Favorite Horror Games

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His favorite horror games? Yeah.

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There's a reason why we're a video game channel and not a

movie channel. We should pivot.

Oh God no, I don't watch movie. I don't.

I don't either, but to each their own.

Movie quality has gone down in years.

That's why I don't watch movies. Yeah, honestly, the CGI kind of

takes me out of it. That's I like more practical.

Like around 2010. Ever since Davy Jones from

Pirates of the Caribbean, CGI has gone downhill.

Unless if you have like those really special works where

people actually give a fuck, it's just gone downhill.

Dude, I feel like every level, every level, we're a video game

cut podcast. Every movie should have like

Transformers one CGI. Yeah, that.

Was pretty good, but again, everybody.

Got cheap, especially the first time Optimus transformed.

Just seeing those millions of parts moving, it was kind of

sad. That was pretty cool, yeah.

And unfortunately they simplified it, but you know,

yeah, that's, that's what they do with series.

I mean I don't mind them simplifying it, just hate.

Handling the fact that we live in a world where CGI was better

in the past. Yeah.

Go on. Yeah.

We we relive in a world where Transformers 1 exists in the

same time period as the fucking Lilo and Stitch remake.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Because this is just fucking God awful what they did with that

movie. Anyway.

Like the video games? Well.

Eventually. Eventually.

I I have something on movies I like more practical effects.

Something is actually done in front of the camera or can be

kind of manipulated with the actors.

Have you seen some of the behind the scenes stuff that they did

for those smile movies? I have not.

Oh my God, it's impressive. One of my Co worker was I was

actually talking about that. Yeah, yeah.

How? It's literally only practical

effects. She said that the first one was

really creepy. Yeah.

And I am over here like, all right, never watching it.

Yeah, got it. Oh yeah, it's super fucking

creepy. Well, like, I like practical

effects. Just because of watching the

Angry Video Game Nerd movie, there was some CGI, obviously

things that you just couldn't do.

Yeah. But probably about 98% of the

movie was practical effects and seeing the behind the scenes of

how they did everything. All these models they built

right? Like, it's just cool 'cause like

James said, it's when you, when people see these practical

effects and kind of see, OK, that's how they did it.

It can actually sometimes bring these people into the filmmaking

world just to see like, you know, this is how we do things,

you know, get people intrigued in it.

It's yeah, it's cool. I, I don't know, it's cool.

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Brandon Reel is back in. We we didn't get back on the

rails like right now. So anyway, favorite horror?

Games. That is our topic.

So I guess I'll go first with this SO.

Meet us, Brandon. My lead.

Us back to the herd. Lead us to the land of milk and

honey. Other guy some.

So my first game here is Resident Evil, but more so

Resident Evil 4. Too easy to go next?

Nope. You're gonna sit there.

You're gonna sit there other. Guy generic answer wrong.

So this Resident Evil in general is my favorite horror game.

That's just how it is. So we, I originally did play

this when it came out with my uncle Chris.

He actually like bought it, came over to my house, right?

And we sat in my room, we were playing it and whatnot.

That game in particular has a lot of good memories because

with my Uncle Chris, unfortunately no longer with us,

that was our game. Yeah, that's what we played

probably like 99% of the time. Yeah, because he'd watched me

like over the summer, you know, when my parents have to work and

whatnot or take me to school. Yeah, it's just something you

guys did a lot as a best time. Yeah, it was.

It's it's kind of nice having all those memories with it

because when he did pass it was hard to play it.

Yeah, obviously I can see why. It was, it was hard and I didn't

touch it for probably a couple years.

I'm being honest, it was it was a little while.

When you have that much sentimentality wrapped into it,

it's gonna be a difficult thing to move forward.

Yeah, because I mean, whenever I see this game or see Leon on

Uncle, Yeah, right there, that's just.

Even with all the memes that my wife and I send you.

It's so memeable though. That's the thing man.

The memes are great because I still have his original copy of

Resident Wolf One in the GameCube.

Yeah. With like inside the case is

actually we, we used to kind of see who's better at getting a

high score with one of the characters in the mercenaries

mode, which is basically just kill enemies trying to you know,

and my uncle actually wrote down, I think it was either

Krauser or Wesker on one of the levels he wrote down like what

what score he got. So I have a piece of them there.

You know, his handwriting was great.

Better than my chicken scratch. Can't fucking see anything when

I you can't read my shit, man. It's bad.

It's really bad. It's just chicken scratch.

Mine is scribbles. I I got that.

Weird half print, half cursive depending on what combination of

letters I'm writing. Here's the thing.

I print outside the lens and there are no lines.

I print outside of the lines on my plain printer paper.

This is why you're the other guy.

Good. But yeah, no, it's Rosio 4, like

I said, is very close to me and this is the original game that

yeah, the. Remake.

Yeah, the remake is fucking great too.

But you you just have that more sentimentality with.

With the original, yeah. And it's, I mean, it also

revolutionized a lot of like the over the shoulder cameras and

stuff like that. Even though Capcom does milk it,

I can tell you that. But.

You pulled her punching ass. No way.

I died when he fucking said that the first time.

When I heard that, I'm like, Oh my God, we're recalling fucking

five. Shit, OK.

I put some 5 in my foot. Like fucking Christ.

But it's, and there's a a lot of people who love RE4.

There's like a whole like the whole community is.

It's a lot bigger than I thought it was.

Oh God. Yeah, like, Oh yeah.

And I mean even the fact that they have a a full HD mod for it

that was painstakingly made that upgrades all textures, all

character models, everything to modern day graphics.

