. What do you think of three? Because I know a lot of people don't like. 3 It really is the black sheep of the family.

It's strange, really far away from the horror aspect and I, I, I just don't know why EA thought that they could take the IP and push it more towards an action adventure. What I, what I personally think happened, I'm going to have to look into it a little bit more. I think they were trying so hard to try to compete with like Uncharted series and and God of War, just those linear storytelling action series that really captivated a lot of people and they just wanted to change the formula. And then the multiplayer part was also so unnecessary 'cause then you get locked in with trying to find somebody to play with you to get the rest of the story, because it's locked behind the multiplayer aspect.

That's right, it is. Yeah, but so really you do not get the whole experience of the game from the single player mode? Yep, there are missions that are locked behind the multiplayer sections. I'm sorry, but what the fuck? Yeah. And mind you that it was just a really poorly implemented system. Yeah, sounds, sounds about sounds like it. Yeah, they EA just completely eroded away from the the survival horror aspect and not like I said, beat it into more of an action shooter. You could how the how the older games went was you find your weapons, you have your weapons permanently unlocked, but you can only carry 4 at a time.

Yep, that carried over into three. But what's different is that in one and two you had to mostly pick up your ammo from the world or you had to buy the ammo in the stop in in the shop. And it's very limited. It's very hard to come by and it's very stressful, especially because all the weapons had a specific role that they could fill. But it it's not a one-size-fits-all solution unless if you try to go for like the achievement runs like with the you only run with the plasma cutter throughout the entire game.

That's that's pretty much the only weapon that you can realistically use throughout the entire game, But it you're not going to have a fun time with it, it's going to be difficult. What happened in three was the introduced weapon crafting. You can buy weapon blueprints and you can spend my. If I remember correctly, you can spend microtransactions to actually upgrade your weapons as well. Yeah, I think there was something like that, but don't quote me on that. Yeah, I'd have to look back at it again.

Again, I was like Canada at a time when all this happened. Yeah, but yeah, no, they had like a really egregious microtransaction system. They it, it just completely over eroded a lot of the integrity of the game itself. The story was OK, I didn't really care for. Oh, it's the New Girl is the love interest, but she's also got this other boyfriend that you're dealing with as well. And all all of a sudden you have all the aliens, but you don't really see like alien necromorphs. It's just a human, different forms of human necromorphs.

The brother and moons aspect was interesting, but again that even with the DLC they just cut it off early and we're just left like nearly 20 years later with just a cliffhanger. So. Yeah, it kind of the more of the story is just play 1 and 2. Yeah, play one and two. Don't worry about 3. Don't worry about 3. If you need to know the story and just. Honestly you are perfectly fine playing with one and just leaving it there. Yeah. Because you you don't really even need to play 2 because two kind of is like the transition point where EA starts pushing the developers to move it towards a more mainstream appeal, right?

Yeah, which completely fucking killed it. Yeah, I mean, the the horror game market is a very niche market. You can't really stray too much from what works. Yep. Unless unless if you have like your own very unique twist on things. But it's so easy to do that wrong and to just completely evaporate the player base that you that you build in the industry. Yeah, so to play the remake of the 1st and. I I I I I argue the same that you said with Resident Evil 4. Play the play the original and play the remake.

Because again, they are essentially 2 separate games with very similar stories. Yep, the remake is gorgeous. It is it's it is so it. It is a beautifully horrifying game. And it runs on the steam bit and it. Really. Yeah, it runs on the Steam bit. It runs well. It's verified, yeah. Yeah, the remake, yeah, shit. It is great. It's yeah. The only gripe that I have with it is that the changes that they made to the story, they downplayed a lot of the involvement of the cult in it. But that's also because I think I, I think the why the original game had such a big cult aspect was because if I remember correctly, I think they were, they were kind of making fun of the Church of Scientology with a.

That's why. And then it just nowadays it's not really such a relevant thing anymore in terms of just pop culture side guys. You can see that you. Can see it. That makes sense. Yeah, but back in the day, it used to be like this really big thing where tons of actors and media producers were just terrified of of the of the church. You're trying to censor them and it just nowadays you couldn't really give two shits about them and they'll just kind of leave you alone. Yeah, it's a different time. Now, yeah, it's a far different time.

I I think what they did was just focused more on just the pure horror aspects. Yes. And honestly, I, I can't complain. They did an excellent job with that. And what's funny is talking about this, the VR port, or I shouldn't even say port, but the VR version of Resident Evil 4 on the Oculus, you know, they removed some stuff from it. Really. So one of the big things they removed was a cutscene of when you go to this, you go to the cabin. This is before you fight, like the Bell sisters. And yeah, so the cabin, there is an exchange between Louise and Ashley.

And Louise says like something about Ashley's breasts. Yeah. They completely cut that out. Oh wow. Like it is so bad that you know, and I mean whatever, you know. I understand the change of times, yeah. But it was kind of like, why, why does this is a mature game? Yeah, Like, you know, I don't get it, but it's it's whatever, you know, And then there's something else that they removed, but I can't remember off the top of my head what it is, but. It's just like those little minor changes that, yeah.

It's just a little minor changes, but I'm just like, why? But we're talking about a game from 2005. Things were different back then. Things were just so much different. So, you know, whatever, the fact that the game even exists on a fucking Oculus that you can play, you know, like it's the full game, Yeah, you know, mercenaries and all, and God, it feels good to fucking play it like that. Oh my God, dude, the aiming is so good, it's insane. But yeah, Dead Space. Yeah, that's, that's, that's space good.

That's space so good. Give Dead Space a try you loved. Yeah, Dead Space. Good. Dead Space, yeah. So the. The, the, the way that they changed the zero gravity section of the remake, Oh, it's so much better because they did the zero gravity system from 2. So like in the original, you would just awkwardly leap from platform to platform and then you would have, you couldn't do anything while you're in the air. You're just kind of floating there helplessly. You couldn't shoot, you couldn't do anything, you couldn't heal.

You're just awkwardly traveling across the room and then the camera angle will just snap to place at the orientation. It was so fucking bad. Oh, it was so bad. Sounds like this. Oh. My God. It's a lot better. And it's a lot better. And because of it, they also opened up a lot more areas for you to explore and go to. Yeah, it's a lot better now. Dear fucking God she sucked. And nothing was worse than doing the zero graph basketball with that system. God. When, when you say, what were they thinking?

I mean, I mean, it's something new that they were implementing a lot of a lot of this tech was just being developed at the time. Yeah. So it's. Like like the 2000s were really big golden age for a lot of just new mechanics for for video games that are being created. For better or for worse, for. Better or for worse? So, yeah, I mean, that's, that's fine. They they were experimenting, you know. Yeah, at least they were experimenting. Nowadays, nobody experiments. It's just the same shit. Yeah. That's because it's a business model.

We play it safe. And so it's like. Fuck off. Taking risks because that's how you pass, it's like. Do something else. That's why I like indie games. Again, another episode, we can talk about this stuff another week, but right now just good old horror games. What about you Ethan? What do you got? That's not my name. Oh, I'm sorry. Other guy OK, all right, cool. I'm glad you. I'm glad you just. Go ahead, fuck my joke. Well, I'm glad you have it too. Just going, oh, I'm going to beat you. Wow, we're not now at night night all y'all heard this It's.

Violence is heated. Things are getting wild. I kind of use House.

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Anyway, what about you? OK so I don't like horror and I pussy. I'm not the biggest fan of AAA games. That's fair. I, I like my Indies and I like my fun not being scared, but I actually do have a horror game that I Love Actually, and I've kind of talked this about this before, it's called Monstrum. The there really is no story. There's kind of notes you can read to piece together what kind of happened. And there's people like Pete or, you know, Jeff from the engine Bay or some random girl or something like that on this boat, like big giant cargo ship.

And for some reason you are the last person left on this cargo ship at night and there's a monster coming after you. This the map isn't randomly generated. Well, kind of.

What would you say the objects in it are randomly placed? Yes, yeah. The map is also kind of randomly set up, kind of not. There's really distinct areas. OK. So you can start off in kind of, I think it's the upper front of the ship we're kind of in like the living quarters and all that, kind of where you have beds, there's a kitchen, there's toilets, all that kind of stuff over there. It's has wooden walls and wooden doors and all that kind of stuff, all adorned. And you can wake up there behind.