That's pretty damn cool. And there's even a, it's called

the HD Project. It's fucking huge.

It's like 30 gigs. It's a.

Whole new game right there. Yeah, so you're adding it on to

a game that's like 8 gigs, not ten, something like that.

Something that can fit into ACD real easily.

It's into something that can't. Yeah.

It was interesting is I I found out with that HD mod they added

a like a location after you. I think it's chapter 222 I think

or 2/3. You have to choose a path if

you're going to fight the LG Dante, which is the huge giant,

or the Bella Sisters, which are two ladies of chainsaws.

Oh. Von.

Yes, God, they're full. So if if you go with the Bella

sisters, after you kill them and whatnot and progress through

that area, there is a like a wooden door that you can go

through. And this is in the original

game. This like wooden door in this

like area, but what's not in the main game is there's this little

area looks like it's blocked off, like you couldn't actually

get into it. Well, with the HD mod, the

developers, they let you jump over this like little area and

there's a door that leads you to a different area that's

completely new that has like writing on the walls.

That's like you can use like a translator because it goes from

Spanish to English. And he can also pick up a

silencer for the handgun, which is not normally obtainable in

the main game. It's only seen in the

mercenaries mode when he plays Wesker because he has it on his

gun. So it was kind of interesting.

Like I, I was like floored. I'm like, holy shit, like, what

the fuck? You know, because I'm like

thinking about this and I'm like, was this in the main game?

This doesn't feel like this was in the main game.

And lo and behold, yeah, it's the HD project.

They specifically made that area.

That's pretty cool, though, yeah, That's the thing that they

can add on to new areas of the game, yeah.

Like that's cool. Even then there have been like

remakes or re releases or whatever where they do kind of

boost an area or you know, yeah, and they add a little something

here and there to the game. Yeah, no, I.

Not very often, but it does happen.

It it does, and I mean, I I definitely do appreciate that

they've just Capcom in general has re released Residentville 4

so much like on just your consoles?

Yeah, because it it is a game that has such a huge legacy and

it's just crazy to think about it.

Yeah, really. Like.

Where where things are now, right?

Seeing where they came from. And with having a remake for the

game, which funny enough, a lot of people, you know, say like,

well, since we have the remake, why?

Why play the original anymore? It's because they're two

different games. They're not the same.

Oh yeah. The the story is the same, there

is some differences but gameplay wise different.

Both games have something to offer and I'd say to anybody,

play the original before you play the remake.

Yeah. Right, just one so you can.

Understand where it's coming. From you enjoy the the

references that it might throw in.

Yeah. But it's just great.

I really do enjoy it. You know, this is actually a

question that I've been meaning to ask you.

Not exactly related, but it is. It's not going to be related to

the thing. I heard somewhere that I guess

the original Devil May Cry was supposed to be a Resident Evil

game. Do you know anything about this?

So it's. So I think it's actually the

reverse. So yes, I have heard of this.

So when they were developing Resident Evil 4, what we saw

with Devil May Cry is kind of what Resident Evil 4 was going

to be, but it just it strayed off from what Resident Evil is

that Capcom didn't know like OK, do we do we make this Resident

Evil 4 or do we just scrap it, get rid of it?

What not? And they in turn made a new game

out of it. So developing resin will four

made a new IP? Shit.

Because that's cool. RE4 went through a lot of

different builds before settling on what we have now.

Because you had one where Leon's infected with a this like that

was like some kind of like, shadow or whatnot that got

scrapped because the the GameCube couldn't handle

rendering that. Yeah, that fog or whatever.

OK, who's too much for it to handle.

Then you had another build that was going to be more of a

psychological horror game, OK, where Leon is again infected and

is starting to notice hallucinations happening.

And one of those in particular is the Hook Man, which was an

enemy that had really a hook. Yeah, that would like come out

of paintings or some shit. And then I think after that is

when they decided, OK, this is what Rezi before is going to be

and this is what we have now. It I said it went through a lot.

It kind of went through a lot like RE2RE2 went through many

different builds to the point of they had a build that was pretty

much almost complete and they scrapped it because it it was

not what they wanted. It didn't feel like a true

successor to the original game, to the original game.

So that's what's dubbed Resident Evil 1.5, which you can actually

obtain and play it now again, it's not finished.

You know, it's it's all fucked up.

Yeah, but. You can see the ideas that they

were going with. Yes, 'cause we didn't have Leon

was already a thing. Yeah, he, his story was a little

different. He was again, a cop, but he was

with I think the RPD for like a few months to a year or

something. So he, he was already there

instead of what we got where he, it's his first day.

Claire was not a thing. Instead it was Elsa Walker,

which funny enough they Capcom referenced that with a costume

for Claire in the RET you make. Oh, that's funny.

So you get the head that the costume that they that Elsa

wore. Oh.

Like it, it was. It's interesting with the back

story of a lot of those games. Like RE 3 was not meant to be a

mainline title, it was supposed to be a side title.

Honestly, I'd barely know anything about residual 3.

It's to be fair. So it's basically you play as

Jill. This is going like the the game

is going through between like 2 and three it.

It's fucking weird. 'Cause like the games that I

know about, or at least that I've heard about this 47, I

played some of 6. 7-8 so like half the series, the other half

I have no knowledge of. So say with three, yeah, you

play as Jill, she's going through Raccoon City and you're

trying to escape. She was put on kind of like a

suspension from the RPD, which you find out later that, you

know, the, the chief of the RPD is kind of an asshole.

He just a lot of a lot of fuck shit that happened.

And they were trying to cover things up about what happened

with the the mansion incident, which was the first game.

They're trying to cover things up.

So nobody knew what was going on, which I'm going to reference

this now with RE-9. We're going to find out about

the cover up that they did. It didn't completely get rid of

Raccoon City, it just got rid of a portion of it, which was

probably the underground lab of Umbrella.

So that's kind of makes sense. So we'll see where that goes.

But but now that's real close to these games.

They're just fun. Yeah.

You know, and like I said, growing up with these with my

uncle, I mean, you know, sentimental value and whatnot.

Something that you just cherish and you hold dear to you.

Yeah, makes it one of your favorite horror games.

Yeah, it's it's, and they're just good games in general, you

know, And yeah, we've got some that are oh God, you just look

at you barf. Looking at you, Survivor.

What the hell are they smoking? But yeah, that's a good old

Resident Evil for you. Which one of y'all?

Did you want to go first? Oh, I can go first.

I can. I can.

Gosh, all day about Dead Space. Great game.

Just Dead Space and the remake. Oh good.

Just a master class of cosmic horror and video games.

Let me tell you that just the way that the story is written to

the, the iconic character design for Isaac and the enemies and

just the art design completely unique, just everything about

the game, just I could go for days on end just just praising

this game. It was also my first foray into

horror games too. Like this is the first true

horror game that I played on my own as a little kid.

And so I, I just have a huge attachment with the game in the

series, except I never played two, but that's all.

That's also because I, I, I didn't have the chance to play

two. I was able to play 3 leader on

in life because I was able to rent it from a library but.

What do you think of three? Because I know a lot of people

don't like. 3 It really is the black sheep of the family.

It's strange, really far away from the horror aspect and I, I,

I just don't know why EA thought that they could take the IP and

push it more towards an action adventure.

What I, what I personally think happened, I'm going to have to

look into it a little bit more. I think they were trying so hard

to try to compete with like Uncharted series and and God of

War, just those linear storytelling action series that

really captivated a lot of people and they just wanted to

change the formula. And then the multiplayer part

was also so unnecessary 'cause then you get locked in with

trying to find somebody to play with you to get the rest of the

story, because it's locked behind the multiplayer aspect.

That's right, it is. Yeah, but so really you do not

get the whole experience of the game from the single player

mode? Yep, there are missions that are

locked behind the multiplayer sections.

I'm sorry, but what the fuck? Yeah.

And mind you that it was just a really poorly implemented

system. Yeah, sounds, sounds about

sounds like it. Yeah, they EA just completely

eroded away from the the survival horror aspect and not

like I said, beat it into more of an action shooter.

You could how the how the older games went was you find your

weapons, you have your weapons permanently unlocked, but you

can only carry 4 at a time. Yep, that carried over into

three. But what's different is that in

one and two you had to mostly pick up your ammo from the world

or you had to buy the ammo in the stop in in the shop.

And it's very limited. It's very hard to come by and

it's very stressful, especially because all the weapons had a

specific role that they could fill.

But it it's not a one-size-fits-all solution

unless if you try to go for like the achievement runs like with

the you only run with the plasma cutter throughout the entire

game. That's that's pretty much the

only weapon that you can realistically use throughout the

entire game, But it you're not going to have a fun time with

it, it's going to be difficult. What happened in three was the

introduced weapon crafting. You can buy weapon blueprints

and you can spend my. If I remember correctly, you can

spend microtransactions to actually upgrade your weapons as

well. Yeah, I think there was

something like that, but don't quote me on that.

Yeah, I'd have to look back at it again.

Again, I was like Canada at a time when all this happened.

Yeah, but yeah, no, they had like a really egregious

microtransaction system. They it, it just completely over

eroded a lot of the integrity of the game itself.

The story was OK, I didn't really care for.

Oh, it's the New Girl is the love interest, but she's also

got this other boyfriend that you're dealing with as well.

And all all of a sudden you have all the aliens, but you don't

really see like alien necromorphs.

It's just a human, different forms of human necromorphs.

The brother and moons aspect was interesting, but again that even

with the DLC they just cut it off early and we're just left

like nearly 20 years later with just a cliffhanger.

So. Yeah, it kind of the more of the

story is just play 1 and 2. Yeah, play one and two.

Don't worry about 3. Don't worry about 3.

If you need to know the story and just.

Honestly you are perfectly fine playing with one and just

leaving it there. Yeah.

Because you you don't really even need to play 2 because two

kind of is like the transition point where EA starts pushing

the developers to move it towards a more mainstream

appeal, right? Yeah, which completely fucking

killed it. Yeah, I mean, the the horror

game market is a very niche market.

You can't really stray too much from what works.

Yep. Unless unless if you have like

your own very unique twist on things.

But it's so easy to do that wrong and to just completely

evaporate the player base that you that you build in the

industry. Yeah, so to play the remake of

the 1st and. I I I I I argue the same that

you said with Resident Evil 4. Play the play the original and

play the remake. Because again, they are

essentially 2 separate games with very similar stories.

Yep, the remake is gorgeous. It is it's it is so it.

It is a beautifully horrifying game.

And it runs on the steam bit and it.

Really. Yeah, it runs on the Steam bit.

It runs well. It's verified, yeah.

Yeah, the remake, yeah, shit. It is great.

It's yeah. The only gripe that I have with

it is that the changes that they made to the story, they

downplayed a lot of the involvement of the cult in it.