You're always behind a locker with an open door. And once you go outside of that, you're in a room. And then once you go outside of that room where you can no longer see the locker, no matter what, that locker door will always close. And you can't go. I mean, just the starting room. Whatever. Yeah, doesn't really matter. Whatever is behind that locker door, it's kind of just a place for you to really mess with the key bindings and figure out how the game works. Yeah. But after that, you're in a room with a flash, with a flashlight, you can pick up a fuse you can pick up and a note.

So you can kind of get start, get a, get a, get a base of where you're going. But there's also, I think you can start off in the back of the ship where it's more like it's, it's all metal. Yeah. It's. It's got like the engine base and the mechanics and whatnot. Kind of, yeah. We're going on to the areas, like I said, there's kind of the living quarters where it's kind of wooden, wooden doors or whatever. I wouldn't say cabins, but kinda yeah, it just.

Just where people live. Pretty much it's the most lively place in this entire ship. You go down below, I think there's like 5 floors. I think 3 below is where it starts to become more mechanical and all that where you're inside the hall. And at this point you have long hallways that go across the entire ship. You have some doors that go through the ship which leads to the cargo. I'll get to that later. But as you go down these long hallways, you have steam vents which can kill you because it's hot steam.

This is one of the few dangers on the ship actually. And you there are valves right next to these old busted open pipes where you can shut off the steam, but there's like seven of these across the entire hall. Oh God. So if the monster's chasing after you, you kind of got to plan ahead and turn those off or just gun it and hope you can make it. But then you go to the back of the ship this is and you go up, you kind of hit more metal, and I wouldn't say hull, but more metal. It's again, distinct, not pipes or machinery, just metal I would say, and whatnot.

Nothing really else of note. There's kind of different lighting, like there's lights across the floor about the hallway instead of on the top where a light bulb would be. And then once you're at, once you're at the back of the ship, it's kind of just, once you're up on the deck, it's kind of just open. So you started off at the front, you went down below and all the way to the back, and now you're back up. So kind of going a loop around going to the center of the ship. There's a helipad 'cause there's a couple ways to escape the ship, and one of those is the helicopter.

Yeah, I think it's, I think it's the hardest one personally to escape on 'cause it requires I think the most items and one of them is also the smallest item in the game. So good luck. Trying to spot it, sometimes you'll walk right past it. That's fun. OK. Yeah, I'll get to that later. I I, I'm just going into detailing about this game 'cause there's not really much else I can talk about it. There's really no legacy or whatever to this game. There's no, it's just, there's yeah, it's just, it's just game only game.

And again, I'm not really big into horror, but you know, then you can once you leave this helipad, you can go back to the front of the ship. And once you're at the front, you can actually go up to the upper deck in the front and you can find the life raft. Or if you go all the way up, you can go into the captain's quarters and sometimes you can find items there, sometimes not whatever. And it's this, this game is basically cat and mouse with the with the monster. You can't really fight back and you got to just hide or stay away from it.

There's a couple tells of where the monster is and will be and around you.

But before that there is one more location I have to get to, which I believe is at the front end of the ship. I think you have to be on a specific level in order to even reach it, and it's the engine room. I think the engine room has three levels to it and there's probably 5-6, seven different rooms in there. So there could be a lot of stuff in this room that you just can't find it. But basically each area is kind of like a maze in a sense where there's winding holes, especially the first area explained, the wooden one, it can be winding holes with dead ends and you can just be in a room with a locker and if you, if you get chased in that room, you're going to have to hide in the locker.

Makes sense. Until the monster leaves.

Oh yeah. There's also the third way to escape, which is the submarine. It's down all the way at the bottom. Just bum fuck nowhere. And you just. There's just a broken submarine that you have to fix. But there's also a broken raft and an unfuelled helicopter. Yeah. OK, so those are the three ways to escape. But then there's also three of the different monsters. The first one is kind of the Paige monster. It's just this red giant glowing monster with big stompies. You'll hear him coming and his his eyes and face is just like a flash, a Searchlight.

You'll see. Yeah. So if, if you're, you know, literally if you're, if you're at an L bend corner, you're looking at the corner where the monsters coming down the hallway, but can't see you yet. You'll just see that red light just light, light up the the floor, then go up the wall and onto the then it'll turn at you and you just see the giant glowing face and you're I gotta run. I gotta go. I gotta run. Rice Holy. Fuck he he's he's the AI that I most know about. Yeah, because no matter where you go, even if you lose him, he will eventually rubber band back to you, OK?