But that's also because I think I, I think the why the original

game had such a big cult aspect was because if I remember

correctly, I think they were, they were kind of making fun of

the Church of Scientology with a.

That's why. And then it just nowadays it's

not really such a relevant thing anymore in terms of just pop

culture side guys. You can see that you.

Can see it. That makes sense.

Yeah, but back in the day, it used to be like this really big

thing where tons of actors and media producers were just

terrified of of the of the church.

You're trying to censor them and it just nowadays you couldn't

really give two shits about them and they'll just kind of leave

you alone. Yeah, it's a different time.

Now, yeah, it's a far different time.

I I think what they did was just focused more on just the pure

horror aspects. Yes.

And honestly, I, I can't complain.

They did an excellent job with that.

And what's funny is talking about this, the VR port, or I

shouldn't even say port, but the VR version of Resident Evil 4 on

the Oculus, you know, they removed some stuff from it.

Really. So one of the big things they

removed was a cutscene of when you go to this, you go to the

cabin. This is before you fight, like

the Bell sisters. And yeah, so the cabin, there is

an exchange between Louise and Ashley.

And Louise says like something about Ashley's breasts.

Yeah. They completely cut that out.

Oh wow. Like it is so bad that you know,

and I mean whatever, you know. I understand the change of

times, yeah. But it was kind of like, why,

why does this is a mature game? Yeah, Like, you know, I don't

get it, but it's it's whatever, you know, And then there's

something else that they removed, but I can't remember

off the top of my head what it is, but.

It's just like those little minor changes that, yeah.

It's just a little minor changes, but I'm just like, why?

But we're talking about a game from 2005.

Things were different back then. Things were just so much

different. So, you know, whatever, the fact

that the game even exists on a fucking Oculus that you can

play, you know, like it's the full game, Yeah, you know,

mercenaries and all, and God, it feels good to fucking play it

like that. Oh my God, dude, the aiming is

so good, it's insane. But yeah, Dead Space.

Yeah, that's, that's, that's space good.

That's space so good. Give Dead Space a try you loved.

Yeah, Dead Space. Good.

Dead Space, yeah. So the.

The, the, the way that they changed the zero gravity section

of the remake, Oh, it's so much better because they did the zero

gravity system from 2. So like in the original, you

would just awkwardly leap from platform to platform and then

you would have, you couldn't do anything while you're in the

air. You're just kind of floating

there helplessly. You couldn't shoot, you couldn't

do anything, you couldn't heal. You're just awkwardly traveling

across the room and then the camera angle will just snap to

place at the orientation. It was so fucking bad.

Oh, it was so bad. Sounds like this.

Oh. My God.

It's a lot better. And it's a lot better.

And because of it, they also opened up a lot more areas for

you to explore and go to. Yeah, it's a lot better now.

Dear fucking God she sucked. And nothing was worse than doing

the zero graph basketball with that system.

God. When, when you say, what were

they thinking? I mean, I mean, it's something

new that they were implementing a lot of a lot of this tech was

just being developed at the time.

Yeah. So it's.

Like like the 2000s were really big golden age for a lot of just

new mechanics for for video games that are being created.

For better or for worse, for. Better or for worse?

So, yeah, I mean, that's, that's fine.

They they were experimenting, you know.

Yeah, at least they were experimenting.

Nowadays, nobody experiments. It's just the same shit.

Yeah. That's because it's a business

model. We play it safe.

And so it's like. Fuck off.

Taking risks because that's how you pass, it's like.

Do something else. That's why I like indie games.

Again, another episode, we can talk about this stuff another

week, but right now just good old horror games.

What about you Ethan? What do you got?

That's not my name. Oh, I'm sorry.

Other guy OK, all right, cool. I'm glad you.

I'm glad you just. Go ahead, fuck my joke.

Well, I'm glad you have it too. Just going, oh, I'm going to

beat you. Wow, we're not now at night

night all y'all heard this It's. Violence is heated.

Things are getting wild. I kind of use House.

Fucking. Jesus.

Anyway, what about you? OK so I don't like horror and I

pussy. I'm not the biggest fan of AAA

games. That's fair.

I, I like my Indies and I like my fun not being scared, but I

actually do have a horror game that I Love Actually, and I've

kind of talked this about this before, it's called Monstrum.

The there really is no story. There's kind of notes you can

read to piece together what kind of happened.

And there's people like Pete or, you know, Jeff from the engine

Bay or some random girl or something like that on this

boat, like big giant cargo ship. And for some reason you are the

last person left on this cargo ship at night and there's a

monster coming after you. This the map isn't randomly

generated. Well, kind of.

What would you say the objects in it are randomly placed?

Yes, yeah. The map is also kind of randomly

set up, kind of not. There's really distinct areas.

OK. So you can start off in kind of,

I think it's the upper front of the ship we're kind of in like

the living quarters and all that, kind of where you have

beds, there's a kitchen, there's toilets, all that kind of stuff

over there. It's has wooden walls and wooden

doors and all that kind of stuff, all adorned.

And you can wake up there behind.

You're always behind a locker with an open door.

And once you go outside of that, you're in a room.

And then once you go outside of that room where you can no

longer see the locker, no matter what, that locker door will

always close. And you can't go.

I mean, just the starting room. Whatever.

Yeah, doesn't really matter. Whatever is behind that locker

door, it's kind of just a place for you to really mess with the

key bindings and figure out how the game works.

Yeah. But after that, you're in a room

with a flash, with a flashlight, you can pick up a fuse you can

pick up and a note. So you can kind of get start,

get a, get a, get a base of where you're going.

But there's also, I think you can start off in the back of the

ship where it's more like it's, it's all metal.

Yeah. It's.

It's got like the engine base and the mechanics and whatnot.

Kind of, yeah. We're going on to the areas,

like I said, there's kind of the living quarters where it's kind

of wooden, wooden doors or whatever.

I wouldn't say cabins, but kinda yeah, it just.

Just where people live. Pretty much it's the most lively

place in this entire ship. You go down below, I think

there's like 5 floors. I think 3 below is where it

starts to become more mechanical and all that where you're inside

the hall. And at this point you have long

hallways that go across the entire ship.

You have some doors that go through the ship which leads to

the cargo. I'll get to that later.

But as you go down these long hallways, you have steam vents

which can kill you because it's hot steam.

This is one of the few dangers on the ship actually.

And you there are valves right next to these old busted open

pipes where you can shut off the steam, but there's like seven of

these across the entire hall. Oh God.

So if the monster's chasing after you, you kind of got to

plan ahead and turn those off or just gun it and hope you can

make it. But then you go to the back of

the ship this is and you go up, you kind of hit more metal, and

I wouldn't say hull, but more metal.

It's again, distinct, not pipes or machinery, just metal I would

say, and whatnot. Nothing really else of note.

There's kind of different lighting, like there's lights

across the floor about the hallway instead of on the top

where a light bulb would be. And then once you're at, once

you're at the back of the ship, it's kind of just, once you're

up on the deck, it's kind of just open.

So you started off at the front, you went down below and all the

way to the back, and now you're back up.

So kind of going a loop around going to the center of the ship.

There's a helipad 'cause there's a couple ways to escape the

ship, and one of those is the helicopter.

Yeah, I think it's, I think it's the hardest one personally to

escape on 'cause it requires I think the most items and one of

them is also the smallest item in the game.

So good luck. Trying to spot it, sometimes

you'll walk right past it. That's fun.

OK. Yeah, I'll get to that later.

I I, I'm just going into detailing about this game 'cause

there's not really much else I can talk about it.

There's really no legacy or whatever to this game.

There's no, it's just, there's yeah, it's just, it's just game

only game. And again, I'm not really big

into horror, but you know, then you can once you leave this

helipad, you can go back to the front of the ship.

And once you're at the front, you can actually go up to the

upper deck in the front and you can find the life raft.

Or if you go all the way up, you can go into the captain's

quarters and sometimes you can find items there, sometimes not

whatever. And it's this, this game is

basically cat and mouse with the with the monster.

You can't really fight back and you got to just hide or stay

away from it. There's a couple tells of where

the monster is and will be and around you.

But before that there is one more location I have to get to,

which I believe is at the front end of the ship.

I think you have to be on a specific level in order to even

reach it, and it's the engine room.

I think the engine room has three levels to it and there's

probably 5-6, seven different rooms in there.

So there could be a lot of stuff in this room that you just can't

find it. But basically each area is kind

of like a maze in a sense where there's winding holes,

especially the first area explained, the wooden one, it

can be winding holes with dead ends and you can just be in a

room with a locker and if you, if you get chased in that room,

you're going to have to hide in the locker.

Makes sense. Until the monster leaves.

Oh yeah. There's also the third way to

escape, which is the submarine. It's down all the way at the

bottom. Just bum fuck nowhere.

And you just. There's just a broken submarine

that you have to fix. But there's also a broken raft

and an unfuelled helicopter. Yeah.

OK, so those are the three ways to escape.

But then there's also three of the different monsters.

The first one is kind of the Paige monster.

It's just this red giant glowing monster with big stompies.

You'll hear him coming and his his eyes and face is just like a

flash, a Searchlight. You'll see.

Yeah. So if, if you're, you know,

literally if you're, if you're at an L bend corner, you're

looking at the corner where the monsters coming down the

hallway, but can't see you yet. You'll just see that red light

just light, light up the the floor, then go up the wall and

onto the then it'll turn at you and you just see the giant

glowing face and you're I gotta run.

I gotta go. I gotta run.

Rice Holy. Fuck he he's he's the AI that I

most know about. Yeah, because no matter where

you go, even if you lose him, he will eventually rubber band back

to you, OK? Oh, that's creepy.

Oh, so he has to be constantly on the move?

Yes, yes, he will eventually. And I think he might even just

teleport to you, not like to you, but around you, yes.

Around your area that you're in. You could be a floor above, you

could be a floor below. You could be on your floor close

to you. Oh, that's weird.

Yeah, 'cause there have been times where I'm in the back of

the ship, I go all the way up the flight of stairs, go, you

know, run down the long side of the ship, go up to the helipad,

down the helipad, run, 'cause that's the halfway point, go to

the front of the ship and then hide there for maybe a minute or

so. There's no other monster as

we're in all the way across the ship into a minute and I already

hear stomps. Yeah, that's.

Makes sense. That's his tell.

There's another monster which I think it's called the spirit or

something. He's kind of a ghostly dude with

purple aura. Basically you don't want to be

in his line of sight. You can't hear him coming at

all. He's the exact opposite.

He's very silent. His tell is the lights.

Whenever he's near, the lights will flash around you.

It'll start to flicker and if he gets close enough he can kind of

hear like a around you. Yeah, Nope.

He's got that CRTV feel. Yeah, but if if he sees you in

your line of sight, then there will be like kind of a purple

creep coming from the edge of your screen towards the center

and then eventually you'll get stunned.

I can't remember if it's insta kill.