Oh, that's creepy. Oh, so he has to be constantly on the move? Yes, yes, he will eventually. And I think he might even just teleport to you, not like to you, but around you, yes. Around your area that you're in. You could be a floor above, you could be a floor below. You could be on your floor close to you. Oh, that's weird. Yeah, 'cause there have been times where I'm in the back of the ship, I go all the way up the flight of stairs, go, you know, run down the long side of the ship, go up to the helipad, down the helipad, run, 'cause that's the halfway point, go to the front of the ship and then hide there for maybe a minute or so.

There's no other monster as we're in all the way across the ship into a minute and I already hear stomps. Yeah, that's. Makes sense. That's his tell. There's another monster which I think it's called the spirit or something. He's kind of a ghostly dude with purple aura. Basically you don't want to be in his line of sight. You can't hear him coming at all. He's the exact opposite. He's very silent. His tell is the lights. Whenever he's near, the lights will flash around you. It'll start to flicker and if he gets close enough he can kind of hear like a around you.

Yeah, Nope. He's got that CRTV feel. Yeah, but if if he sees you in your line of sight, then there will be like kind of a purple creep coming from the edge of your screen towards the center and then eventually you'll get stunned. I can't remember if it's insta kill. It's been, it's been a minute. But I think it stuns you and then you can get close. If not, if you're far enough away, you can kind of shake out of it after a bit and run away. But more often than not, if you get stuck at that point, you're dead.

Yeah.

OK. And then the third monster is the hunter. He's a clear blue liquid monster. You can see his internal organs and all that. It's really creepy. He makes a horrifying sound when he sees you or just around you and his. Each monster actually has different run music. Mm hmm. Or chase music. He's by far the worst cause all you hear is just in the as part of the music. Yeah it sucks ass. Geez, it's super loud in your ear. Oh God, I. Probably wouldn't just quit this. Sucks ass. I can show you guys this sucks ass.

Oh Jesus Christ I hate it like. I knew this in my life. He's also the worst monster to face. Yeah, by far, because he'll go through the vents. Yeah, yeah. He climbs through the vents and so he can just you'll just be walking down a hallway. You won't see him anywhere. Insight and then all of a sudden break open the vent. The the the grate will fall and he'll just come out of the vent right in front of you. He may not see you because it's he's looking the other way, but you just turn around. Crouch should be like, Nope, I'm getting out of here.

I'm going back the way I came. Well, I'm not allowed to go here anymore. I'm not playing this. The worst part is he sets up traps, like the kind of sensor traps that can be across the ground that can be on the wall. If you go, if you get close enough to them, he will be alerted and he will instantly teleport to them. Oh God. It. I no he sucks. What? Is his. He is the worst mechanic. He can go through the vents, appear anytime, anywhere, unlike the monster the first monster weeks, understandably.

So he can be right next to you at any point. Fine, he's not in your face right next to you. And then and then. He also has the worst chase music. I can tell what what form of horror this game is and it's abuse, Yeah. It's more of a puzzle, but each and as you're as you're looking around trying to flee from the monster, just evade it or whatever you, you do have some ways to fight back. Like there's a fire extinguisher. You can kind of spray the monster with the Stunnum for a little bit. There's a flare gun you can kind of find.

It's hard to, but you can find it. But there's also some other hazards like cameras. Cameras will be going back and forth when a 180° across these hallways. If they spot you, they'll start to warn you and you like the the shade you have to get out of line of sight. If not, they'll send out a large blaring sound and the monster will be instantly alerted to where you are. Oh, that's great. Yeah, but you can use duct tape to stop the cameras. OK. If you can find a duct tape, which actually is one of the key pieces for the raft, you got to use duct tape to patch the holes.

You got to find a chain so you can move the raft onto the water using this giant chin hook or whatever, and you also have to find an air pump to inflate the raft. Makes sense. OK. For the sub you need to find headlights so you you know you can see while driving. You need to find batteries, I think, or oxygen tanks, one of the two. You need to find a repair torch

and I think that's it. There might be one more. And then for the helicopter you need to find, I don't remember what they're called, but it's basically scissors that help break chains. I can't remember the name of it of chain. Cuts. Yeah, that, yeah. Or bolt cutters. Yeah, yeah, something like that. Yeah, that. That's my brain. Dumb. There it is. That's the. Word self-explanatory there. Yeah. So bolt cutters you need to find actually I think 2 gas cans.