It's been, it's been a minute. But I think it stuns you and

then you can get close. If not, if you're far enough

away, you can kind of shake out of it after a bit and run away.

But more often than not, if you get stuck at that point, you're

dead. Yeah.

OK. And then the third monster is

the hunter. He's a clear blue liquid

monster. You can see his internal organs

and all that. It's really creepy.

He makes a horrifying sound when he sees you or just around you

and his. Each monster actually has

different run music. Mm hmm.

Or chase music. He's by far the worst cause all

you hear is just in the as part of the music.

Yeah it sucks ass. Geez, it's super loud in your

ear. Oh God, I.

Probably wouldn't just quit this.

Sucks ass. I can show you guys this sucks

ass. Oh Jesus Christ I hate it like.

I knew this in my life. He's also the worst monster to

face. Yeah, by far, because he'll go

through the vents. Yeah, yeah.

He climbs through the vents and so he can just you'll just be

walking down a hallway. You won't see him anywhere.

Insight and then all of a sudden break open the vent.

The the the grate will fall and he'll just come out of the vent

right in front of you. He may not see you because it's

he's looking the other way, but you just turn around.

Crouch should be like, Nope, I'm getting out of here.

I'm going back the way I came. Well, I'm not allowed to go here

anymore. I'm not playing this.

The worst part is he sets up traps, like the kind of sensor

traps that can be across the ground that can be on the wall.

If you go, if you get close enough to them, he will be

alerted and he will instantly teleport to them.

Oh God. It.

I no he sucks. What?

Is his. He is the worst mechanic.

He can go through the vents, appear anytime, anywhere, unlike

the monster the first monster weeks, understandably.

So he can be right next to you at any point.

Fine, he's not in your face right next to you.

And then and then. He also has the worst chase

music. I can tell what what form of

horror this game is and it's abuse, Yeah.

It's more of a puzzle, but each and as you're as you're looking

around trying to flee from the monster, just evade it or

whatever you, you do have some ways to fight back.

Like there's a fire extinguisher.

You can kind of spray the monster with the Stunnum for a

little bit. There's a flare gun you can kind

of find. It's hard to, but you can find

it. But there's also some other

hazards like cameras. Cameras will be going back and

forth when a 180° across these hallways.

If they spot you, they'll start to warn you and you like the the

shade you have to get out of line of sight.

If not, they'll send out a large blaring sound and the monster

will be instantly alerted to where you are.

Oh, that's great. Yeah, but you can use duct tape

to stop the cameras. OK.

If you can find a duct tape, which actually is one of the key

pieces for the raft, you got to use duct tape to patch the

holes. You got to find a chain so you

can move the raft onto the water using this giant chin hook or

whatever, and you also have to find an air pump to inflate the

raft. Makes sense.

OK. For the sub you need to find

headlights so you you know you can see while driving.

You need to find batteries, I think, or oxygen tanks, one of

the two. You need to find a repair torch

and I think that's it. There might be one more.

And then for the helicopter you need to find, I don't remember

what they're called, but it's basically scissors that help

break chains. I can't remember the name of it

of chain. Cuts.

Yeah, that, yeah. Or bolt cutters.

Yeah, yeah, something like that. Yeah, that.

That's my brain. Dumb.

There it is. That's the.

Word self-explanatory there. Yeah.

So bolt cutters you need to find actually I think 2 gas cans.

Two gas cans I. Think so in order to feel this

helicopter and then the smallest item which I hinted at earlier.

Is it the keys? Yes, the helicopter keys.

Oh, what? The fuck?

One of the smallest possible things you could ever have.

Fucking. Christ, so the easiest way to

escape is the raft. The monster will not be alerted

of your location. You get off sneakily.

Maybe they might be able to hear the chain, I don't know, I've

never had it happen. Or not the chain.

The giant hook lift they used to get the raft in the water.

So you could lose just after beating the game is essential

what you're telling me. Yes, because a lot of the time

or in both the helicopter and the sub, the monster will be

after you. OK.

Makes sense. OK the raft.

I have seen people lose once they got the raft in the water

because there's fall damage and well, because you're on the

upper part of the front half, there's a ledge you can fall

down, so you think you're safe. So you fall down there where the

raft is in the lower part of the front of the ship, You break

your legs and you lose. You have to go down the stairs.

Oh what? What a way to lose.

That would suck. It gets so far just.

So far you're at the very end and you just die because

apparently there's fall, David. Just bust your legs.

Man. God.

Fuck that sucks. Oh, that is.

Awful. I've seen it happen.

I'm like every every time. Just they didn't know.

I mean, how are you going to know?

There's no other way to know that, even going through the

cargo crates, Yeah, you can climb up and down the cargo

crates and you can 'cause they're all blown open for some

reason in a random maze like whatever, but you're not going

to fall down to layers of cargo crates, Bricket legs, 'cause

that's just not going to happen. Yeah.

Yeah. But then right at the end of the

gate, when you're about to skip the raft, that's just a.

Smack of a face. There's no guardrail to keep you

from falling down, so why not? Why not?

It's like they were just intentionally like, hey, come

this way. I would, I would uninstall the

game. I'd be.

Mad like no, fuck that. No.

But yeah, for the submarine, once you get everything ready,

you have to start the initiation process and there's a cart you

have to use. There's 3 doors, 1 N, 1 W and 1

E, and depending on the monster, similar, whatever.

There's vents as well, 1 N, 1 W, 1 E, blah blah blah.

But depending on the monster, they either come through the

door. So the big guy or the Wraith,

that's it. That's the rate.

The purple one. Or if it's the hunt or the vent,

you'll hear which door they're coming to.

So you have to block the door. Or if it's the hunter, he's

going to come down the vents and you'll see like particles coming

off the vents. You don't have to block the vent

gate door. And then?

He'll climb back up, so depending on the monster,

they're close by. You just have to know which door

they're coming at, block it in time before they fuck off to

another door, and repeat the process until it's done.

Yeah, but eventually you'll have to abandon the cart to escape

through the submarine, which is just a single click, but you can

still die at the end. And then the helicopter, you

have steam vents that you can't turn off, but you can change

which direction because there's four staircases, one at the

front or two at the front, two at the back, but there's also

two on the left, two on the right.

So math, you know, bottom right, bottom left, top right, top

left. And you kind of use that to keep

the monster off of you because the monster will want to come up

those stairs and depending which direction they're coming from,

you want to turn the you want to turn the steam to the left or

the right to stop them. And then once they see that the

steam is coming down the stairs that they're trying to get up,

they'll fuck off to a new direction.

But once the refueling of the helicopter's done, you can just

get in and go. But that's that's pretty much

the game. You just got to run around and

find stuff. And it's honestly cool because I

did say that there was a fuse at the beginning.

You can use a fuse to put in a fuse box and light up a section.

And certain areas have power doors, and behind those power

doors there's just about a guaranteed item you need for one

of those 3 exits. Yeah.

That's interesting. And you can find multiple fuses

but I think the must have found was 2.

But there's way more than two power doors.

And you can't retrieve these fuses, they're just single use.

No, yeah. They're just single use and you

start off with one at the start. Once you get out of that locker

and you walk into that first room, OK, But yeah, that's

that's pretty much it. There's not much to the game.

I mean, I find it fun. It's for me, it's more like a

puzzle than anything. And just kind of how the

different monsters indicate their tells of when they're

around you is pretty cool to me. Just how they interact with the

world around them, I don't know. It's kind of long winded, but

there's not much to talk about other than the game itself.

Yeah, that's fair. Just short, sweet you?

I'm not really sure, but sweet to the point, yeah.

Well, we have time for one more. Take it away, Penny.

No. Oh.

OK. Lethal company we can all talk

about. It don't know that game.

What is it about? What is about?

He is truly the other guy so. I'm speaking for the audience

today. I am the audience, entertain me.

So Lethal Company is, Oh my God, a horror game?

Who would have thought? Sorry, Player 4 speaking for

player 4. Player 4.

So basically Lethal company is a a horror game where you go to

abandoned locations to collect scrap for the company and you

have a quota to me. And if you don't meet that

quota, you buy it. Now there are different

different different enemy types that you will see.

Some of them I think are was it the Tulip snakes or yeah so on

animates animants than any I don't think it they spawn

anywhere else yeah. No, they do spawn on one of the

map edamants they I think they spawn on.

Artifice. That artifice.

Artifice is a what's desert ish, Eric?

Well, vow. Maybe it's vow?

I think they spawn. On Vow the forest planets.

Yeah. I think they just spawn the most

on. Edamants.

Yeah. 'Cause there's different moons

you can go to, and depending on the moons, certain enemies have

more or less spawn rates, sometimes even outright 0.

Which I did find out which this. Actually this makes a lot of

sense. I think it's Ren.

The ghost girl is more likely to spawn there.

Yeah. Even then it's only by a few

percent. Yeah, I think it's like at most

is 5%. She's not a very.

I think it's a little higher than that with Wren I.

Think it's certainly higher with the Brutal company mod.

Oh my. God.

Well, yes, yes, that that that is, that is.

Brutal company, Anything can happen even I weren't disabling

enemies. Or just spawn too many the.

Fucking dogs. You want some dogs indoors?

That shit sucks dude. Oh my.

Screw the dogs, the fucking old bird.

Endorse. That was fucking fun.

That was I tried to have a trash can lit as a shield but it

didn't. Work.

It didn't. There's no hope after we entered

the building. He grabs you.

I'm going to toast you now. So we entered the building we

were and we're trying to figure out what noise that is.

I do instantly. You could hear it in my voice,

trying to figure. I'm like this.

This is an enemy I've seen before, but if I haven't seen it

often enough to know what it is, and then I see the old bird

around the corner. What?

Not even the full, full old bird because half of it's cut off by

the sea. And then I get fit through the

tiny doorways. Yeah, that was bullshit.

That was completely. Brutal company mod is really fun

time if you really want to mess up your run.

If you really want to suffer, it's just one night.

You're just sitting there. Be like, you know, what's a good

time? Masochism.

Let's just say sometimes you can pick up land mines and sell

them, and sometimes you can even do the same with the turrets.

And it's really funny when your turrets kill your friends

because they're still active. That was really funny.

Fucking. Turrets.

You know what? It worked like a shot.

Jesus Christ. Now there's something I learned

the the forest giants. OK, right.

If you kill them, they if they land on you when they fall down,

they kill you. Well, they are a giant, yeah.

Yeah, apparently that is a fucking thing.

Did none do they? I didn't know they go back

normally. I mean, yeah, you can.

I think they have 15 health They're they have a lot of

they're. They're not worth it.

That's like what, 3 shotgun shots?

Some. Maybe.

Some again, it's just not worth it.

I I found this out from someone named Tsunami Cat.

She's AAV Tuber on Twitch. Yeah.

And her one friend, Siri, literally, that's her name.

That's funny. Well, not really her name, but

her name online. Yeah.