Two gas cans I. Think so in order to feel this helicopter and then the smallest item which I hinted at earlier. Is it the keys? Yes, the helicopter keys. Oh, what? The fuck? One of the smallest possible things you could ever have. Fucking. Christ, so the easiest way to escape is the raft. The monster will not be alerted of your location. You get off sneakily. Maybe they might be able to hear the chain, I don't know, I've never had it happen. Or not the chain. The giant hook lift they used to get the raft in the water.

So you could lose just after beating the game is essential what you're telling me. Yes, because a lot of the time or in both the helicopter and the sub, the monster will be after you. OK. Makes sense. OK the raft. I have seen people lose once they got the raft in the water because there's fall damage and well, because you're on the upper part of the front half, there's a ledge you can fall down, so you think you're safe. So you fall down there where the raft is in the lower part of the front of the ship, You break your legs and you lose.

You have to go down the stairs. Oh what? What a way to lose. That would suck. It gets so far just. So far you're at the very end and you just die because apparently there's fall, David. Just bust your legs. Man. God. Fuck that sucks. Oh, that is. Awful. I've seen it happen. I'm like every every time. Just they didn't know. I mean, how are you going to know? There's no other way to know that, even going through the cargo crates, Yeah, you can climb up and down the cargo crates and you can 'cause they're all blown open for some reason in a random maze like whatever, but you're not going to fall down to layers of cargo crates, Bricket legs, 'cause that's just not going to happen.

Yeah. Yeah. But then right at the end of the gate, when you're about to skip the raft, that's just a. Smack of a face. There's no guardrail to keep you from falling down, so why not? Why not? It's like they were just intentionally like, hey, come this way. I would, I would uninstall the game. I'd be. Mad like no, fuck that. No. But yeah, for the submarine, once you get everything ready, you have to start the initiation process and there's a cart you have to use. There's 3 doors, 1 N, 1 W and 1 E, and depending on the monster, similar, whatever.

There's vents as well, 1 N, 1 W, 1 E, blah blah blah. But depending on the monster, they either come through the door. So the big guy or the Wraith, that's it. That's the rate. The purple one. Or if it's the hunt or the vent, you'll hear which door they're coming to. So you have to block the door. Or if it's the hunter, he's going to come down the vents and you'll see like particles coming off the vents. You don't have to block the vent gate door. And then? He'll climb back up, so depending on the monster, they're close by.

You just have to know which door they're coming at, block it in time before they fuck off to another door, and repeat the process until it's done. Yeah, but eventually you'll have to abandon the cart to escape through the submarine, which is just a single click, but you can still die at the end. And then the helicopter, you have steam vents that you can't turn off, but you can change which direction because there's four staircases, one at the front or two at the front, two at the back, but there's also two on the left, two on the right.

So math, you know, bottom right, bottom left, top right, top left. And you kind of use that to keep the monster off of you because the monster will want to come up those stairs and depending which direction they're coming from, you want to turn the you want to turn the steam to the left or the right to stop them. And then once they see that the steam is coming down the stairs that they're trying to get up, they'll fuck off to a new direction.

But once the refueling of the helicopter's done, you can just get in and go. But that's that's pretty much the game. You just got to run around and find stuff. And it's honestly cool because I did say that there was a fuse at the beginning. You can use a fuse to put in a fuse box and light up a section. And certain areas have power doors, and behind those power doors there's just about a guaranteed item you need for one of those 3 exits. Yeah. That's interesting. And you can find multiple fuses but I think the must have found was 2.

But there's way more than two power doors. And you can't retrieve these fuses, they're just single use. No, yeah. They're just single use and you start off with one at the start. Once you get out of that locker and you walk into that first room, OK, But yeah, that's that's pretty much it. There's not much to the game. I mean, I find it fun. It's for me, it's more like a puzzle than anything. And just kind of how the different monsters indicate their tells of when they're around you is pretty cool to me.

Just how they interact with the world around them, I don't know. It's kind of long winded, but there's not much to talk about other than the game itself. Yeah, that's fair. Just short, sweet you? I'm not really sure, but sweet to the point, yeah. Well, we have time for one more. Take it away, Penny.