Yeah, She had the knife and the force giant was in front of the

ship and she just was stabbing it.

Yeah. And it died and it fell on her

and Sue was fucking dying, Dude, Shit was great.

Just, you know, I'd always, you hear when someone died.

Yeah, you know, and I'm like. Fuck, you can die for the most

random shit in this game, stuff you would never expect.

I I I reckon. Yeah, the fucking brick and your

best friend. Jeez.

God, man, when I hear I. Love hate relationship for the

brick and then those know by own.

Man, when I hear that girly scream echo out through the

fucking halls of this abandoned location, this is beautiful.

Never expect such a girly scream from from big guy like me.

And you see the bracket looking at you as it's dragging your

body away. I just have the worst luck with

it. Like we were dirty, we dunked

away from from something else and then it just walks because

you, you and you and Ethan just looked at it and it just walked

back over to where I was hiding. It is turning and looked at me.

Just stabbed my neck. I didn't even get a chance to

just run away. I'm kind of curious what my

nemesis is. I feel like it's pretty even for

the most part across the board. Yeah.

Maybe. Coil head.

Probably coil head and thumper for you honestly.

And you know what? Probably Thumper.

Yeah. Mine is the fucking coil head.

Yeah, there was one time that like I was, you guys are

somewhere else. I don't know where you were, but

I was in the hallway by myself and there's a coil head I guess

was behind me and I turn, you know, you hear that Ting?

Yeah. It's head going like this, you

know, and Jack said something to me right after, you know, as

they get a coil head, I'm like, Oh yeah, I'm looking at them

fucking Dick. I fucking hate them because

they're literally the weeping Willow.

Yeah, that's that's what they are.

Yeah. Weeping Angel.

They are Weeping Angel like it's fucking sucks.

There was there was one time where I was looking at a coil

head. It was right next to me, right

next to me. I was in the power power core

room and there was somehow, I don't remember how it happened,

but somehow I lost sight of it for like 1/10 of a second gone.

I don't know where it went. It's that all of a sudden it was

in front of you, even though I was the closest.

I swear they attracted me. I don't fucking understand why

man. Like I what was it the one time

it was me and Mark? I think you were dead.

Probably I'm dead. I have these clips.

And you were you were watching the one coil head you're trying

to leave. Yes, I was dead.

And then the there was another one that went towards me.

I'm outside. I'm like, oh, there's one next

to me and I'm looking at it and shit.

And then something happened. I get killed.

Mark gets killed. I think what happened double

team game I. Think what happened was one of

you 2 blocked each other's view. I think I've blocked Brandon's

view. And so one of the coil heads

killed one of you, then it was just game over from there.

Now there is one enemy that that's brand new that you

haven't seen yet, the me and Mark have.

Oh boy, I've seen clips of this enemy and I want to explore it

further. Because don't.

Don't tell me anything about it, don't tell me how it works when

I see it, Don't, don't tell me. Just let me experience this

monster 'cause I, if I'm being honest, you kind of ruined it

with Ghost Go for me. It's telling me to get out of

the building the first time. Cuz you're like.

I was like, oh, look, there's a there's a weird child over

there. You're like, what are you

talking about? I'm like over there.

She disappeared. You're like, Ethan, get out of

the building. Go.

What? What?

What's wrong? Go now.

What do you mean I? Probably wouldn't have said

anything but like, let's see how this plays.

Out. I know that's what I was hoping

for just. Knew that it was gonna go really

badly as soon as. You never.

Yeah, actually, Yeah, we'll. Oh, I can't.

Wait, don't tell me. I want to.

I want to experience. OK, he's.

Just a friend. Yeah, yeah, I won't.

I won't tell him. You're spoiling stuff right now.

Shut up. Oh boy, we need to play.

But yeah, leave The company's a fun time.

Yeah, it's fun with friends. Scary as shit on your own.

Like it is. Definitely.

Oh no, I've tried to play. I've tried to play it alone and

I can't do more than one or two nights runs, whatever.

Probably days. Days.

Yeah, days it just at the time. It gets like it's.

Eerie. Yeah.

It's quiet. It's too quiet.

Yeah, alone and. Then the ambiance of being alone

just gets to you like. It's it's different being alone

with friends. Yeah, yes.

But being truly alone? Oh God.

Yeah, yeah, I that that's why What I'll do is I have a mod

that just has all loop bugs. Oh yeah, you do, And.

They're happy, you know, and they help me out and shit, but

playing it in VR by yourself, No, no shit.

OK, the only time I will play VR is when you're playing it with

me. Yeah, I.

I don't care if I'm with friends, I am not playing VR

alone. It's seeing the mask come after

you. Oh that's a beast.

That's fucked. I haven't seen the coil head

yet, that I don't. Wanna.

It's gonna fucking suck. I don't wanna it.

Because you're gonna have that reflex to turn away.

Yes. And you gotta find it.

Yeah, oh God, it like holy fuck, dude.

We definitely, definitely need the plane.

Yes, we do. Oh yes.

It's a lot of fun. It's just fucking scary shit.

I mean the shit you and me have done in the VR, especially me

have done in the VR. You know, one time, yeah, we're

doing some very questionable things, Marks just like this,

you know? Well, I, I think that's our time

for today, boys. Yeah, yeah.

Like that's like that's it. I'm good.

I'm good, OK. All right, not really a horror

person. He's a baby.

Yeah, yeah. Yep, I can't blame you.

I can't blame you, man. All right, well, thank you

everyone for listening to this episode.

We hope you enjoyed and it is now safe to unplug.

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