No. Oh. OK. Lethal company we can all talk about. It don't know that game. What is it about? What is about? He is truly the other guy so. I'm speaking for the audience today. I am the audience, entertain me. So Lethal Company is, Oh my God, a horror game? Who would have thought? Sorry, Player 4 speaking for player 4. Player 4.

So basically Lethal company is a a horror game where you go to abandoned locations to collect scrap for the company and you have a quota to me. And if you don't meet that quota, you buy it. Now there are different different different enemy types that you will see. Some of them I think are was it the Tulip snakes or yeah so on animates animants than any I don't think it they spawn anywhere else yeah. No, they do spawn on one of the map edamants they I think they spawn on. Artifice. That artifice.

Artifice is a what's desert ish, Eric? Well, vow. Maybe it's vow? I think they spawn. On Vow the forest planets. Yeah. I think they just spawn the most on. Edamants. Yeah. 'Cause there's different moons you can go to, and depending on the moons, certain enemies have more or less spawn rates, sometimes even outright 0.

Which I did find out which this. Actually this makes a lot of sense. I think it's Ren. The ghost girl is more likely to spawn there. Yeah. Even then it's only by a few percent. Yeah, I think it's like at most is 5%. She's not a very. I think it's a little higher than that with Wren I. Think it's certainly higher with the Brutal company mod. Oh my. God. Well, yes, yes, that that that is, that is. Brutal company, Anything can happen even I weren't disabling enemies. Or just spawn too many the. Fucking dogs.

You want some dogs indoors? That shit sucks dude. Oh my. Screw the dogs, the fucking old bird. Endorse. That was fucking fun. That was I tried to have a trash can lit as a shield but it didn't. Work. It didn't. There's no hope after we entered the building. He grabs you. I'm going to toast you now. So we entered the building we were and we're trying to figure out what noise that is. I do instantly. You could hear it in my voice, trying to figure. I'm like this. This is an enemy I've seen before, but if I haven't seen it often enough to know what it is, and then I see the old bird around the corner.

What? Not even the full, full old bird because half of it's cut off by the sea. And then I get fit through the tiny doorways. Yeah, that was bullshit. That was completely. Brutal company mod is really fun time if you really want to mess up your run. If you really want to suffer, it's just one night. You're just sitting there. Be like, you know, what's a good time? Masochism. Let's just say sometimes you can pick up land mines and sell them, and sometimes you can even do the same with the turrets.

And it's really funny when your turrets kill your friends because they're still active. That was really funny. Fucking. Turrets. You know what? It worked like a shot.

Jesus Christ. Now there's something I learned the the forest giants. OK, right. If you kill them, they if they land on you when they fall down, they kill you. Well, they are a giant, yeah.

Yeah, apparently that is a fucking thing. Did none do they? I didn't know they go back normally. I mean, yeah, you can. I think they have 15 health They're they have a lot of they're. They're not worth it. That's like what, 3 shotgun shots? Some. Maybe. Some again, it's just not worth it. I I found this out from someone named Tsunami Cat. She's AAV Tuber on Twitch. Yeah. And her one friend, Siri, literally, that's her name. That's funny. Well, not really her name, but her name online. Yeah. Yeah, She had the knife and the force giant was in front of the ship and she just was stabbing it.

Yeah. And it died and it fell on her and Sue was fucking dying, Dude, Shit was great. Just, you know, I'd always, you hear when someone died. Yeah, you know, and I'm like. Fuck, you can die for the most random shit in this game, stuff you would never expect. I I I reckon. Yeah, the fucking brick and your best friend. Jeez. God, man, when I hear I. Love hate relationship for the brick and then those know by own. Man, when I hear that girly scream echo out through the fucking halls of this abandoned location, this is beautiful.

Never expect such a girly scream from from big guy like me. And you see the bracket looking at you as it's dragging your body away. I just have the worst luck with it. Like we were dirty, we dunked away from from something else and then it just walks because you, you and you and Ethan just looked at it and it just walked back over to where I was hiding. It is turning and looked at me. Just stabbed my neck. I didn't even get a chance to just run away. I'm kind of curious what my nemesis is. I feel like it's pretty even for the most part across the board.

Yeah. Maybe. Coil head. Probably coil head and thumper for you honestly. And you know what? Probably Thumper. Yeah. Mine is the fucking coil head. Yeah, there was one time that like I was, you guys are somewhere else. I don't know where you were, but I was in the hallway by myself and there's a coil head I guess was behind me and I turn, you know, you hear that Ting? Yeah. It's head going like this, you know, and Jack said something to me right after, you know, as they get a coil head, I'm like, Oh yeah, I'm looking at them fucking Dick.

I fucking hate them because they're literally the weeping Willow. Yeah, that's that's what they are. Yeah. Weeping Angel. They are Weeping Angel like it's fucking sucks. There was there was one time where I was looking at a coil head. It was right next to me, right next to me. I was in the power power core room and there was somehow, I don't remember how it happened, but somehow I lost sight of it for like 1/10 of a second gone. I don't know where it went. It's that all of a sudden it was in front of you, even though I was the closest.

I swear they attracted me. I don't fucking understand why man. Like I what was it the one time it was me and Mark? I think you were dead. Probably I'm dead. I have these clips. And you were you were watching the one coil head you're trying to leave. Yes, I was dead. And then the there was another one that went towards me. I'm outside. I'm like, oh, there's one next to me and I'm looking at it and shit. And then something happened. I get killed. Mark gets killed. I think what happened double team game I. Think what happened was one of you 2 blocked each other's view.

I think I've blocked Brandon's view. And so one of the coil heads killed one of you, then it was just game over from there. Now there is one enemy that that's brand new that you haven't seen yet, the me and Mark have. Oh boy, I've seen clips of this enemy and I want to explore it further. Because don't. Don't tell me anything about it, don't tell me how it works when I see it, Don't, don't tell me. Just let me experience this monster 'cause I, if I'm being honest, you kind of ruined it with Ghost Go for me.

It's telling me to get out of the building the first time. Cuz you're like. I was like, oh, look, there's a there's a weird child over there. You're like, what are you talking about? I'm like over there. She disappeared. You're like, Ethan, get out of the building. Go. What? What? What's wrong? Go now. What do you mean I? Probably wouldn't have said anything but like, let's see how this plays. Out. I know that's what I was hoping for just. Knew that it was gonna go really badly as soon as. You never.

Yeah, actually, Yeah, we'll. Oh, I can't. Wait, don't tell me. I want to. I want to experience. OK, he's. Just a friend. Yeah, yeah, I won't. I won't tell him. You're spoiling stuff right now. Shut up. Oh boy, we need to play. But yeah, leave The company's a fun time. Yeah, it's fun with friends. Scary as shit on your own. Like it is. Definitely. Oh no, I've tried to play. I've tried to play it alone and I can't do more than one or two nights runs, whatever. Probably days. Days. Yeah, days it just at the time.

It gets like it's. Eerie. Yeah. It's quiet. It's too quiet. Yeah, alone and. Then the ambiance of being alone just gets to you like. It's it's different being alone with friends. Yeah, yes. But being truly alone? Oh God. Yeah, yeah, I that that's why What I'll do is I have a mod that just has all loop bugs. Oh yeah, you do, And. They're happy, you know, and they help me out and shit, but playing it in VR by yourself, No, no shit. OK, the only time I will play VR is when you're playing it with me.

Yeah, I. I don't care if I'm with friends, I am not playing VR alone. It's seeing the mask come after you. Oh that's a beast. That's fucked. I haven't seen the coil head yet, that I don't. Wanna. It's gonna fucking suck. I don't wanna it. Because you're gonna have that reflex to turn away. Yes. And you gotta find it. Yeah, oh God, it like holy fuck, dude. We definitely, definitely need the plane. Yes, we do. Oh yes. It's a lot of fun. It's just fucking scary shit. I mean the shit you and me have done in the VR, especially me have done in the VR.

You know, one time, yeah, we're doing some very questionable things, Marks just like this, you know? Well, I, I think that's our time for today, boys. Yeah, yeah. Like that's like that's it. I'm good. I'm good, OK. All right, not really a horror person. He's a baby. Yeah, yeah. Yep, I can't blame you. I can't blame you, man. All right, well, thank you everyone for listening to this episode. We hope you enjoyed and it is now safe to unplug. Bye everybody.

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